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diesel appreciation threadBenzBoy
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Sept 14, 2006 14:02:37 GMT
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There was a Mk3 XR3 on eBay last week which had an Endura TD out of a focus in it.... I was quite tempted as that must have been pretty rapid.... seeing as our endura-equipped Focus is faster than the XR3i Mk4 I have... and weighs about twice as much.... Sorry for the slight retardedness of my question, but are the TDCi and Endura the same engine? Oh, and do for still keep up the parts interchangeability thing these days? e.g.: can you bolt a TDCi lump to a type 9 without too much hassle?
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2006 14:04:01 GMT by BenzBoy
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Sept 14, 2006 14:06:43 GMT
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I love turbo diesels, ever since owning an E36 BMW 325 TDS over six years ago. I brought it from a mate's dad who had it tweeked to approx 240bhp & nearly 400lbft, by means of a hybrid turbo, bigger intercooler and a re-map. Used to pull like a train, do 45mpg & smoke like Jeremy Clarkson ;D The only problem, which I found to my detriment was the fact that it was so easy to do big speeds without really realising it.... ooops I then had a HDi 206 which also went nicely but was strangely seemed only as frugal as the BM which had twice the power. My van is also a TD which I must admit is along way of from being even marginally 'sprightly' but it does seem to match the cruising performance of the 1.9 wasserboxer fitted to these vans yet go twice as far for the money This engine is really agricultural - the valves in the head are off to the side away from the main combustion chamber - like an old Flathead ;D
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2006 14:09:16 GMT by DerbyDan
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Sept 14, 2006 14:08:14 GMT
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yeah why do all diesels do between 45 and 50 mpg now matter how erratically you drive em?
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Sept 14, 2006 14:19:39 GMT
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A Peugeot 1.9 Diesel turbo lump could be on the cards, I'd imagine a 405 or 406 lump i'm not sure, as good as they say, i know its no GTI but shouldn't hand about.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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tigran
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diesel appreciation threadtigran
@tigran
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Sept 14, 2006 14:25:00 GMT
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There was a Mk3 XR3 on eBay last week which had an Endura TD out of a focus in it.... I was quite tempted as that must have been pretty rapid.... seeing as our endura-equipped Focus is faster than the XR3i Mk4 I have... and weighs about twice as much.... Sorry for the slight retardedness of my question, but are the TDCi and Endura the same engine? Oh, and do for still keep up the parts interchangeability thing these days? e.g.: can you bolt a TDCi lump to a type 9 without too much hassle? This is exactly what i was pondering earlier - if the MTX boxes have the same pattern as the MT/T9 boxes. Yeah endura and tdci are interchangeable names. Although the big daddy of the ford diseasel range is the PSA developed Duratorq/HDi engine.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Sept 14, 2006 14:51:49 GMT
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Sorry for the slight retardedness of my question, but are the TDCi and Endura the same engine? Yeah endura and tdci are interchangeable names. Although the big daddy of the ford diseasel range is the PSA developed Duratorq/HDi engine. Erm... no!?!?? TD Ci is the 'common rail' celeverclogs newer type... The 'endura' is the TD Di, which rattles like a tractor but will run on just about anything you put in it. Less refined, but more torquey. Ours is this old sort... with the 9tonnes of sound-deadening you get in a focus you'd never tell if you were sitting inside it. I average 55-60mpg in it and my 'lead-footed' lovely lady gets about 45mpg. Pretty good stuff. Oh and when I've towed big stuff with it you hardly notice it's there. In all honesty I can't see any reason why 'Johnny Average New Car Buyer' could possibly want a petrol engine any more.
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2006 14:52:18 GMT by arthurbrown
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Sept 14, 2006 15:01:13 GMT
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Sept 14, 2006 15:05:24 GMT
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stirling work!!!
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Sept 14, 2006 15:17:16 GMT
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thats the ticket. Must weigh next to nothing and pull like a train.
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diesel appreciation threadBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Sept 14, 2006 15:26:01 GMT
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I had the misfortune of driving a Mongdeo diesel estate (early one) for a week out in Portugal. I think it was a 1.8. Totally and utterly gutless. I managed to get it stuck on a steep incline - it would stall even in 1st gear so I had to ride the clutch all the way up! Admittedly it was stupidly steep, but the Rover 220 diseasel (bubble shape) I usually drove used to power up there no problem! Part of my journey to work used to be the old Arouca rally stage, with the most absurd amount of 180 degree bends per mile I've ever seen!
