Can Rover P6 look cool?

[kens]

Chasing that link found me more:

[Rich G]

P6 Perfection!

[sowen]

Here's another shot of mine ;D



I've been thinking a lot lately of how cool one would look slammed, like an old school lowrider, would be epicly cool bagged or juiced for added amusement

[stealthstylz]

What happened to the hi-rider one Street was building?

[accord83]

Cool,
if it's good enough for Big Chris, I'm not arguing, even in Almond.
have some self whoring

[Mercdan68]

I'm deffo buying one of these soon, ive had enough of overpriced fords and fancy a change
the granada will be for sale july time!

[sowen]

Here's another ex-2000TC, now sporting a real engine in the form of a 5.0 Ford V8 ;D

[pompeypaul]

often fancied one myself, sowen's blue one does it for me

[ejenner]

Excellent thread. ;D

Would prefer a P5 coupe though!

[shanehaward]

you cant drop these though can you because of the horizontal springs?.... always wanted a p6 but the thought of not being able to have it scrapping has put me off.

Would be awsome dropped, tubbed'ish (10"-12" banded steels), worked 4.6 range rover block and stacks coming out of a 4 cylinder bonnet (and would definatly have to stay tatty but not rat)

[sowen]

Apr 30, 2013 21:23:40 GMT shanehaward said:

you cant drop these though can you because of the horizontal springs?.... always wanted a p6 but the thought of not being able to have it scrapping has put me off.

Would be awsome dropped, tubbed'ish (10"-12" banded steels), worked 4.6 range rover block and stacks coming out of a 4 cylinder bonnet (and would definatly have to stay tatty but not rat)

Why not, they're on coil springs? ;D





I've got -2" springs on the front, with about 1.25" shortened struts giving a mild 3" drop on the front ;D

[ChasR]

Now that is a whacky suspension setup. I always say upon seeing a P6 suspension setup. Your car is great Sowen for sure . You shall have to take me for a spin sometime.

The 'Gattaca' car looks great whenever I have seen the movie .

[AtomicRooster]

I think they look pretty decent as standard with that tucked rear wheel.

I like the look of a lowered car but ive never been able to handle daily use, specially with the roads round where i am.

You could always replicate the racers:

[ChasR]

Some cars work better than others lowered (although the amount of how much the car has been hit with a stick can play a part IME).

My Ka, MGB and Stag were/are all OK on lowered springs. Only a couple of speedbumps would cause minor issues (kissing the exhausts).

The Porsche however can be a nightmare where the speedbumps are as high as kerbs and when I encounter potholes on a narrow street worthy of capturing people!

The driving style can also play a part I guess.

[sowen]

The P6 is high and soft to start with, especially compared with almost every modern car, so a fair amount of upgrades, lowering and stiffening, can be made without causing a rough drive on bad roads. There are a couple of local lanes I refuse to drive my modern daily over because the roads are that bad, yet I can blast down the same road in my lowered and stiffened P6 in comfort

I also rarely slow down or avoid potholes and speedhumps unless they are particularly vicious ones which will de-stabilise the car, as I've set it up for comfortable fast cruising with plenty of remaining suspension travel to soak up the imperfections in the road.

I've turned up the damping a little to combat the turn in lurch that is characteristic of the P6, which has made a small difference in ride quality, but it still rides better than most modern cars I've been in. When I fit an uprated anti-roll bar the damping will probably get turned back down again.

Anyway, big arches will attract so much attention on the roads that everyone will want to race you, and obviously you'll probably end up using the performance more and using way more fuel. A low-rider style lowering and going for a cruise is what I think these will excel at

[sowen]

Who's gonna beat me building this ;D

[darrenh]

inboard rod actuated springs, thats a bit motorsport !

[AtomicRooster]

May 1, 2013 8:31:39 GMT sowen said:

The P6 is high and soft to start with, especially compared with almost every modern car, so a fair amount of upgrades, lowering and stiffening, can be made without causing a rough drive on bad roads. There are a couple of local lanes I refuse to drive my modern daily over because the roads are that bad, yet I can blast down the same road in my lowered and stiffened P6 in comfort

I also rarely slow down or avoid potholes and speedhumps unless they are particularly vicious ones which will de-stabilise the car, as I've set it up for comfortable fast cruising with plenty of remaining suspension travel to soak up the imperfections in the road.

