|
|
May 10, 2012 14:39:45 GMT
|
Hi all, There is an Army vehicles and equipment disposal auction held twice a year in Finland. Going there with a stash of money is, of course, dangerous business... I promised my wife not to buy a russian 6-wheel offroad truck (which were available by dozens), but promised nothing else 1982 Ford Transit flatbead diesel with a handy removable tarp + spaceframe (what do you call that?). 173k km (107k miles) on the clock, one owner from new Built in the UK. The service records are meticulously scribbled in the military style logbook. Chassis joints greased every 930 miles, engine oil + filter every 2800 miles and so on... I'll be using this when we move house during the coming months. Next year it turns 30 years old which is the legal age for a tax exempt historical vehicle (classic car society inspection and approval required). At this writing, the van still resides in the army premises, I'm supposed to pick it up on monday. I noticed that there is a fuel leak in the bottom of the transfer pump / injection pump area when fuel is fed using the hand pump in the filter housing. I guess it needs to be fixed before attempting to drive it. Does anybody have more data about the York diesel and Bosch VE4/10 pump? Which locations are most likely to fail and what to take with me when rescuing the vehicle?
|
|
Last Edit: Sept 15, 2012 16:27:34 GMT by hezekiel
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
robb
Part of things
Posts: 42
|
|
May 10, 2012 16:04:44 GMT
|
Ooh a Transit, Good work! I can't help you out on that one though, although i shall be bookmarking..
|
|
|
|
rodney
Posted a lot
https://www.facebook.com/RD-vehicle-transport-and-recovery-services-525622614268010/
Posts: 1,677
|
|
May 10, 2012 16:40:02 GMT
|
if its a leaky pump but it runs ok then itll drive fine like it bar the leak,.
|
|
facebook: rodney dean / rd transport
|
|
|
|
May 10, 2012 22:54:56 GMT
|
Is that a T25 hidden in the back?
|
|
88 325is Coupé
|
|
|
|
|
Yes, that's a high roof Syncro ambulance with the 1900cc wbx engine. There was also a Caravelle Syncro 16" 2.1 bus auctioned, both were sold to Germany. It is said that almost half of the Syncro 16" production originally came to Finland and now they are slowly going back to Central Europe...
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
May 11, 2012 19:41:21 GMT
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 15, 2012 11:51:13 GMT
|
Towed the truck to my house yesterday. The good news is that after charging the batteries overnight, the engine starts and runs. Not very well, though, there is at least one fuel leak from the injection pump so there must be air in the system. I will be picking up a Bosch seal kit later today. Bad news: There is no drive from the engine to the rear wheels in any gear Must be the pressure plate or something with the selector linkage inside the gearbox. We'll see...
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
May 15, 2012 20:04:07 GMT
|
Have you got any pictures of the pump? I have plenty of experience with later Bosch pumps on Transits. The drive issue is almost certainly athe clutch centre plate
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I found an excellent page about rebuilding the pump. Got myself a genuine Bosch gasket kit from the local diesel workshop for £12. Think I'll have a go once I get the gearbox issue solved. Which brings us to the subject: The box is faulty. I took it out yesterday evening and here's how it seems to have happened: The 3rd-4th selector fork was broken, and that has caused two gears to be engaged simultaneously. This has overloaded the input gear (or whatever it is called which drives the layshaft) and snapped all the teeth. Overview, the input shaft is to the left Box internals. The torn gear is the leftmost, which drives the layshaft and is needed with all gears but 4th. Selector assembly, one fork snapped
|
|
Last Edit: May 20, 2012 15:57:51 GMT by hezekiel
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
May 16, 2012 23:22:04 GMT
|
got the box from a 2.0 petrol if it helps, could be expensive to ship it (could remove bellhouseing to save wieght).
|
|
theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
|
|
|
|
|
May 17, 2012 12:28:29 GMT
|
Thanks cortinacentre! But you're right, the shipping costs might be dreadful indeed. By luck I managed to find a box today. There is a breaker not 20 miles from me which I was previously unaware of. He had 3 boxes of the same type and the good fellow let me open the side covers to check them out. I picked the best one and the side cover with intact selector forks from another box. Hope it stops raining tomorrow so I can put the new box in!
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
May 20, 2012 15:50:00 GMT
|
Gearbox sorted! Refitting it took something like 4 hours, but at least this is my first car/van/truck which doesn't need to be raised from the ground in order to swap the box OK, the next most important thing is to address the fuel leak and poor engine running. So, I guess it's out with the injection pump. The pump roughly cleaned from the outside. It has been black but there is very little paint left. The laptop is there to check for instructions from the net if necessary Some parts. They will be going into an ultrasonic cleaner which works very nicely for complex shaped metal parts. Fabricating an adapter to fit a dial gauge to the piston opening for timing the pump. I guess they are available in eBay for £5 but I felt like making one myself now. Ready! The set screw is maybe a bit too long but that's the only one I could found atm. Next steps will be assembling and fitting the pump.
