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Sept 4, 2012 11:39:28 GMT
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it looks like you had a good trip - I couldnt make it to the mk1 show, I was gutted I didn't get to meet you!
I like the bagged idea I would be interested to see how smooth the ride is on a mk1
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1966 Ford Cortina GT 2018 Ford Fiesta ST
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Sept 4, 2012 12:33:02 GMT
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Yeah, why not? I've never seen a Cortina with it, and I love the way the wheels would be tucked deep under the arch I've seen the "Air-over-leaf" setup that might work well for the rear. The thing is, I could really drop the car to the ground at the front because I'd only have to fabricate (or have someone do) custom 'trailing arms' that would have an angle instead of being straight, and do the same with the track rods. The rare is more involved because leaves mean compromise... I don't mind if it has a bit of rake when dropped IIRC back in the 80's most escorts/Cortinas used to appear to have rear rake i cant see many decent rims going up in the arches the rear tubs are proper narrow at the top ...unless you sport skinny rims etc
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Clement
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Sept 4, 2012 15:02:51 GMT
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I'm keeping the stock rims, everything will remain stock including engine and patina! Frankly I find the lines perfect, I just want it lower Just have to save money now, and find a good system to put on the car. edit : jim : yeah it would have been great to see you, the show was very cool and the people were just incredibly nice ! Old folks are really enthusiastic about seeing young dudes take on the hobby. The goal is to have the smoothest ride possible, I can't go for performance anyway.
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Last Edit: Sept 4, 2012 15:04:20 GMT by Clement
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Clement
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Oct 15, 2012 18:12:17 GMT
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Hi folks! I've asked the question about airride in the Technical section, I hope: 1/ that I'll get many answers 2/ that I don't sound too much like a airride virgin (which I am). I've researched a little but nothing could be as helpful as, let's say, a modified retro cars' forum.
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Clement
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Hi all! First, I ditched the airride plans. As much as I'd love to have the car on bags, I'm not too keen on drilling into chassis rails and the whole setup wasn't going to be perfect. Anyway, there are plenty of lows Tinas out there, like this one: Bags wouldn't get the car much lower than that, and I guess the ride would always be compromised. Instead, I'd be going for these: GAZ coilovers for the front and adjustable dampers for the back, associated with single decambered leaves like that (cheers SteveL!). That'd be low, whilst retaining some comfort. An important thing is that I'm looking for a bolt-on jobbie here, I don't have the skills, tools and facilities involved with fabrication just yet. I guess those plans would be happening this spring or this summer. I was really wanting to keep the standard wheels to have the wheels really tucked into the arches but I just stumbled upon these: www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_auto/426661431.htm?ca=3_sThat's cheap! Very nice rims, I've never seen another Cortina with them, they were on a Capri so I hope they'll fit the Cortina without too much hassle. That's them on a Capri: The problem on the Cortina is the huge negative offset (ET-40 on a 4.5" rim...), so these might need spacers to fit, which would mean extended lugs and perhaps specific nuts because the ones for the steel rims are tapered. I'm sure I'm sounding whiny compared to the major fabrication threads here but this is all new to me! Also, I'll soon be tackling the small body imperfections (read: the mess this car is). Rust bubbles on the right-hand side doors, scratched paint, etc. I've found a retired bodyshop guy who's going to weld the lower rear quarter on the right-hand side as well, the club sells the replacement panels which should help a lot. Other than that the floors are getting straightened again (I hit a big rock underneath) by the same guy, then there'll be soundproofing, then there'll be a radio someday, too. Thanks for reading!
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unitybonez
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That is a nice little 'tina you have, and its great that you use it the way its supposed to. Imalso real happy that you decided to lower it against your initial plans. Low is always better Now for a bit of adive.The coilovers are great, they really are, and for the style you are shootin for i think its the best option. Idont like the wheels you bought thou, you need something with at least some dish, or i think the stockers painted black with the dog dish caps would look hella better. As for the bags, the ride wouldnt be compromised at all actually, if anything it would ride amazing. The only draw back on bagging such a car is cost. The front strut bags cost something around 900 dollars for a quality product, then you have to add the management kit, which is ruffly between 1k for basics to 2k for top notch, and the rear bags. Hydraulics on the other hand could set you off just above 1k, and if you go rams and accumulators you could potentially have a ride better than bags. But then again, asi said already i think the coilovers are goin to be the best thing. You have a great attitude, and I'm sure it will eventually end up a super bad ass 'tina. While I'm here, check this one out, I'm sure you'll appreciate it, if anything for the quality of the work. www.losboulevardosmessageboard.com/showthread.php?3498-My-Cortina-build
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Clement
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Cheers for the link and the advice! I'd seen this car before I reckon, in the Black Steels thread, and I reaaaally loved it. I'm actually still painting my steelies black, I need a set of rims for the winter tyres and one for summer tyres, so I can choose whichever I want. I took some measurements and I'll need spacers I reckon, but not by much so I'm not too worried for the bearings. I have no idea how the wheels will look like on the car, but at this price, for something I've never seen before, I had to do it anyway. I'm still dreaming about some Gotti split rims but that's a whole lot more expensive. Like these: I agree that dish looks perfect on a 'Tina, but less dish means going lower without catching the arches ;D By the way I'll be going from 4.5" to 6" wide wheels, but staying on 155 tyres, what's the name of the website that shows examples of stretch again?? Lastly, I couldn't find the info about the stereo: what kind of standard is it? DIN or else? I'm not too keen on removing the blanking plate because it's suffered enough in the past and I wouldn't want to ruin it completely. As for suspension, when I first thought about bags I was still driving quite slowly. Now, not so much... Having a tiny engine means breaking less and accelerating more, and it kind of gets into you! So coilovers are more suited.
