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Post by Mystery Machine on Mar 29, 2012 12:06:26 GMT
Gearbox now sorted and I am looking forward to getting it. It's a 4 speed ZF box (ZF 4HP22) which comes in various guises. There are three basic options for getting a 4HP22 onto a 2WD Rover V8 set-up:
1) Range Rover box which bolts straight up to the engine but needs the transfer box removing and the tail section from a 2WD box grafting on which can be a bit tricky
2) Jag/BMW box which has the 2WD output but then needs the Range Rover bellhousing, torque converter, flex plate etc...
^^ Both of which leads you to buying pretty much two 4HP22's and chopping/changing parts. ^^
3) Sherpa/LDV V8 from an ambulance. Straight fit to the engine (V8 bellhousing) and 2WD output....the best solution....BUT rare!
I've managed to source an LDV box that was removed from a V8 ambulance only yesterday. Very, VERY lucky! A good price too compared to what they normally fetch. It comes complete with the torque converter, flexplate, spacers, shift cable, kickdown cable....everything needed to get it to fit. The only issues will be size. Until I've got it, I won't know if I need to modify (shorten) the prop, or if I'll need to widen the transmission tunnel. None of it will be drastic or too difficult, but I am hoping I'll be able to get it all in just in time to drive the Land Rover to Wheels Day next Friday!
I do like a challenge.
Some more bits that were done to the car at the weekend:
I had an ammo crate which I'd got on a house clearance a few years back (the same house clearance that got the sofas and other bits for the snug) and it seemed to fit in nicely on the rear bed. I will make some hidden fixings so it can be bolted down onto the rear deck, but in the meantime I used a strap to hold it in place.
There were no logical fixing points, so some tie-down points were found in the 'BiAS Drawer of Wonder' and promptly fixed to the rear bed. The strap was a brand new black strap that looked too clean and out of place, so we employed the services of a light dusting of red oxide primer, followed by rubbing it through the Area 52 rusty 'detailing chain'....then some manhandling with "DIRTY GLOVE" (said in a husky Bob Hoskins voice) and finally trampled on the floor for a few minutes. Suddenly it looked 'right'.
Increasing storage space even further, a small ammo box was bolted to the floor next to the drivers seat. This fitted to well and has become known as the handbag.
I will, when time permits, make it quick release so that it can be used, quite literally, as a 'manbag' handbag.
Another bit of cosmetic work carried out was to remove the shiny chrome plastic B&M shifter surround and paint it satin black. it was a bit too blingy for me, so a rub down and dose of black made it look better. I kept the shifter and knob chrome because I think they work quite well. Even more so now the surround is black
The shifter cable was bright red and now that the surround was black, it really stood out in the interior. Rich & I both had the same idea for how to change that....and he quickly found a piece of fabric braided hose which was slit down its length and slid over the shifter cable. The transmission tunnel was cut in a way that it was already chafing through the shifter cable, so with the new cable cover on, I opened the hole up quite a bit and tried to make it look a bit neater at the same time, removing some of the rough cut corners into a more sympathetic shape.
Being truly sad, I even sat and painted in the B&M logo with some NATO green just to make it stand out a tiny bit. In the flesh it's very subtle but it's one of those touches I just like:
Finally, I put some small washers onto the selector shaft so that the knob screwed on and sat with the logo straight. With it screwed on previously it sat 90 degrees further round and this annoyed me a bit, so packing the base with washers allowed me to have it sat 'correctly'.
The only trouble was you could clearly see the washers, so I found this bearing plate 'thing' which fitted perfectly over the washers disguising/hiding them and making a bit of a hidden feature. I like it....and because it spins around the bottom of the knob, it's brilliant for fiddling with in traffic. Sad heh? (cue jokes about fiddling with my knob!)
With all those bits in place I was much happier with the appearance of the shifter. I will make a shroud when I can to sit around the base between the shifter and the transmission tunnel, but even now it's a bit visual improvement.
Here is a (fuzzy) close-up shot of the set-up before I started tinkering with it to show the difference (chrome shifter surround, red shifter cable, square cut transmission tunnel over cable, shift knob sat at the wrong angle....
