af1
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Jul 30, 2013 22:35:46 GMT
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Having had numerous 306's I ended up with a stripped track gti-6 As a kid I was weaned on 80's-90's pugs! My brother had a 205 GT, my dad a 309 xsi .. Neighbour had a few 205gti's and I was present when some close friends of the family (who were twins) had a brand new 306 xrdt in 1993 and I was present the day they went to the dealer to swap it in for two separate 106s a silver xs and a red rallye! The rallye was Even used as my mums wedding car! Anyway about 18 years after that photo was taken, after a few times of coming close to buying one I finally got my own rallye! It needs some work, but it totally worth saving! 81k with original bill of sale and a fair bit of paperwork.. It was obvious from the advert that the roof and bonnet need painting and it needs a new drivers door! And let's not even talk about the towbar it had fitted!!!! Oh and someone has brushed black hammerite over the wheels! However, all is not lost because the garage was next to a light railway and we got to see Thomas Booked it in for an MOT this morning 30/07/13 And it failed: Number plate bulb Directional tyre on wrong way (probably from painting the wheels a curse word colour) Rusty O/s Sill Not too bad, the mot tester even said it was a cool little car Currently the hunt is on for a decent welder to sort this out, I don't want no mot patches! I got the car back to base and fitted my first purchase (I bought it before I bought the car) Sounds awful but it's all about standard spec! Then I spent 40mins stripping the carpet out! And removing the tow bar I forgot how simple these cars are to work on!!! In no time at all I had the carpet out and the drivers seat bolted In I only found 20p doing this which is a bit curse word Plan is to Hoover, jet and scrub the carpet and refit I thought these cars had less / no sound deadening? This was preto heavy and wet and smelly Car looks pretty solid apart from rust around near that sill At least it's still movable
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Jul 31, 2013 10:16:54 GMT
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never owned one, but always admired these from afar. what you gonna do to it ?
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Jul 31, 2013 10:28:16 GMT
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Nice, always liked these. Had a couple of 205's in the past, one being a Rallye, sadly not the Euro spec one. I kept looking at this one on ebay (assume it's the same one due to roof/bonnet paint issues) Really fancy a black series 1, look forward to watching this progress. Good choice!
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Jul 31, 2013 13:53:41 GMT
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what's the reg on this one?
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Jul 31, 2013 17:57:18 GMT
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errrr....isn't Thomas T Tank Engine Blue???
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af1
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Jul 31, 2013 20:27:26 GMT
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errrr....isn't Thomas T Tank Engine Blue??? You are right, maybe it's Nevelle? Nice, always liked these. Had a couple of 205's in the past, one being a Rallye, sadly not the Euro spec one. I kept looking at this one on ebay (assume it's the same one due to roof/bonnet paint issues) Really fancy a black series 1, look forward to watching this progress. Good choice! Yeah it's the eBay one!
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af1
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Jul 31, 2013 20:27:50 GMT
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never owned one, but always admired these from afar. what you gonna do to it ? STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD lol
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Jul 31, 2013 22:59:22 GMT
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Check the front chassis rail swan necks for rust if there is rust on the sills... it is the only place I've found rust with the two that I have bare shelled. It may not be noticeable under the underseal but worth giving it a tap with the hammer and checking that it sounds ok.
Other than that the boot seams can start to split, so worth having a quick look at those too, just to check.
Feel free to pm me any questions, been a while since I've touched mine but I've owned two 106 rallye rally cars (and to my shame I catastrophically wrote a cherry red one off on an event, in fact I had to check your first pic to check it wasn't that one!)
Truly love the things, so much fun. Reminds me I need to fix mine and get it back on the road in the future!
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- '80 Mk1 Vauxhall Cavalier Saloon, 3.0l 12v... in progress with some special plans ahead - '94 106 Rallye, Endurance Rally Car
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I catastrophically wrote a cherry red one off on an event, in fact I had to check your first pic to check it wasn't that one!! Are you on PSOOC? I remember a Red Rallye with a 16v getting rolled on a track type day many years ago. Thought so, had it on watch for a while lol. STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD lol Good stuff Not many standard ones about these days.
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Last Edit: Aug 1, 2013 6:08:47 GMT by joem83
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af1
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Hopefully getting the sill looked at on Sunday then need to find a drivers door and save for a respray
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Love these
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If you can't beat em, knock em off
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af1
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May 15, 2014 17:39:55 GMT
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So What have I done in a year? Not much at all! This was my n/s wheel arch at first i just gave it a clean and sprayed it with some of this stuff and it looked, well it looked awful So i stripped it all back, and removed the factory under seal to see if there was any rust behind it, fortunately there wasn't much, just a bit of surface rust! never the less i coated it in www.rust.co.uk's FE-123 Rust ConverterThen i brush painted it with www.rust.co.uk's Epoxy-Mastic Rust Proofing Chassis PaintAs you can see it looks pretty brush painted but apparently this stuff is hard as nails and prevents rust very well, there are numerous articles about it. I seem to have a fairly rust free example and wish to keep it that way. It can be used as either a base or a top coat, I would like it a bit smoother so might look into spraying a extra couple of coats onto it so it has a nice smooth appearance but the general advice from many forums is to brush on two coats for the best protection If anyone has any previous knowledge of this stuff or rust proofing cars then please let me know! I will always gladly listen. My plan for this year is to sort out any rust and under seal the car. hopefully if i pull my finger out i can have this car MOT'd (albeit with VERY scruffy paintwork) by the end of the summer! Also forgot to add that I did a bit of shopping; I got a replacement Drivers Door Replacement Rear Bumper and a service kit for the engine, including a cambelt kit again, just need to find the time to crack on! Also I seek your advice in regards to my seats, the black parts have faded quite badly into red colour on the bolsters and head rests :/ what do you suggest I do, how much am i realistically looking at for a reupholster (the actual patterned trim is in pretty good nick)
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May 15, 2014 18:32:09 GMT
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cant go wrong with epoxy. all i would say is that brush painting can be a bit thin in the troughs made by the bristles
painting the signature white wheels black, what were they thinking !