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79cord
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This site? www.willtheyfit.com/Not really a fan of the Gotti idea, so '80's looking. The MilleMiglia are such a nicely late '60's - mid '70's style that is rarely seen since. Much more interesting. (Lamborghini Miura) After that though they do look like they could do with some extra 'fuss' in the centre or perhaps a slightly darker colour in the centre & recesses to exaggerate their shaping & dish. They do look very clean though. Ha ha. Just realised people might think you have put on your minilites on back to front. especially with all those exposed wheel weights! Love that idea.
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Clement
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I'm just waiting for the guy to send me his address so I can send the cheque They do look like reverse rims, if it puzzles people then I'm all for it! They must be pretty rare in Ford fitment as well, because the only other instance I've seen 'em is this yellow Capri. I couldn't find any info on them, the seller (only previous owbener of the wheels!) said he had them special-ordered in a shop back in the 70's... Perhaps it would be nice to paint them satin black, apart from the perimeter (the rim?) and the sides of the spokes, I'll look into that. I've checked out on WillTheyFit, those rims should be 1cm closer to the struts so I might no need spacers but I'll still need extended wheelstuds and flat-faced nuts. The website I was thinking about was actually a gallery of pictures of various tyre fitments, can't remember the name right now but it's not really important. edit : By the way, I forgot to say I'm driving the car to Gävle on Feb 23rd, that's only about a 4500km roundtrip over two weeks. Easy enough
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Will look great lowered with different wheels clement, are you coming over to the mk1 nationals this year? I should be there in mine, it will also be tatty but loved
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Clement
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Of course I will!! In May I'm driving to Brussels as well, I'll drive this car to the ground then dig it out and do it again.
Go for the 'Tatty but loved' trophy then, mine shouldn't be tatty enough to compete in this category anymore... hopefully ;D
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I agree it will look different ,And smart
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nice auld cortinas there to see . have a mk2 1600e in middle of restoreing
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Cheers guys! I've done a tad more research and I've found this: So not only are they almost period-correct, they were even mounted on almost-contemporary Cortinas! Lots of almost but that's fine by me drestos13 : please post some pictures!
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Feb 12, 2013 18:09:25 GMT
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Clement
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Feb 20, 2013 15:05:25 GMT
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unitybonez posted the exact same link just above, thanks anyway ;D Last week-end was gearbox-changing week-end, all went well except it took a whole lot of time (way too much). I had to swap the selector mechanisms because my car has a steering column shifter whereas the new 'box was for a floor shifter, I put in an all-new clutch (friction plate, pressure plate, the whole release bearing assembly), spigot bearing and speedo cable. All seems fine for the moment, it should blow up anytime soon. Pictures when I can
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Clement
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Feb 20, 2013 18:46:27 GMT
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Ta-da! Column gear shift cable linkage: Gearboxes: Different gear selectors: the one with the three identical 'forks' is the one from the column gearchange, the other one is for a floor shifter Selectors swapped and lockwire back in (copper wire actually, might be stupid but that's all I had) Clutch bellhousing cleaned, it was filthy. Oil everywhere, the clutch disk was black instead of grey! Gearbox ready to be put back in, that was Sunday night at 2am! Engine on its own, no gearbox/clutch/flywheel. The spigot bearing is there in the middle, had to use fire to get it out angrily :laugh: I'd have loved to have a lot more time to do this job, I really enjoyed it apart from Monday afternoon and evening because I was rushing through things and stressed out like crazy... edit : forgot to add, I've got the new rims!! They're in pretty good nick, one has had a repair in the past but it seems to be solid. Can't wait to have them on!
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Feb 21, 2013 10:49:14 GMT
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Wow lovely cortina there mate and I think it's going to look awesome when lowered and with the new wheels, I'd personally do them in silver myself Where abouts in France you from? My friends have a big chateau near villadieu (I think that's how you spell it) and I got over quite a lot in my mk5 estate
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Clement
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Feb 21, 2013 12:28:26 GMT
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I'm in Clermont-Ferrand, that's in the Auvergne region! Pretty nice roads there, coilovers should be put to good use ;D I'm guessing you're talking about Villedieu-les-Poêles in Normandy? That's really not close from my place but then that's almost on my way to Stratford for the Cortina Nationals in August Wheels might remain silver for the time being, I want to get used to them (and enjoy them!) first before I get involved in plans.
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unitybonez
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Feb 21, 2013 17:11:45 GMT
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.................... All seems fine for the moment, it should blow up anytime soon.
Pictures when I can Haha, so much for confidence ah? I know the exact feelin thou, when you takle jobs with which you aint familiar you always expect it to blow up LOL
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