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Option 1 is aesthetically better from the angle that the photo was taken but in reality the arch and spoiler look so good that once painted it would not really matter . Good work Tony . I'm needing some more E24 parts so will e mail you. Don
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Option 1 on the join for me. Superb fabrication work as always, it's pretty amazing to see someone building a good metal bodykit like this rather than gluing a fibreglass one on.
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Great work as always Tony, still find myself thinking you make it lok too easy! Option 1 seems good to me Whatever happened to the blue E28 M5 by the way?
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I also go for option 1 with those pictures but at different angles it might look odd. No point really commenting on the standard of work because we all know how good it is. You do make it look so easy though! John
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Thanks Guys, I think option 1 as well, its really the only one that makes sense
Danny, Blue E28 M5 is still languishing in my garage, hope to get back on with it early part of next year, I've changed jobs recently and don't seem to have as mush spare time as I did
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Holy smoke, that is just extraordinary, the fit of your scratch built front valance against the wings is something I can only dream of. Amazing.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:58:44 GMT
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Dec 16, 2013 21:00:16 GMT
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Yes it did, looks like you have just painted a bit of a completely different door! John
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Dec 16, 2013 23:25:17 GMT
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I do love a little bit of classic British understatement. Michelangelo with a Mig would be closer!.
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eurogranada
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Quick question: Did you create a step to put the repair patch on or did you graft it in?
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Dec 17, 2013 22:54:38 GMT
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Absolutely beautiful fabrication work there. In the earlier mock up photos I think the new parts give the cars overall shape a much more interesting look than it had without them, particularly the rear quarters. They really suit it, and it reminds me a bit of the early Datsun Z cars in general appearance.
I also prefer option 1 on the joint position. I think this is more like the position you would expect an original factory joint to be, and the second one looks a bit more 'aftermarket'?
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bstardchild
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Dec 17, 2013 23:53:25 GMT
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Being on the curved part of the door I was fairly confident that it could be welded in without too much distortion Turned out well Wow you buzzed that in on fine setting 4 or 5?
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Dec 18, 2013 17:46:12 GMT
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I do love a little bit of classic British understatement. Michelangelo with a Mig would be closer!. So we've got the brand name "TonyBMW" and now we have the strapline..."Michelangelo with a Mig" As always Tony, simply stunning work. p.s def Option 1!
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Last Edit: Dec 18, 2013 17:46:50 GMT by Carsie
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Dec 18, 2013 19:56:32 GMT
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Thanks Guys Quick question: Did you create a step to put the repair patch on or did you graft it in? Yes the joint was joddled, more chance of getting it to stay flat when welded Absolutely beautiful fabrication work there. In the earlier mock up photos I think the new parts give the cars overall shape a much more interesting look than it had without them, particularly the rear quarters. They really suit it, and it reminds me a bit of the early Datsun Z cars in general appearance. I also prefer option 1 on the joint position. I think this is more like the position you would expect an original factory joint to be, and the second one looks a bit more 'aftermarket'? I agree 100%, I was a little worried about what we were going to be doing to this car when it arrived, as generally I'm a purist at heart, but I've done my best to stay faithful to the shape, and I'm really pleased with the way its working out I'd like to think that if Toyota built a Group A Racer back in 1976, then it would have looked something like this, and definitely option 1 aswell for the joint Being on the curved part of the door I was fairly confident that it could be welded in without too much distortion Turned out well Wow you buzzed that in on fine setting 4 or 5? Yes setting 5 I think BC, sometimes upto 6 if I can get away with it, what you using yours on ?? I do love a little bit of classic British understatement. Michelangelo with a Mig would be closer!. So we've got the brand name "TonyBMW" and now we have the strapline..."Michelangelo with a Mig" As always Tony, simply stunning work. p.s def Option 1! Thanks Mike
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bstardchild
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Wow you buzzed that in on fine setting 4 or 5? Yes setting 5 I think BC, sometimes upto 6 if I can get away with it, what you using yours on ?? On 20 guage no more than 3 - I think I weld too slow
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Dec 19, 2013 10:40:40 GMT
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Great work as always tony, I did a lot of research of celicas with arch extensions and have not found many that stayed true to the cars line, even the trd arches which i bought didn't look great, the only way was to go down the fabricated road, the arches are exactly what i was wanting, basically the same as the original ones except bigger, the whole purpose of this project is to try to keep a factory look which i think is being achieved , iwasnt sure about the front spoiler when i saw the first pics but when you added the gusset to the arch it made a big difference , i am really looking forward to getting her painted and getting the wheels on . I had to wait a while for tony to do the work but its been well worth the wait and he is a top bloke and wouldn't hesitate to recommend him to anybody,he has a gift and should be doing it full time as I'm sure he would be very busy. Thats the glowing referral bit done Tony
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Last Edit: Dec 19, 2013 20:18:25 GMT by elbak77
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eurogranada
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Dec 19, 2013 13:46:59 GMT
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Am I overly scared of joddled joints as rust traps?? I am always told that the edge created if not welden on both sides leaves room for moisture to get trapped. It is one of the reasons I did all of my patches without joddling, just putting one piece of steel up directly to the other.
I do really envy the skills of people like you. You make it seem so easy....
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Dec 19, 2013 19:56:18 GMT
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Am I overly scared of joddled joints as rust traps?? I am always told that the edge created if not welden on both sides leaves room for moisture to get trapped. It is one of the reasons I did all of my patches without joddling, just putting one piece of steel up directly to the other. I do really envy the skills of people like you. You make it seem so easy.... The way I look at it is thats its no worse than all the spot welded seams that all cars have either between panels, or chassis to body joints As long as the metal is protected between and then sealed afterwards, I see no reason to worry about it don't get me wrong, if your happy to do butt welds then continue to do so, and there are certainly applications where that is what should be done, but in my experience there are also plenty of applications where creating a joddled edge will make for a better and stiffer joint
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Last Edit: Dec 19, 2013 19:57:54 GMT by tonybmw
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