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ishan
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Sept 14, 2006 15:54:42 GMT
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A Peugeot 1.9 Diesel turbo lump could be on the cards, I'd imagine a 405 or 406 lump i'm not sure, as good as they say, i know its no GTI but shouldn't hand about. I'm running a 309 GTI with a 1.9 TD lump out of a 306. With a FMIC and a fiddle from DervDoctor, 125bhp is acheivable WITH 55-60MPG. Its pokey at the minute and keeps up with 205 1.6 GTi's
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Sept 14, 2006 16:00:49 GMT
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Cool thread on the Split Screen Van forum, just now. www.chocksaway.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=23027A guy called Graham Colledge installed a TDI engine out of a Bora into his Splitty. Only problem is the gear ratios of the beetle gearbox he is using is not really suited to the TDI engine, but apparently it runs like a dream....
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diesel appreciation threadBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Sept 14, 2006 16:05:06 GMT
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Hmm, yes gear ratios would be key in a diesel transplant due to the narrower power band.
I'd love to fit a retro with a modern oil burner - that VAG powered Trabby is great!
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Sept 14, 2006 16:10:18 GMT
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gotta love a good derv still my most favourite all out cruiser comfort car has to be the volvo 940TD.........ours had over 500k and still going on now
hehe nice little story..........driving a nissan navara 2.5TDi (bout 150bhp if you venture towards 4000rpm never really), coming back from norfolk off a rounderbout onto a duel carrigeway section I'm in the fast lane trotting along, chav'd up astra comes flying round the side gunning it up the left hand lane tyre squeeling bodykit flapping around......i put my foot down and send him backwards,
hit 70 and a cruise along, he comes flying past next rounderbout he crawls round it and the same happens again, he gave up that time ;D ;D ;D
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once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears!
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Sept 14, 2006 16:26:55 GMT
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My dads just about to go onto his 2nd D5 Volvo. Old one is a 165bhp 370nm engined one, new one will be the proper 195bhp 450nm one! Quicker than a T5 30-70 !
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Mike D
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diesel appreciation threadMike D
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Sept 14, 2006 16:28:14 GMT
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I'd love to shoehorn the VAG V10 twin turbo unit out the Touareg into something retro this is what superchips say: VW describes the Touareg V10 TDI’s 5.0-litre power plant as "the most powerful passenger car diesel engine ever built", but by reprogramming the engine management system, Superchips has made it even more potent. Maximum power is increased by 26 bhp to 356 bhp at 3,414 rpm and optimum torque by a massive 108 Nm, to 855 Nm at 2,776 rpm. Still greater gains lie at 2,851 rpm, where power is upped by 47 bhp and torque by a staggering 116 Nm.
855 Nm torque. That'd kick ass
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Sept 14, 2006 17:12:05 GMT
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i love them, my mum's had a series of renault diesels (two old-shape meganes and a new one) over the last ten years and they're just so effortless. The narrow powerband needs some attitude modification but only if you're used to driving rev-happy 16v petrols. I just like the way it pulls hard as soon as the turbo is on song, yet will never cripple you on economy.
Only bad one i had was a hired Tourneo, new shape 2.5TDDI - a fully laden run back from Newquay barely busted 30mpg which was disappointing, but it did feature the new unofficial Tourneo Speed Record of 101mph (GPS proven - the speedo read 115!) on the A42. I suspect some more 70mph cruising would have used less fuel.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Sept 14, 2006 17:34:51 GMT
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righty. the focus RS came with an MTX75 gearbox, so did the mondeo outside - these are zetec powered cars, which indeedy, do bolt to type 9's. as for 'sacre;idge' putting it into an escort, well, thats kind of half the point - ill have the silver one iwth the zetec and throttle bodies, but then i want something ratty and unusual for day to day - hence a deseasal id love to go to some ford shows with the anoraks in full force and have it chugging away ;D ;D
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Sept 14, 2006 17:37:37 GMT
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ratio's could come from a diff i spose - which is where the money lies, all the stupid low ratio's are used by the rally boys
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Sept 14, 2006 17:57:41 GMT
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ratio's could come from a diff i spose - which is where the money lies, all the stupid low ratio's are used by the rally boys I don't think you would necessarily need to drop the diff ratio you would just need to keep the ratios relatively close in the gearbox, possibly a transit box At some point when I get the rest of my projects out of the way I plan to put a a pug TD engine into a mk3/4/5 tina to use as a daily driver. I will probably use a 406 1.9TD engine to start with while I carry out the fabrication work and then when its all running well put a 110bhp HDI engine in. I am a big fan of those engines after doing over 2000 mile in a week round the highlands of scotland and returning an average of 50mpg. With my old 406 1.9TD I used to average between 30 to 35MPG
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