lae
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Jul 19, 2012 14:47:00 GMT
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The Dolly has the 'powerful' 602cc engine, doesn't it? Make a lightweight chassis, fit the running gear, put a bucket seat on it = free track day car? I bet with an aerodynamic body you could reach a pretty good top speed, eventually.
edit - yeah, 35 horsepower. If you could get the weight down to 300-400kg, the performance would be reasonable. They weigh 550ish with a standard chassis, bodywork, glass etc - what do people reckon?
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2012 14:52:20 GMT by lae
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Mk1 Focus blandmobile
Formerly:
1969 MG Midget
1972 Avenger GT
1981 Datsun Cherry
1989 Corolla
1979 Mercedes W123 200D
1995 Ford Falcon
1996 Ford Telstar (bet you had to google that one)
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Jul 19, 2012 15:14:28 GMT
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rod it! one of my all time favourite renderings fits in beautifully here ;D  Cool car and only saw this yesterday on FB I had a 2CV as first car awesome fun,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, was going to put an engine in the back aswell as this idea was featured in magazine over 18 years ago. |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2012 15:16:32 GMT by mk1piman
Current carsTriumph mk1 2.5 pi autoTriumph mk1 2000 modTriumph mk1 2.5 pi 1969 mk1 pi estate  |
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Jul 19, 2012 15:55:46 GMT
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The Dolly has the 'powerful' 602cc engine, doesn't it? Make a lightweight chassis, fit the running gear, put a bucket seat on it = free track day car? I bet with an aerodynamic body you could reach a pretty good top speed, eventually. edit - yeah, 35 horsepower. If you could get the weight down to 300-400kg, the performance would be reasonable. They weigh 550ish with a standard chassis, bodywork, glass etc - what do people reckon? Not sure how much our 29hp 2CV racecar weighed, but it was stripped, de-glassed, lowered. Vmax was pretty much 71mph with a long run-up. |
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carmad
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Jul 19, 2012 16:50:44 GMT
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rod it! one of my all time favourite renderings fits in beautifully here ;D Ohhh do that Dez |
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Jul 19, 2012 18:52:16 GMT
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Ok, as promised more photos! But first, thanks for all the advice/opinions/ideas. I'm still on the fence, I'd love to do something with all the metal thats ended up in my garage, so we'll see. Most will probably say scrap it now after this next proper set of photos. I managed to split the body from the chassis. There was only 1 bolt out of like 20 that wouldn't budge, thats pretty good going if you ask me. (nightmares of mini rear subframe etc.. ) So, it's pretty much confirmed now, the front of the chassis properly gave way, it was bad, and then the previous owners "manhandled" it into that lockup, it must have collapsed at this point, no steering, and such damage to it and the front of the body. I'll let the pictures do the talking. Pile of bits building up:  Let's start with the chassis, this is what's left at the front:  Look at the angle it's at compared to the under-body bit:  And here's what it's generally like at the back, the towing eye came off in my hand:  And this shows how the front of the chasis is actually on the deck now, suspension working well!  Now for the situation at the front of the body, bracket for the master cylinder coming away from the bulkhead, not a big deal really.  This is mess from inside:     HMMMMM...So, the floor panels are no longer connected to the a panels/bulkhead, but the body still seems to have most of it's shape even though it's fully unbolted and free now. After lifting it off the the chassis this might change though. How about some better quality grot photos to make up for the phonepics:       A quality battery tray repair:  a piece of wood... WOOD The doors:    Not really that bad. And the back of the car is actually pretty damn good surprisingly:  and this is the only non-original hole in the boot:  Finally, on a cheery note, check out the ICE:  |
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smellyferret
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Jul 19, 2012 19:02:36 GMT
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Woop! sounds like if you do anything to this it will improve it  On a serious note, looking at that, I'd seriously have no idea where to start! Do you buy a galvanised chassis and just see what bits you have that can be made serviceable? I'd certainly be on the lookout for scrapyard 2cv's that maybe have crash damage and just buy the whole thing to have some more less rusty parts lol! |
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richrolls
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Jul 19, 2012 19:07:48 GMT
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I turned one into a lawnmower...Well used the engine anyway. Note to self." Must transfer from VHS to Pc".