As Bizzle would say, "The devil is in the detail".
1) Range Rover box which bolts straight up to the engine but needs the transfer box removing and the tail section from a 2WD box grafting on which can be a bit tricky
2) Jag/BMW box which has the 2WD output but then needs the Range Rover bellhousing, torque converter, flex plate etc...
^^ Both of which leads you to buying pretty much two 4HP22's and chopping/changing parts. ^^
3) Sherpa/LDV V8 from an ambulance. Straight fit to the engine (V8 bellhousing) and 2WD output....the best solution....BUT rare!
I've managed to source an LDV box that was removed from a V8 ambulance only yesterday. Very, VERY lucky! A good price too compared to what they normally fetch. It comes complete with the torque converter, flexplate, spacers, shift cable, kickdown cable....everything needed to get it to fit. The only issues will be size. Until I've got it, I won't know if I need to modify (shorten) the prop, or if I'll need to widen the transmission tunnel. None of it will be drastic or too difficult, but I am hoping I'll be able to get it all in just in time to drive the Land Rover to Wheels Day next Friday!
I do like a challenge.
Some more bits that were done to the car at the weekend:
I had an ammo crate which I'd got on a house clearance a few years back (the same house clearance that got the sofas and other bits for the snug) and it seemed to fit in nicely on the rear bed. I will make some hidden fixings so it can be bolted down onto the rear deck, but in the meantime I used a strap to hold it in place.
There were no logical fixing points, so some tie-down points were found in the 'BiAS Drawer of Wonder' and promptly fixed to the rear bed. The strap was a brand new black strap that looked too clean and out of place, so we employed the services of a light dusting of red oxide primer, followed by rubbing it through the Area 52 rusty 'detailing chain'....then some manhandling with "DIRTY GLOVE" (said in a husky Bob Hoskins voice) and finally trampled on the floor for a few minutes. Suddenly it looked 'right'.
Increasing storage space even further, a small ammo box was bolted to the floor next to the drivers seat. This fitted to well and has become known as the handbag.
I will, when time permits, make it quick release so that it can be used, quite literally, as a 'manbag' handbag.
Another bit of cosmetic work carried out was to remove the shiny chrome plastic B&M shifter surround and paint it satin black. it was a bit too blingy for me, so a rub down and dose of black made it look better. I kept the shifter and knob chrome because I think they work quite well. Even more so now the surround is black
The shifter cable was bright red and now that the surround was black, it really stood out in the interior. Rich & I both had the same idea for how to change that....and he quickly found a piece of fabric braided hose which was slit down its length and slid over the shifter cable. The transmission tunnel was cut in a way that it was already chafing through the shifter cable, so with the new cable cover on, I opened the hole up quite a bit and tried to make it look a bit neater at the same time, removing some of the rough cut corners into a more sympathetic shape.
Being truly sad, I even sat and painted in the B&M logo with some NATO green just to make it stand out a tiny bit. In the flesh it's very subtle but it's one of those touches I just like:
Finally, I put some small washers onto the selector shaft so that the knob screwed on and sat with the logo straight. With it screwed on previously it sat 90 degrees further round and this annoyed me a bit, so packing the base with washers allowed me to have it sat 'correctly'.
The only trouble was you could clearly see the washers, so I found this bearing plate 'thing' which fitted perfectly over the washers disguising/hiding them and making a bit of a hidden feature. I like it....and because it spins around the bottom of the knob, it's brilliant for fiddling with in traffic. Sad heh? (cue jokes about fiddling with my knob!)
With all those bits in place I was much happier with the appearance of the shifter. I will make a shroud when I can to sit around the base between the shifter and the transmission tunnel, but even now it's a bit visual improvement.
Here is a (fuzzy) close-up shot of the set-up before I started tinkering with it to show the difference (chrome shifter surround, red shifter cable, square cut transmission tunnel over cable, shift knob sat at the wrong angle....
As Bizzle would say, "The devil is in the detail".
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