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af1
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May 15, 2014 23:12:50 GMT
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painting the signature white wheels black, what were they thinking ! Sometimes it stops me sleeping at night!!
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May 16, 2014 12:02:11 GMT
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Yeah! I love this stuff, it was the combo I used on my last Golf rebuild and partially on the delica (I say partially as I used it on the arches and underside but used a cheaper epoxy mastic to paint the body)
FE-123 and their mastic is pricey, but worth every penny - I've always found that the epoxy levels very well off the brush (normally), but it's fantastic through a gun.
I'd back these two up with a hefty coat of waxoyl underbody coating (the only product from Hammerite I'd ever let near a car)
Do love a 106, it's yet another car on my bucket list, but I can't really justify buying one to the 'boss' - thankfully my sons are rapidly approaching car driving age and if they think they are getting a car from daddy, then they'll damn well help me build something - I'm sure I can convince her a 106 would fit the bill.
I'll be watching how this progresses, you'll need to up the pace a bit though mate, at a rate of 1 arch every 12 months, it's gonna be a slow build!
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af1
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Hello,
So the Welding has been done, And I plan to do the whole underside in epoxy mastic.
Can anyone (I particularly look for advice from regcheeseman in regards to this) advise on a product to put into the sills (which I have good access to) also, are you saying I cant just leave the arches and underside in epoxy mastic and advise another product on top?
I have a cheap air compressor, one that I hope will be adequate for spraying the epoxy mastic to get a better finish, can you advise on a a suitable gun?
Thanks in Advance
Alan
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Something to put into the sills? Bilt Hamber Dynax S50, seeps into seams far better that the usual waxoyl - though if you must use waxoyl, improve its performance by warming it up well before use and adding some diesel.
You could leave the underside in epoxy, but I've a bit of an addition to schutz (finnigans underbody seal with waxoyl) I buy it in litre containers and spray it on with the compressor and schutz gun.
Spraying epoxy? any cheapo gun will do, but you really need a decent size nozzle as its thick stuff, so 1.4 nozzle size
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There's one of these for sale at a dealership not far from me, exactly the same as this apart from it still having white wheels. £1500 I think.
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af1
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Jun 17, 2014 11:55:46 GMT
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Hey a bit of an update The legendary Neb off this very forum very kindly sorted out my rear sill! It looks as though the entire rear 3/4 is a replacement panel, hence why it has rusted After that, I got it back home And started some rust busting The sill tv the drivers door was blistering and bubbling I started sanding it back and found a lot of filler There was a bit of rust which was all ground back, it went to the underside of the car So all bad metal was removed then lashed with some rust converter Then came the time To clean up the o/s rear arch With the n/s arch I did everything by hand with chisels and a pants 12v drill and a wire wheel! It took ages and looked horrible, was horrible to do and not helped by the fact I has sprayed schutz in there first With the o/s I used one of these Poly carbide disc or clean and strip disc It made light work of stripping it, I still had to chisel a lot of the underseal that had been brushed on I softened the whole area with cheap b&q paint stripper and it made light work of the entire area! When I got it back to clean metal (fortunately there was no rust at all here) I applied a coat of rust converter for good measure then brush painted a coat of epoxy mastic paint ensuring I loaded up any areas where panels join. I will be be applying another coat by hand then seam sealing, probably with something like tigerseal, the bits where panel join. Hopefully once I get a gun for my compressor a couple of coats will be sprayed on just to tidy it up a bit. This is where I am at currently I will be getting some Bilt-hamber dynax s50 to spray in all cavities and box sections. Fortunately it's quite warm so it should have nice seepage into all the tight spaces and gaps This is how it looks at the moment Oh and a progress shot! Looks like my jack has been nicked from my garden (along with a spare battery) so I apologise for the terrible scissor jack supporting the car! Rest assured I did not get into the arch at any time.. Just my arms and let's face it, we all know arms are incredibly over rated so losing one would not be a major ball ache
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af1
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i have since sprayed all the box sections with the dynax s50, all in the front, the back, the sills, chassis legs.. basically anywhere i could get the nozzle!! I have purchased some axle stands, so far the wheel arches have been brush painted with two coats of rust busters epoxy mastic 121, Tonight i went over all the seams in the wheel arch with some tiger seal, which i then neatened up with a gloved finger whilst i wait for that to set over night, i applied some bilthamber deox gel to some of the rusted parts on the rear of the underneath. (seeing as i feel safe to go under it now!) I have wrapped them in cling film to give them a chance to work overnight. Once the tiger seal has dried i will be putting on an extra coat of the Epoxy Mastic 121 and then looking into something to spray over it to look a bit more presentable, I am thinking 3m stone guard? can any one suggest what products would be best.. basically i DO NOT want this car rusting on me, but i also would like a presentable underside. I will be applying the tiger seal to all sections where there are body joins on the underneath. Also as you can see from the pics, my wheels look awful! i am tempted to just take them to a pro to sort out, however there is the temptation to do them myself. I am having a tough time removing all the paint, is there any products anyone can suggest?
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