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carmad
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Jul 19, 2012 19:18:24 GMT
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We told you it was in a bad way
Hello is that the chassis shop I'll have one please
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hairymel
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Jul 19, 2012 19:48:19 GMT
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Dez - it only needs the bottom six inches patching up really  ps grumpy that you have posted the hamb 2cv. I saw your thread and thought I would look clever and link to it, you beat me to it ;D |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2012 19:57:26 GMT by hairymel
whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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Jul 19, 2012 19:56:58 GMT
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Yes.
The chassis can wait for now!
I guess the idea is crack on, see what happens, it can only really get better (it will of course get much worse).
hah sorry hairymel, it is amazing though isn't it?
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hairymel
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Jul 19, 2012 20:03:20 GMT
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some of the car is not to my taste, but its build thread just made me go WOW it starts as a simple ladder chassis build and then it goes so far leftfield that it has to be built by a frenchman ;D can't wait to see the finished article - both his and yours |
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whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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bstardchild
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Jul 19, 2012 21:04:24 GMT
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LOL - gotta have a challange surely ;D |
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richrolls
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Jul 19, 2012 21:49:19 GMT
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As earlier, I have found the Hi8.Look at me down with the techc. I have taken a couple of pictures through the view finder..........   I would upload the footage but I haven't got the 'leads . |
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Jul 19, 2012 22:00:29 GMT
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.... that's inspiration for sure!
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Jul 19, 2012 22:06:50 GMT
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That going to be a lot of work but what better way to improve your welding and fabrication skills and it's the perfect project for some custom bodywork
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ChasR
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Jul 20, 2012 10:22:25 GMT
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Whilst that is beyond saving in the opinion of many in addition to scaring off many a restorer I would be tempted to make a custom chassis to it (assuming there are some workable bits off the original chassis!) and turn the car into something special. Whilst I would not underestimate the challenge ahead, it is also the ideal opportunity to get your metal skills sharpened up  . |
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Jul 20, 2012 11:22:59 GMT
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already built one.. will get round to posting a thread (2xengines) ive just emptied my mates garden.. weighed in three that were worse than that (saved what we could) got a rented yard full of snails to do up now! |
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Jul 20, 2012 11:27:11 GMT
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The Dolly has the 'powerful' 602cc engine, doesn't it? Make a lightweight chassis, fit the running gear, put a bucket seat on it = free track day car? I bet with an aerodynamic body you could reach a pretty good top speed, eventually. edit - yeah, 35 horsepower. If you could get the weight down to 300-400kg, the performance would be reasonable. They weigh 550ish with a standard chassis, bodywork, glass etc - what do people reckon? Not sure how much our 29hp 2CV racecar weighed, but it was stripped, de-glassed, lowered. Vmax was pretty much 71mph with a long run-up. thats pretty poor, all of mine (except the van) hit 80, my second hit 83! my current motor has the 602cc, its a bit heavier yet ive hit 81.. downside is it pinks like a biach now! |
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lae
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Jul 20, 2012 12:47:33 GMT
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Yeah I'm surprised at the low top speed, stock ones with the 602 engine could hit 70 on a good day. If the fastest human-powered vehicle can hit 80mph, I'm sure a 2CV engine could propel itself to well over a ton even with a homebrew body.
Worlds fastest 2CV would be an awesome project to take on.
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Currently:
Mk1 Focus blandmobile
Formerly:
1969 MG Midget
1972 Avenger GT
1981 Datsun Cherry
1989 Corolla
1979 Mercedes W123 200D
1995 Ford Falcon
1996 Ford Telstar (bet you had to google that one)
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Jul 20, 2012 12:56:39 GMT
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