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Oct 28, 2013 15:10:47 GMT
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Well, I have enjoyed looking around this forum for some time now. So here is my own thread about my fiat 850 sedan. I have this car now for 3 years, before I had a Renault 4 which I rebuilt with a Alpine Turbo engine. This built was real fun, but also the biggest mistake I made with this car.. It was really to much power for it. And after I switched to a Renault 5 gt turbo setup instead of the normal Alpine setup. I killed it..the Fuel return line was to small in diameter for the electric fuel pump. So pure gazoline was getting inside the engine/oil etc. I rebuilt the engine, but never drove it after that. I sold it, also because our first son was born. the day it left; Then in search for a new R4, I found the little fiat 850 The car came from Italy originally and had been sitting in a storage for a couple of years. I think i am the 3rd owner since new. Coming from Italy means almost no rust. It is still at the beginning of all the italian rust problems. I only upgrade to the exhaust of a 850 coupe and put a weber 30 dic on it. my 850 is a super. this means it has disc brakes in the front and a cilinder head of a 850 coupe. the standard 850 has 34hp, mine should have 37. next plans are keep it original and keep it on the road. plans are to lower it a bit and put adjustable koni's all around. I had these on the R4 and they worked out great. They are already mounted on the front. Only the back still has to be done.
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Oct 28, 2013 15:58:01 GMT
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Very nice. I wish we could find them in this condition over here.
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1987 Alfa Milano/75 1979 Alfetta Mille Miglia 1976 Alfetta GT race car 1970 Lancia Fulvia 1.3 Rallye S 1968 Fiat 850 spider
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Oct 28, 2013 16:18:11 GMT
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Thank you, it isn't in the best condition. it is good and a nice driver. it needs to be painted, specially the fenders, but that is way too expensive in the netherlands interior: and with my little helper, the bad spots; and next to my bosses Tesla(drives great by the way, but not very retro)
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Oct 28, 2013 20:07:01 GMT
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Wow another great Fiat ride from the Netherlands ! The Dutch content here gets a boost ! I like the rear driven Fiat's (especially the Abarth's ;-) Where are you from??
Ciao (and "bookmarked")
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Very clean little sedan! I am very jealous
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Oct 29, 2013 11:15:40 GMT
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Thank You ditchdigger and Willem, @ Willem, I am from Papendrecht, close to Dordrecht. Love your 127 too.
And @ ditchdigger, only respect to you sir! love the work you do on your 850! Amazing! and very inspiring to get working on the car The car is pretty clean, but not way as badass as your car.
other plans: In the future I hope to find some nice wheels for my 850..sometime. But most of them are pretty expensive. Also because of the Fiat 4x98 bolt pattern of course 4x100 will fit, but then the centre of the wheels are to small in diameter
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Oct 29, 2013 13:08:24 GMT
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A quick power upgrade can be had with a proper exhaust, it's amazing how much difference it makes on these littles engines. You should look for one that mimics the Abarth four into two. Here is one I made,
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1987 Alfa Milano/75 1979 Alfetta Mille Miglia 1976 Alfetta GT race car 1970 Lancia Fulvia 1.3 Rallye S 1968 Fiat 850 spider
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Oct 29, 2013 14:10:59 GMT
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The exhaust from the coupe already made a difference. When I got the car it still had the original exhaust on it. Due to the Dutch MOT I needed a new one. And I liked the look of the 4 in 1 exhaust and hoped it would help getting a few more horses.
But a sports exhaust would be nice also. Did you also make the headers yourself? another future plan is to make one
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Oct 29, 2013 16:54:50 GMT
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Yes the exhaust you have is an improvement over the sedan single pipe but there is more to be had. The pipe length is incorrect and the collector is of poor design. I did not make the header, it was sold as an old stock "Abarth" but it's not. Below is a genuine Abarth, the quality difference is quite apparent . I'm now experimenting with adapting motorcycle headers as they are well designed and made yet cheap.
