jo0lz
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FucT FiAT
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Sept 19, 2010 23:36:11 GMT
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Does anyone know of anyone that can produce 'reverse' steel rims?
As in
cut out
flip around
weld back in
the centre section of a standard steel wheel......?
getting my hands on some 15 inch FiAT steels
don't want to get them banded
but do want some negative ET
Jo0Lz
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stealthstylz
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Sept 20, 2010 0:23:53 GMT
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Anybody with a welder and a grinder.
Matt
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Reversed SteeliesBenzBoy
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Sept 20, 2010 10:56:31 GMT
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I have a welder and a grinder, but I wouldn't like to try it. I don't trust myself to get the centres welded in true. It's possible with some care I'm sure, I suppose it depends on confidence.
I bought a pair from Dez, it might be worth asking him if he'll do them?
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ThePollitt
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Sept 20, 2010 11:05:08 GMT
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I have a welder and a grinder, but I wouldn't like to try it. I don't trust myself to get the centres welded in true. It's possible with some care I'm sure, I suppose it depends on confidence. I bought a pair from Dez, it might be worth asking him if he'll do them? Make up a triple-checked and rock solid jig and you should be fine. In theory. Chris |
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Sept 20, 2010 11:40:02 GMT
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Jack the car up and use an axle stand with a screwdriver taped to it to measure runout.. Weld slow so it doesn't get too hot and distort.. Simple  If you look at the construction of a normal steel, there's really very little holding it together. As long as you replicate that, plus some more welds for your own piece of mind, then Job's a good'n |
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stealthstylz
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Sept 20, 2010 12:06:27 GMT
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As Ben says just bolt it on the hub and spin. You'll probably get them closer to true than the originals iirc they're built to 3mm tolerances.
Matt
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Sept 20, 2010 12:09:23 GMT
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As Ben says just bolt it on the hub and spin. You'll probably get them closer to true than the originals iirc they're built to 3mm tolerances. Matt I was told 2mm, but since you're doing them yourself and taking time over it, it really isn't hard to get it to less than 1mm Obviously it is something that should only be done if you are happy with your welding abilities on such a safety critical part of the car |
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sowen
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Sept 20, 2010 18:23:42 GMT
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I've done it on a set of steels (not reversed the rims but the same thing really). The wheels I did had four lines of weld holding the centre to the rim. If the wheels are held together by puddle or spot welds it becomes a bit more difficult to split them without destroying either the rim or the centre. I had a spare upright and hub assembly that I could hold in my vice, and used a dti on a magnetic base on the vice to get them within 0.5mm runout. It didn't help that they were old 4x4 wheels which had previously seen some action. As bought:  Cut:  Welded & painted:   Fitted ;D :  I tacked the centres into the rims and sent the wheels off to be professionally TIG'd together. I would say that only someone with good welding experience and a decent powerful welder should attempt this, definately not to be done with a hobby welder and disposeable bottle CO2. |
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Sept 20, 2010 19:01:11 GMT
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i was wondering bout this today for the passat, for a chrome reversed wheel look
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jo0lz
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FucT FiAT
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Sept 21, 2010 0:06:33 GMT
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OK
As you all say it is possible to DIY
PLUS
I've a mate who is a professional welder
So if I tack them he could easily TIG them for me
I guess it is just a question of how the original Punto Steels are held together . . .
Cheers
Jo0Lz
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jo0lz
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FucT FiAT
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Sept 23, 2010 10:37:36 GMT
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Yeeeeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhh FLeaBLag WiN! 5T1koT5BMjTUK(dQQ~~_12.JPG) for less than a TeNNeR....... [+ juice to go collect them] No idea just how wide they are as YeT BUT they originally had 175/65/15 tyres fitted when on a Grande Punto The Uno originally runs on 145/75/13s Got some part worn 145/50/15s off the front of our smart car that should fit the new punto steelies Hoping for a skinny stretched rubber look that will fill the arch gaps better THEN maybe fit moon discs for a ' salt laker' look Ultimately will look to reverse the rims, then fit 175/50/15s which is what the back of a smart car uses BUT gotta fix the Uno's CLuTCH hydraulics first....  Jo0Lz |
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stealthstylz
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Sept 23, 2010 12:26:41 GMT
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I'd leave them as they are  Matt P.S. can you stop writing like that its a lot annoying. kthxbai. |
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purplevanman
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Sept 23, 2010 20:34:31 GMT
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just done a set for a m8s trials car, not too difficult with a grinder just noisy and burny Did mine with a milling machine, also trued up on the mill. If you are close give me a shout? |
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Dez
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Reversed SteeliesDez
@dez
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Sept 23, 2010 22:08:02 GMT
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as mentioned, i did the ones on the back of benzboys merc years ago, they used to like on the back of my stacklight. and my pontiac too (with wobble bolts). in fact i may actually have done them for that, i cant remember. i also did these ones for the back of my model A. before-  after-  (in fact you can see a stack of VW wheel centres there ready to be re-rimmed with jag outers to make wheels for a herbie replica) but as you can see my A ones also had all the slots and holes welded up and smoothed off. a lot of work just for two wheels, but sooo much easier to do with the centres out of the barrels! plus a few other sets ive done here and there. |
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jo0lz
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FucT FiAT
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Oct 10, 2010 22:32:51 GMT
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just done a set for a m8s trials car, not too difficult with a grinder just noisy and burny Did mine with a milling machine, also trued up on the mill. If you are close give me a shout? Well being up on Wirral I'm miles away BUT coming down for the BeachBash at Brean this month.... Jo0Lz |
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Dez
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Oct 11, 2010 10:20:50 GMT
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ive just discovered ive got to do a pair for the back of my latest build, so i will do a bit of a how-to when i do them.
they're the more difficult type too, spot welded not seamed.
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Oct 11, 2010 19:46:48 GMT
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in the world of "offroad suzuki 4x4's" reversed standard rims was any easy way to make the track wider. i made up a gig to make rewelding them back up easyer.. standard offset on the left.. flipped rim on the right..  i allso made up some 16" rims(standard sj ones are 15"s) using landrover outer rim,and sj centers.. weld the sj center in the landy rim and there you go.. an 16" with loads of offset to fit a suzuki.. |
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