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
orangecords
Part of things
yawner extraordinaire
Posts: 892
|
|
May 20, 2012 16:03:47 GMT
|
1982 Ford Transit flatbead diesel with a handy removable tarp + spaceframe (what do you call that?). tilt body ;D dunno why its called that coz they generally don't tilt but thats what they're called.......
|
|
I then wanted to start cleaning the interior as it stinks of wood (the material not the smell of a boner) best quote ever!
|
|
|
|
May 25, 2012 12:33:25 GMT
|
Ok, the pump was overhauled and installed back. The timing gadget was very handy, aligning it according to the factory marks would have resulted in something else than the recommended advance. While at it, I threw a new cambelt in also. This is a freewheeling engine, but better safe than sorry. I even managed to get the engine running (very roughly, though). The pump still leaks diesel, and I traced the leak to the accelerator lever shaft that goes through the pump cover. Later Bosch VE pumps have a bushing here but this one is just a hole in the alloy cover and there is feed pump pressure directly behind it. Luckily the whole pump doesn't need to be removed to fix this. Think I'll bore the hole oversized and make a brass bushing there. Now it's time to present the Saab cabrio to a potential new owner
|
|
Last Edit: May 25, 2012 12:34:11 GMT by hezekiel
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
jamesv
Part of things
Posts: 207
|
|
May 25, 2012 16:09:44 GMT
|
tilt body ;D dunno why its called that coz they generally don't tilt but thats what they're called....... A tilt is the canvas itself, same as on Landies, not as in a tipper, I can understand the confusion though!
|
|
James, Mk1 Golf 16v ITB'd, RS's, TT interior - in bits Affalterbach tweaked CLK - commuter mobile And a couple of GSXR's
|
|
|
|
May 26, 2012 13:50:55 GMT
|
Woohoo, the Saab was sold yesterday and the Transit moves on its own! There was a significant free play about the throttle lever shaft on the pump and fuel seeped from there. I removed the shaft from the pump cover, opened the bore from 10 to 12mm, turned a brass sleeve and pressed it there. Now it seems to hold better. It *can* be made to leak with the hand operated fuel bleed pump, but it holds under normal operation. Too bad the engine seems to run on 3 cylinders only. When I loosen up the injector feed pipes, cylinder #4 makes no difference in running. The only cheap and easy to fix problem that I can think of, is too narrow valve gap. Don't want to think about burnt valves, bad piston/rings etc Also the sound of the engine is very soft, almost like a petrol engine. Might be worth advancing the injection, but might as well be a sign of generally poor compression...
|
|
Last Edit: Jun 7, 2012 19:01:19 GMT by hezekiel
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
May 26, 2012 20:33:28 GMT
|
If it sounds soft then its well retarded on the ignition timing, as you have set this with a DTI, it could be the injector pressures are very low - or you have something other than diesel in the tank?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Since I suspected there was something wrong with cylinder #4, I swapped injectors #3 and #4 across. Made no difference. Then I popped the valve cover to check the clearances. A bit on the wide side but nothing to worry about. Adjusted them all to .35mm anyhow. My thoughts regarding the future of the truck were getting rather grim at the moment, but I tried advancing the injection pump just for the heck of it... Result! Now it runs without shaking (relatively speaking) and clatters on like a Transit should. I must have been adjusting the injection timing wrong the first time Don't know how advancing cured the one bad cylinder, but it doesn't matter much now. I took a very short 100 meter test drive (since the vehicle has no plates ATM) and it seems to drive OK at least in 1st, 2nd and reverse. Next: Bleed the brakes, address oil leak issue at the engine front region and differential cover, grease the chassis, change engine oil + filter, fuel filter etc.
|
|
Last Edit: May 28, 2012 17:40:30 GMT by hezekiel
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
|
A small update. I took the diff cover off to seal it. It was also good to check how the differential looked. It was a 4.63:1 open diff and seemed OK. I put some mastic on the sealing surfaces and later put in some oil. Actually I had to stop after 2 litres, since I ran out of hypoid oil, but it should be enough. Engine oil and filter were also changed without much drama. I managed to buy a set of 4 van tyres (185R14C) which were in near new condition (albeit chinese) for 20€. Some of the tyres that came with the truck looked a little dangerous and dated well from the 90's. The transit sits now on 4 wheels only, I sand blasted and painted these 3 first. Hope to have the whole set treated soon, should look a fair bit smarter after that.
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|
|
Aug 17, 2012 10:35:16 GMT
|
Over 2 months since last update? Time certainly flies... Since I have been suspecting the engine is already past its prime, I took the opportunity to buy a cheap spare parts vehicle. 1983 SWB van with a healthy 2.4 York engine and (drum roll please...) Laycock overdrive gearbox! The van is in surprisingly good nick but it had run out of MOT and the owner didn't have any use for a van anymore. I drove it some 50 miles back home on temporary license plates and it ran very well. The van came with loads of spares: Two sets of tyres with good thread, two newish batteries, an intact windshield, a spare injection pump and injectors, two functioning window regulators, driving lamps, a BNIB set of Motorcraft kingpins and bushings and so on and so forth. I'll try to salvage all the necessary trim parts and of course the engine + gearbox.
|
|
Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
|
|
|