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Welcome to RR!  That's a nice 9000, love the wheels. 450BHP must be loads of fun! |
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dazcapri
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as BenzBoy said welcome to RR and thats a really nice saab m8
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Mk3 Capri LS
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Thanks! The body work needs looking at now...rust starting to appear so the wings need replacing! Also changed the wing mirrors back to normal black ones (both were shagged anyway!) Perks of owning an older car...bits start falling off after time! Nothing modern I fancy though so I'll keep it a bit longer!
Yeah 450's great fun in 3rd and above 70 but its no where near as quick as it was below 80-90 with the last turbo (GT28RS), All the powers up top now (100+mph) so for the odd silly speed race its brutal but no good if your pottering around at 30/40 and floor it! Nothing happens unless your canning it in 2nd!
Are there many members from South Wales on here? Any meets coming up to be aware of?
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crazymonkey
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very nice saab, love the wheels never seen one with 450bhp, you must get some vids up  |
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whoever said dogs were man's best friend....obviously never heard of cable ties
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Mmmmm that is very nice and I do like the wheels. Would never put them and the car together in my head but it works well. My Dad has 2 9000s of this generation, a CSE LPT stage 1 with 230ishbhp which nearly became my daily, and an auto CSE HPT with all the leather toys and whistles. He's always wanted an Aero though. That must be some serious fun and a great sleeper! Welcome |
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Project Diary1975 Viva / 1988 T25 Camper / 1989 Mini / 1991 MX5 / 1992 Mini / 1994 Saab 9000 / 1997 Saab 9000 / 2008 Saab 9-5
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Mark
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Great work on the car, I've always liked the 9000 shape.
How's the gearbox getting on with 450bhp?
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Thanks, the wheels were originally on a Citroen C2! But he found 17" a bit too much and took them off after just 300 miles!!! Just got lucky with them really....even luckier when they just fitted! Gearbox... erm we'll just skip over that subject but its on its 3rd and counting  Definitely the cars weak point but touch wood its been fine since I swapped the turbo's to the bigger ones. What kills them is too much power in 1st & 2nd...no more flooring it off the lights! Hard to resist temptation though. I've had it mapped a bit differently now though so its in base boost in 1st & 2nd (1 bar) then 1.9 bar for the other gears. 2nd feels a bit slugish though so I'll get that raised a little. 9000 CSE LPT- My first Saab and my biggest regret was selling it! Loved it, by far the best car I've owned... but back then it was expensive to tune them so I sold it for a 3.0 v6 turbo 9-5 Griffin thinking I could tune that but there's not much you can do with them. |
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Impressive stuff, running the stock trionic? Are you mapping it yourself? As soon as i get some spare money i'll get my ass over to sweden to collect one or two of these bad boys for some future engine transplants Got to read the build thread when i have the time |
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Yep at te moment its the normal T5 apc and al the mapping is through T5 Suite. I tried the self mapping thing but just cant get my PC to communicate with the ECU!!! Not happening & really frustrating! so I've given up for now. I get the car mapped by 'Faero' on UKSaabs. He's very very good at it tbh, I think I'm on my 5th or 6th remap with him now! Top bloke. His 9k is running over 500 bhp and looks completely standard from the outside bar lowered & exhaust...proper sleeper and goes like stink!...would absolutely cane mine!
I bought a T7 modded ECU & T7 APC valve with all the wires good to go last month so will be getting it remapped again for this set up. I think it gives better boost control with the T7 APC valve so looking forward to that. Not driven a T7 car yet so it'll be interesting to see how they differ.
Just seen your sig....there's some nice fast ones in Finland mate!
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We built saabs in finland for a while, so there's plenty of saab nuts here. My grandfather has quite a collection of kerosene saabs I, on the other hand would love to shove a turbo engine in along with an opel box in something retro and rwd, as 9000's are cheap as chips in sweden and the tuning potential is insane for the money, especially as you can keep the stock ecu! If you really want to shovel money into the car, i've seen some ridiculously expensive reinforcement kits for the gearboxes |
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I'd love to get the maptun 6 speeder for it bit it's thousands...can't justify it, just way too much money! I looked a little into the 6 speeder off a calibra which should fit with some work. That might be on the cards after the engine side is finished. LSD is a must now though...I think it needs it!
