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I've read that as part of the (delayed) 2012 MoT changes, an illuminated airbag warning light is a fail. However, I vaguely remember seeing that the changes had been delayed again.
I've tried googling with no joy whatsoever but you guys on here always seem to know what's what. Is an illuminated airbag light a fail or an advisory?
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10mpg
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yep it's now a fail, has been for a while now, since last April iirc...
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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Take the bulb out? ;-)
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Koos
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Yes and it also needs to light with ignition on and go off so taking bulb out isn't an option. (That's according to letter of law of 2012 changes, don't know how strict the centres are, guess it varies)
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disconect the wire and put it withe the oil lamp so it comes on then goes out.
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froggy
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still an advisory
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A guy on alfaowner.com tells me that VOSA have confirmed to him that the changes switch from being advisory to being a fail on 20 March (which is when my MoT runs out). Methinks it might be early this year.
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I just had a fiat stilo in for some work and she was told by RAC (when they came out because it wouldn't start) it would fail by the time her MOT is due on 3rd april so must be happening soon.
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Nothing on the system yet for airbag light
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bortaf
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disconect the wire and put it withe the oil lamp so it comes on then goes out. No good, the tester will switch on the ign and wait for the light to go out with the engine off (IE with the oil light still on), to work around it you need to fit a timer realy to the bulb. |
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R.I.P photobucket
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All these things are just such a plain in the a!se, it does my head in :-(
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If you look under your front seats you should see a cupple of wires and a connector pull the connector apart and spray a bit of WD40 in it, put back together and normally this does the trick and turns your airbag light off. it has worked for me on a cupple of my cars.
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If it aint broke don't fix it, but that wont stop you tinkering with it.
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what gav said, though I would advise not using WD40 as it is conductive.
just fix it.
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hairymel
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disconect the wire and put it withe the oil lamp so it comes on then goes out. No good, the tester will switch on the ign and wait for the light to go out with the engine off (IE with the oil light still on), to work around it you need to fit a timer realy to the bulb. Testers are again reminded to wait until the legal process behind fully introducing the EU Testing Directive is completed before they start to fail vehicles on the new components.
The bedding-in period for the new test components has been extended indefinitely. The legal process is still underway.
Although the 2011 edition of the inspection manual already contains the reasons for rejection (RfRs) for the new components, testers must not yet fail for defects relating to them but continue to issue advisories.
A special notice will be sent out to let
you know when these items finally go live.
If you need to remind yourself which these items are, Special Notice 2 – 2012 Annex A lists these new components and is available by the F5 key on the VTS Device or at
www.vosa.gov.uk/special-notices. from mot manual www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4_int.zipReason for Rejection
1. An airbag obviously missing or defective.
Note: A passenger airbag that has been
switched off is not a Reason for Rejection.
2. A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS)
malfunction indicator lamp:
• inoperative
• indicating a system malfunction. however a letter posted on pistonheads www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1193332Letter from VOSA.
"Thank you for your email enquiry dated 22nd August 2012, concerning an
airbag.
Until recently, the content of the MOT test was the domain of the
Department for Transport and is enshrined in legislation. The test also
complied with the European Framework Directive on 'Periodic Technical
Inspection' as the MOT test is known in Europe.
However, this Framework Directive was recast in 2009 (2009/40/EC) and
amended in 2010 (2010/48/EU) to include numerous new mandatory test items.
These changes are aimed at bringing the MOT test more up to date by
including the inspection of electronic systems which are now a fundamental
part of vehicle design. They are also a step towards harmonising the test
standards across the EU.
As an EU Member State, we are legally obliged to comply with this Directive
and to introduce the new test items by 2012. The reason that these new
items have since been 'deferred' is because there have been delays in
amending our domestic legislation to accommodate the changes.
Failure to comply with the Directive is not an option and would lead to
infraction proceedings being taken against the government, resulting in
fines, potentially running to millions of Euros and continuing until such
time as the Directive is complied with.
Whilst the Department for Transport would have commented on this Directive
on behalf of the government at the proposal stage, and may well have
opposed some aspects, we now have no option but to comply with the
requirements of the Directive.
In respect of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System) warning lamp; a
vehicle will fail if this lamp indicates an SRS system malfunction.
However, there will be no MOT requirement for the lamp to actually work
once these changes become 'live'. (my emphasis)
I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again." so all in all no clear answer from me ;D imho oil light-srs light would pass, but you stand a chance of killing someone, so make sure its only yourself at risk  perhaps when vosa make their mind up they will let one of the forum friendly mot testers know so they can tell us  |
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whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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Remove the system completely, with no trace of the air bag system.
Most of my mates are having to do this with there track cars now.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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I am pretty sure what the problem is (the light comes on if the connection on the seat is disturbed in any way apparently) but on a Volvo the fault has to be cleared properly using the right software (that I don't have). I will get it fixed but it's useful to know that I don't need to do it for the MoT next week. I'll have a word with my MoT man when I take it to see if he can do it or recommend someone who can.
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ChasR
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I was told that it is an advisory since the MOT changes have been delayed for now. But as said, why bodge it when in most cases the issue will take minutes to fix? IME the issue is generally down to poor contacts underneath the seat. Nothing a bit of switch cleaner cannot sort  . Probably easier than taking the bulb out in a number of cases too! |
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I was told that it is an advisory since the MOT changes have been delayed for now. But as said, why bodge it when in most cases the issue will take minutes to fix? IME the issue is generally down to poor contacts underneath the seat. Nothing a bit of switch cleaner cannot sort . Probably easier than taking the bulb out in a number of cases too! I won't be bodging it don't worry. I'm pretty sure the problem is as you describe, I had the seat right back and fully reclined at the weekend to gain access to the heater blower capacitor and it came on then. Unfortunately, on a Volvo it needs the right reader to a) diagnose the fault b) turn the light off once it's on. It's going for an MoT next week so I'm going to ask my MoT man if he can either read and clear the code or recommend someone locally who can. Failing that, I'll ask on the Volvo forum. |
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dan91
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Wire a resistor in.
Most airbags give roughly 2-3 Ohms resistance, cut the wires on the clip, wire a resistor in sequence and plug it back in, it's what i did when i fitted an aftermarket wheel to my BMW. Light comes on for ignition but doesnt stay on when driving.
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tubbs
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My mot place has a chart on the wall telling them what the air bag light response should be for that car. I.e ignition on 'air bag light illuminated for 2 seconds' engine start 'air bag light illuminated for 2 seconds' when i was having a look it seems different for every car.
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. Probably easier than taking the bulb out in a number of cases too!