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the best news is the coloured stationery is going too and the new certificates will be laser printed on a4 with the pass certificate on one hals and the advisory notes on the other so all the dodgy traders will have to actually prepare a car for sale rather than scrape through a test and bin the advisories . I like that idea , Although anyone who knows how to buy a car, Knows that the mot certificate states weather an advisrory sheet was issued or not. So as if pulling it off the back and leaving that staple hole wasnt clue enough, A quick read of the green bit lets ya know.
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froggy
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streched tyres will most likely get a fail too
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i'm surprised airbag light is not a fail! I know ABS is, but afaik airbag still isn't.
Also surprised things like reversing lights and rear wipers still don't have to work.
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stealthstylz
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It's all down to testers discretion so some grey area bits could fail at one garage but pass at another.
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froggy
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Apr 10, 2011 10:16:17 GMT
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It's all down to testers discretion so some grey area bits could fail at one garage but pass at another. Matt in reality there will so much more subjective decisions most mods will receive an advisory until common items ie cut springs stretched tyres etc get a ruling from vosa .
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mart
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May 23, 2011 13:01:11 GMT
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I was an MOT Tester 25 yrs ago and most of these were in place then, interior lights a funny one though, most are up to the testers discretion
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bortaf
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May 23, 2011 17:59:33 GMT
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I was an MOT Tester 25 yrs ago and most of these were in place then, interior lights a funny one though, most are up to the testers discretion interior lights? you meen the door open warning lights? 2 differant things As far as i can see they are all good additions to the test, at least if my local tester does all those i'll get more than 15 mins work out of him! less time to chat though while we wait for the computor to say we've finished ;D
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backzilla
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May 23, 2011 18:30:33 GMT
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My yank has amber side lights from when it was bought in. my mot guy lets it through but always says " you've changed them after you have left here" some others say on the yank scene that its ok anyway. my seat backs don't lock in and don't as standard where will i stand on that one.
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RobinJI
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May 23, 2011 19:13:47 GMT
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More things left up to the testers discretion isn't cool as far as I'm concerned. There's a lot of MOT testers out there that I cringe at the idea of handing my keys over to, let alone letting them have any say in what's safe and what's not, at least if it's in black and white you know if you're going to pass or not, with these amendments you'll never know which side of the bed the tester got out of.
I can see my MX-5 getting failed for it's ride height, and I'll need to do the ball joint boots. Nothing other than that's an issue for me, but some of them seem somewhat pointless, like the seat movement and the door open warning light.
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May 23, 2011 20:30:05 GMT
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My yank has amber side lights from when it was bought in. my mot guy lets it through but always says " you've changed them after you have left here" some others say on the yank scene that its ok anyway. my seat backs don't lock in and don't as standard where will I stand on that one. ambersidelights are illegal unless there's some age cutoff. you can however have amber running lights (disco 3) but need mainly white/yellow sidelights too (we're talking about the fronts?). the seats should pass as it's an original design feature. early 70's 911's had the seats secured with a rubber ball strap, or something equally poor.
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kenb
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May 23, 2011 23:20:13 GMT
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* Towbar electrics to be checked visually and, if a 13 pin euro socket, tested electrically Heard this from my MOT tester the other week, and being the way I am 2 things sprung to mind instantly. 2: what if your towbar is wired correctly for your trailer, but not matching the recommended wiring plan for the socket? Why does it fail then? I don't think there is a law about how your towbar socket MUST be wired (but I could be wrong on that one!) No but there has been British Standard on wiring 7 pin trailers for the last 40 odd years which is still current. We now have euro standard 13pin wiring for modern cars. The electrical test only applies to the 13 pin standard. 7 pin is a visual check. If you cant wire your trailer to suit the car then there is no hope is there really.
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Last Edit: May 23, 2011 23:25:43 GMT by kenb
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I still remember a dodgy MOT station trying to fail my car on a million different things... including a dead reverse bulb
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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so what about cars with fixed seats from factory then?? bondbug etc
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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so what about cars with fixed seats from factory then?? bondbug etc If there's no adjustment it cant be tested and therefore can't fail. Pretty simple concept.
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bortaf
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May 25, 2011 12:19:34 GMT
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Heard this from my MOT tester the other week, and being the way I am 2 things sprung to mind instantly. 2: what if your towbar is wired correctly for your trailer, but not matching the recommended wiring plan for the socket? Why does it fail then? I don't think there is a law about how your towbar socket MUST be wired (but I could be wrong on that one!) No but there has been British Standard on wiring 7 pin trailers for the last 40 odd years which is still current. We now have euro standard 13pin wiring for modern cars. The electrical test only applies to the 13 pin standard. 7 pin is a visual check. If you cant wire your trailer to suit the car then there is no hope is there really. was chatting to me MOT man yesterday, there's a £49 tester for the towbar plug already out and waiting, so it's a very simple test but as he said some TBs he cant test cos the plug is hidden behing a cover and if the owner presents the car with the cover on he cant touch it. Same with the wiring, as he said to me "your lucida has full underfloor coverings that i can't remove how the fook can i test what's behind all that lot? ", you can't even see the fuel lines! But that's allways been the way i guess, the reason rear wipers aint tested is cos some cars don't have em and it's seen as an unfair advantage to cars without them? pretty silly when "some" cars have ABS and some don.t yet it's in the test but like he says what the fook do the Vosa rule makers know about it they just push pens all day long
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May 25, 2011 13:14:13 GMT
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The difference with ABS is that it's possible (though very unlikely) for a fault to do nasty things - like, think a wheel's locked when it hasn't and disable braking. A faulty rear wiper, on the other hand, just means you have to use your door mirrors or get out and wipe the rear screen now & then edited to add: he's got a good point about the VOSA rule makers tough
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All seems sensible to me. Infact all things I would have already assumed were checked (with the exception of the interior light thing)
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insig
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May 28, 2011 22:12:46 GMT
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* Door open warning lights (where fitted) to fail if not working * Speedometer clearly not working, glass or dial missing or damaged to the point reading is impaired to be a fail * Speedometer illumination not working to be a fail These only affect class 5 vehicles: Class 5 Private passenger vehicles, ambulances, motor caravans and dual purpose vehicles with 13 or more passenger seats. Cars are usually class 4: Class 4 Cars, including 3 wheeled vehicles more than 450kg unladen weight, Taxis, Minibuses and Ambulances up to 12 passenger seats, Goods Vehicles not exceeding 3000kg Design Gross Weight (DGW), Motor Caravans and Dual Purpose Vehicles. * ALL seats (including rear) to be checked for security The seat security check has been part of the test for some time, it was introduced in the 2010 testers manual.
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May 28, 2011 22:29:45 GMT
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Cuts springs and banded steels I think are gonna get hit by this one. Was about to say that, i wouldnt want cut springs anyway, but banded steels i don't want to go. Hopefully its just another thing they claim they'll do then it never happens.
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the best news is the coloured stationery is going too and the new certificates will be laser printed on a4 with the pass certificate on one hals and the advisory notes on the other so all the dodgy traders will have to actually prepare a car for sale rather than scrape through a test and bin the advisories . the new items will add some time to the test so fees will go up But if you check online it lists the previous fails and advisories anyway,plus if it passes it passes,no matter how many advisories? Most traders will sort out issues like borderline tyres etc as it`s not worth the hassle of comebacks otherwise. Hopefully this will get some of those hideous ratted cars off the road as frankly they look ridiculous with springs cut in half etc,fair enough done properly on coilovers but cutting springs IMO is dangerous. And yes,I speak from personal experience on that front with a few nasty experiences.
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