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1987 Alfa Milano/75 1979 Alfetta Mille Miglia 1976 Alfetta GT race car 1970 Lancia Fulvia 1.3 Rallye S 1968 Fiat 850 spider
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Nov 11, 2013 19:49:01 GMT
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Hi nmretro, That is a nice looking header, what motorcycle headers are you looking for? You found anything pretty close to the 850 cilinder head?
I have another question, does any of you 850 or 600 guys have a replacement for the temperature sensor(the sensor, not the switch)? mine is broken, but I refuse to pay €40,- for a new one.. The problem is the small t-piece with the hoses from the thermostat to the waterpump. This causes the sensor being more like a banjo-bolt(or how its called in English)
have you got any ideas? Or does any of you know the correct resistance for the sensor. And is it correct the thread is M14x1,5? I could skip the t-piece and just screw the sensor directly in the cilinderhead.
thnx
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Nov 12, 2013 14:31:32 GMT
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1987 Alfa Milano/75 1979 Alfetta Mille Miglia 1976 Alfetta GT race car 1970 Lancia Fulvia 1.3 Rallye S 1968 Fiat 850 spider
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Nov 13, 2013 12:02:04 GMT
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Thank you nmretro, but for now it's ok. It is just an extra, since I shapped to a dashboard/speedo of a 850 special. I probably can find one second hand in the Netherlands. But thank you for your offer.
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I recently picked up some ATS classic rims, they are 4x100 but fit the 850 with wobblebolts(is that the correct name)? Sorry for the bad picks but they were made in the garage and I couldn't move the car outside. I only think I need 2 new tires, I inflated them but they are flat again.. And I have to think of something to make the wheels centre properly. I also have found another second hand watertemperature sensor, mine seemed to be bent and cracked. I also didn't have the chance to test if this sensor works.
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Always exciting to get some different wheels. I might have to investigate similar bolts so I can experiment with my Lancia one day..
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mooi he zo,n fiat 850 wij hebben ooit de fiat 850 club opgericht in nederland ,en ik zelf heb er veel gerestaureerd in het verleden 1 tip nooit de schermen eraf halen ,ze zijn hier niet meer te koop gr john
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O yes, I also like the ATS rims,very classic ,just a great upgrade for the 850 ;-)
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Jan 11, 2014 23:46:14 GMT
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henk poortinga in putten heeft misschien nog de orgn anza sport uitlaten liggen en vergeet je het centrufigaal filter niet schoon te maken zit op de krukas poelie
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Jan 13, 2014 11:18:41 GMT
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Thank all, I had to take the new rims off again, they were leaking badly on the rim itself. so I have to take the tyres of first and refurbish them a bit.
Friday I went to work with the 850, but unfortunatelly the temp. sensor/indicator still doesn't work. Next thing I will checht is the "earth" going to the engine. maybe that is the problem?
I have cleaned the centrifugal filter already once. on my engine it is possible to fit a external oil filter, but I didn't check that yet.
The fenders are staying, at least I am not planning to take them of. I only need to fix them. and they have some dents etc. but I don't care.
A sports exhaust would be nice, but they cost serious money
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Jan 13, 2014 13:45:34 GMT
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If you run the temp wire to the cylinder head, just ground (earth) it out, the gauge should peg or the light should come on. If not your fault is else where. You can plumb in an external oil filter but it requires modification the the block and oil pressure relief valve and associated plumbing. Not worth it for a mild street engine, just use quality oil and change often. The ATS look great
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1987 Alfa Milano/75 1979 Alfetta Mille Miglia 1976 Alfetta GT race car 1970 Lancia Fulvia 1.3 Rallye S 1968 Fiat 850 spider
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Jan 14, 2014 10:51:39 GMT
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aha ground was the word is was looking for, I have done that and the gauge moves but I will check it again, because I don't know where I tested. maybe the sensor I got now is also faulty? we will see. about the oil filter: On my engine block I have this. A blind plate in the same position where you can put a oil filter. I only haven't dared to remove it to see what is behind
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