I've turned up the damping a little to combat the turn in lurch that is characteristic of the P6, which has made a small difference in ride quality, but it still rides better than most modern cars I've been in. When I fit an uprated anti-roll bar the damping will probably get turned back down again.

Anyway, big arches will attract so much attention on the roads that everyone will want to race you, and obviously you'll probably end up using the performance more and using way more fuel. A low-rider style lowering and going for a cruise is what I think these will excel at

Its nice to hear that actually, what mods has yours got specifically?

[rob0r]

Sowen, since you look to be the best person to ask! What are the steering boxes like on these? (How many turns/how much lock)

Do you rate those Gaz shocks? Where did you get your springs from? I'd love to make a track/drift P6 as I have plenty P6s to hand. I'd want it brutally stiff and as low as possible!

I was day dreaming today to find a way of making the vertical struts height adjustable, I haven't managed to think of a good way yet!

Among my many BMWs I have this lurking in the sheds... Though I think it maybe quite rotten... and auto.

[sowen]

May 1, 2013 12:45:05 GMT AtomicRooster said:

May 1, 2013 8:31:39 GMT sowen said:

The P6 is high and soft to start with, especially compared with almost every modern car, so a fair amount of upgrades, lowering and stiffening, can be made without causing a rough drive on bad roads. There are a couple of local lanes I refuse to drive my modern daily over because the roads are that bad, yet I can blast down the same road in my lowered and stiffened P6 in comfort

I also rarely slow down or avoid potholes and speedhumps unless they are particularly vicious ones which will de-stabilise the car, as I've set it up for comfortable fast cruising with plenty of remaining suspension travel to soak up the imperfections in the road.

I've turned up the damping a little to combat the turn in lurch that is characteristic of the P6, which has made a small difference in ride quality, but it still rides better than most modern cars I've been in. When I fit an uprated anti-roll bar the damping will probably get turned back down again.

Anyway, big arches will attract so much attention on the roads that everyone will want to race you, and obviously you'll probably end up using the performance more and using way more fuel. A low-rider style lowering and going for a cruise is what I think these will excel at

Its nice to hear that actually, what mods has yours got specifically?

Most details are somewhere in here

retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=readersrides&thread=45247&page=22#1639526

May 1, 2013 13:14:49 GMT rob0r said:

Sowen, since you look to be the best person to ask! What are the steering boxes like on these? (How many turns/how much lock)

Do you rate those Gaz shocks? Where did you get your springs from? I'd love to make a track/drift P6 as I have plenty P6s to hand. I'd want it brutally stiff and as low as possible!

I was day dreaming today to find a way of making the vertical struts height adjustable, I haven't managed to think of a good way yet!

Among my many BMWs I have this lurking in the sheds... Though I think it maybe quite rotten... and auto.
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Off the top of my head I can't remember how many turns lock to lock, it's the manual box so quite a few, but I think I get where you're coming from . At the wheel, there is quite a lot of lock, restricted by the inner wing and other suspension gubbins, but not impossible to move outwards to gain some more, some drifters do it anyway! At the top under the steering box and idler is a stop bolt each side which could be wound in if there's enough travel left in the box itself?

Why not go coilovers all round? The rear would be relatively easy, standard coil with damper mounted through the centre, front should also be fairly easy, remove the pushrod that goes into the spring cup off the arm and mount the coilover directly on that

The Gaz dampers are alright, the problem I've seen is the front eyes are too small and the bushes too hard, causing some more rusty cars to break the pin off the chassis leg. They would be better with a large eye and proper rubber bush rather than poly, which in my opinion going by what I've read from others is the polybushes are not suited to the car and how the suspension operates. The springs come from Sheffield Coilsprings, again, I've not had any trouble with them.

Pick of the bunch I think would be the 2000 auto, they have the larger automatic tunnel for gearbox swaps, and being a 2000 are not as sought after so cheaper and it doesn't matter if so much if they get modded, and they don't have the ugly front valance that looks like a bottom feeder fish ;D