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Jul 19, 2010 20:59:52 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2010 21:04:24 GMT by grizz
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Jul 19, 2010 21:02:07 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2010 21:04:44 GMT by grizz
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Stu_B
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Jul 19, 2010 21:11:52 GMT
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3D model?
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Jul 19, 2010 21:26:53 GMT
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Google the title, leads to other good stuff too. Nope, I believe real. (Did not read or research this response) |
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RobinJI
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Jul 19, 2010 21:56:26 GMT
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Pretty certain that is indeed a CAD model, However a quick google relieved this which is real:  Edit: The black widow is definitely not real, both shocks are being pulled not pushed despite normal coilover set ups. |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2010 22:00:59 GMT by RobinJI
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MrSpeedy
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Edit: The black widow is definitely not real, both shocks are being pulled not pushed despite normal coilover set ups. I just spent 10minutes looking at the exact same thing, thinking that can't possibly work ! Still a very nice piece of automotive art tho |
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Last Edit: Jul 20, 2010 0:21:07 GMT by MrSpeedy
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30psi
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An amazing concept.
I guess the coilover thing theoretically could work as you'd be stretching a spring instead of compressing one
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1962 Ford Thunderbird 6.4L
1981 Datsun Bluebird SSS CA18DET
1981 Datsun Bluebird SSS SR20DE
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VIP
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Edit: The black widow is definitely not real, both shocks are being pulled not pushed despite normal coilover set ups. I just spent 10minutes looking at the exact same thing, thinking that can't possibly work ! Still a very nice piece of automotive art tho There also appear to be no drive to the rear wheel! |
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30psi
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There's a driveshaft there to drive the wheel. It's very thin and will snap at the hint of a bit of torque though lol
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Last Edit: Jul 20, 2010 9:01:18 GMT by 30psi
1962 Ford Thunderbird 6.4L
1981 Datsun Bluebird SSS CA18DET
1981 Datsun Bluebird SSS SR20DE
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That seat is definitely a sit on vibrator.
With that swingarm pivot so low the whole thing would actually collapse when the throttle is opened, art students should never pick motorcyles as subjects, the engineering is too integral.
The black and gold/bronze colour is the only thing i like about it.
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Jul 20, 2010 10:23:00 GMT
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the suspension could work. (see drawing below, red being swing arm green being frame) but why? the movement would be limited and the length of shoch completely pointless. not to mention the stresses on the pivot and the shock lever. basically it would snap in half like a soggy twig.  silly graphic artist, you know not what engimineering is. (note i'm ignoring the location of the oil tank and have left the posibility of an additional linkage to your own imagination) |
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Jul 20, 2010 13:57:05 GMT
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engineering aside it does look rather suarve
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Jul 20, 2010 16:15:25 GMT
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Had a good long look at this on another forum a few months ago and ended up having the same discussion about the rear suspension. It is a beautiful piece of CAD work though and would be amazing in the metal.
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Jul 20, 2010 17:59:11 GMT
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don't like it lol... love steampunk stuff... but thats a bit toooo wierd for me..
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luckygti
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Jul 20, 2010 18:18:45 GMT
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Looks a bit barmy, like something out of 'Wild Wild West' that Will Smith film? I love this kind of stuff though, I want to get back to my garage and play!!!
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93fxdl
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Jul 20, 2010 20:47:21 GMT
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re the comments about suspension, i believe the rear suspension on harley "softtails" uses suspension units in tension
ttfn glenn
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Jul 20, 2010 21:21:19 GMT
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...I want to get back to my garage and play!!! Only if the Missus allows for it. ;D |
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RobinJI
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Jul 20, 2010 22:24:06 GMT
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It'd be interested to see the suspension unit used on those softail Harleys. The use of a shock in tension rather than compression is nothing new, I don't know about automotive applications, but I know that a few mountain bike manufacturers have used this design across the years, most recently Scott on the 'Ransom' range. However in every case I've seen these have actually been fancy shocks, which although being placed under tension, actually still compressed the actual spring (or in the Scotts case, the air spring). A Scott Ransom using an air sprung shock in tension:  Anyway, My point is, yes, shocks can work in tension, but the shocks on this CAD drawing wouldn't, besides anything else, there's nothing actually securing the ends of the springs. (the front suspension's in tension too) Still looks awesome though, and a very impressive piece of visual design with a great concept, and the fact there's any debate over weather it's actually a CAD drawing or not is testament to the skill of the artist! |
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Last Edit: Jul 20, 2010 22:26:44 GMT by RobinJI
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luckygti
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Jul 20, 2010 22:24:55 GMT
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...I want to get back to my garage and play!!! Only if the Missus allows for it. ;D Ermm, yes Norm well spotted. It's OK now, the bloomin house is nearly finished! (Mind you, I think after waiting 2 hours for the AA the other day, she understands why I need 'Garage time'  ) |
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