I'll probably just keep re-fitting the normal boxes for now though, it currently has the 4.05 fitted (aero is a 3.61 but too long geared tbh) might go back to a 4.45 next time which was a lunatic ratio! Really really quick up to 80 but struggled a bit above 120. All money though....
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Mark
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Are there no diesel gearboxes that fit?
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That, sir, is mental in a fantastic way! 450bhp with front wheel drive! It's remarkable that you can keep the front tyres on it for long enough to get home from the tyre shop.
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Are there no diesel gearboxes that fit? Hi, not that I'm aware of mate. I've tried 3 of the direct bolt on boxes (cheap!!) so the 3.61 aero box (too long geared for me), 4.45 (mental ratio!!!) and it's current 4.05 (good all rounder) but I might go back to the 4.45 with LSD next and see how I get on! Should be pretty loopy! @ waveman1500- Thanks! It's not too bad since the last remap and fitting these wider grippy Toyo R1R's... 1st is still out the window and just spins, 2nd grips until around 5k then it lets go, 3rd and above are fine now but it does still give some decent torque steer and try to swap lanes W.O.T in 3rd around 80  I'll get some vids up tonight in work....curse word quality though  |
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75nut
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Think I might of spotted this one on the SaabUK site, love it, totally mental!! 450bhp, think you showed the rolling road print out on there is it is the same car, would love to see some vids
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90 Alfa 75 3.0 V6 Cloverleaf
79 MGB Roadster
88 Saab 900i Convertible
94 MK1 MX5 1.6
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Hi, yeah same car mate. I might knock a quick project thread up here later with some pics & vids. Will be nothing like the cars on here though  some seriously talented blokes on here! I'll do some bits on the car myself but engine & bodywork I keep well away from! Always end up with a small bag of nuts & bolts wondering where they should have gone! Can't believe I've never seen this forum before, it's brilliant!!!....should never have found it.... I want a MK1 escort now |
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I'd better do a small write up to update everything so you can see how everything's come together! I had a couple of Saabs before this one but fancied something different with a V8 so ended up getting a Merc E55 AMG, kept this for 11 months then had to sell it (no more £££££ job  ) so decided to go back to Saabs. I wanted something with a bit of tuning potential and with only a couple of grand to play with the obvious choice was a 9000 Aero! Cheap as chips to pick up these days and you can get these flying with very little outlay....more on that later, first the merc (previous owners pics..lost all mine!)   5.4 V8, 381 bhp & 429 lb/ft torque, my first properly fast car and first heavily modified car! I've had a couple of quick cars in the past like a Renault 19 16v Executive, Celica ST185 GT4a and Daihatsu Charade Gtti (1st car & awesome little thing!!!) and Saab 9-5 Griffin (lethal in the wet ) but this merc was something else! Anyway I wanted something with similar performance so found a Saab 9000 Aero with a Maptun Stage 3 tune...all the way up in Scotland for £1650. So roughly 290 bhp & 324 lb/ft. Maptun's Stage 3 described in more detail in the link below: www.maptun.se/tuningGuide.php?kategori=670&produkt=82&model=2323&listorder=37    On the drive home the car proved to be pretty fast and handled ok (knocked a good 1.5 hours off the previous month coming home from the Wales v Scotland game in a Vectra 2.2 tdi!!!) not as quick as the E55....well it was around 100 bhp less! But still had a decent mid range punch. One thing that kept happening was it would hit the fuel cut at 1.1 bar if I floored it or dropped down a gear and floored it, so that needed fixing as it was driving me crazy!!! These cars are more suited for fast overtaking/ accelerating than 0-60 etc. Still no slouch with the standard cars getting to 60 in around 6.5 secs, but 3rd gear and up is where they're best at. By the time I got the car home it sounded like a '60's beetle....manifold stud snapped...3 of 'em! So no Saab fun for a week or so as it was straight down to South Wales Saab Specialists the next morning for repair. Head off an all! Gutted! But while it was there I had a few things added to it including a ITG Maxogen Carbon Fibre Induction Kit from Abbott Racing: www.abbottracing.net/product.php?id_product=55Magnaflow Race Cat and was going to fit a FSE Power Boost Valve but got told not to as it would mess with the fueling, and another remap to go along with some bigger Green Giant injectors ready for the Stage 4 tune. I had the car back a week or so later and it felt a bit quicker with the remap and the PITA fuel cut issue was gone and it boosted to around 1.2 bar (I think??) with no problems. Loads of fun now, went pretty well off the line then the next day after getting the car back one of the tyres went pop so with hardly no cash left I had to stick some budgets on there! I should have really kept it at stage 3 for more than 24 hours but I'm a bit of a tit when it comes to wanting more power than I've already got! I will never learn So....next up after a quick brew....Stage 4 ;D |
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75nut
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Ace site aint it! Don't you just wish the talent of some of these guys "yeah i just knock up my own supercar from scaffold pole and a mower engine" lol, amazing! I recently got rid of my AMG too -  Beast! Get my Classic 900 Turbo back tomorrow from some tweaking, looking forward to it |
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79 MGB Roadster
88 Saab 900i Convertible
94 MK1 MX5 1.6
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Stage 4 ;D I kept the car like this for a couple of months and started collecting a few other bits ready for stage 4....what I really should have done was used the money for an LSD as this just transforms the cars handling but nope....more power again! It took a while to get all the bits together as stage 4 is a pretty expensive upgrade, looking back at it I'd have been better off going straight to stage 5 (350 bhp) with the upgrade TD04 19t or t28 turbo route but I wanted something a bit different so had to wait a few more pay days! Stage 4 in detail below: www.maptun.com/tuningGuide.php?kategori=670&produkt=83&model=2323&listorder=37&sess_id=7cqvkitg8ef6l5c5b37eve3mh4I just basically followed this guide and bought the following: Abbott Racing Intercooler (2nd hand) www.abbottracing.net/product.php?id_product=643 Bar Map Sensor: www.genuinesaab.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=486&osCsid=dc55f74043973040acb96c9a9682eb1bI already had the Forge actuator fitted so no worries there, but I wanted a little engine bling and bought a larger diameter delivery pipe: www.abbottracing.net/product.php?id_product=56Bit pointless at stage 4 tbh as the standard ones are fine at this level. Also bought & fitted were some bigger cams, usually used for stage 6 and above tunes these did hardly anything to increase performance, the engine just felt a little more eager to rev. I bought the profile 1 cams and they were a straight swap for the T5 cams. Bit gutted here but they work well on the current set up. www.abbottracing.net/product.php?id_product=81Hard to say out of the three was the best upgrade here as all three were fitted the same time but the car felt a fair bit quicker, nothing major bhp wise but it had a decent 35-40 lb/ft increase so not too bad! Clutch I kept standard for now and it held up well, no slippage whatsoever at this level and lasted a full year before going up another stage..... Car was going very well now, same pace as a E46 M3 but getting it to stop was another matter....scary!!!! So I fitted some EBC Turbo Grooved Discs and Yellow Stuff Pads all round and some braided hoses. Not a bad brake set up but I think the Yellow Stuff R pads would have been better! Then BANG! Gearbox No1 gone after some fun with a Volvo V70R I fancied a change anyway!
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That's a nice 9000, love the wheels. 450BHP must be loads of fun!
Definitely the cars weak point but touch wood its been fine since I swapped the turbo's to the bigger ones. What kills them is too much power in 1st & 2nd...no more flooring it off the lights! Hard to resist temptation though. I've had it mapped a bit differently now though so its in base boost in 1st & 2nd (1 bar) then 1.9 bar for the other gears. 2nd feels a bit slugish though so I'll get that raised a little.
some seriously talented blokes on here! I'll do some bits on the car myself but engine & bodywork I keep well away from! Always end up with a small bag of nuts & bolts wondering where they should have gone!
) so decided to go back to Saabs. I wanted something with a bit of tuning potential and with only a couple of grand to play with the obvious choice was a 9000 Aero! Cheap as chips to pick up these days and you can get these flying with very little outlay....more on that later, first the merc (previous owners pics..lost all mine!)