1947 Standard 8 hotrod

[RetroWarwicK]

I'll just leave these photos here for now. It's a Standard 8 rolling chassis in very solid condition, with buff logbook and later v5 paperwork. Has been off the road since the 60's. The plan (at the moment) is to keep it on the back burner whilst i decide how to proceed.....but i have images of Rubellion in my head, powered by a modern 3 cylinder engine on throttle bodies.

[marinacoupe]

Are they front and rear cable brakes in the picture of the central part of the chassis, or are they some kind of tension based chassis stiffener?

[RetroWarwicK]

The cables are part of the hero-spec braking system

[crahel]

Good looking steel rims, Do you have the body.

[RetroWarwicK]

no body or engine/box, giving me the freedom to built it how i wish with the guilt. i do want to keep was much as possible, so aiming to the keep the brakes and rear axle as is, hence going for a modern 3 pot engine under 100bhp.

Currently i'm investigatng the vauxhall 1.0L x10xe-z10xe-z10xep engine family coupled to a ford rocket box.

[mudpud]

OOh Er! 100 HP and cable brakes,better place order for industrial underpants, possibly in brown!
Keep Posting, watching with bated breath.

[RetroWarwicK]

Feb 28, 2014 13:49:23 GMT mudpud said:

OOh Er! 100 HP and cable brakes,better place order for industrial underpants, possibly in brown!
Keep Posting, watching with bated breath.

The 1009cc engine was rated at 28bhp with a total car weight of 762kgs. The GM 3pot on throttle bodies I reckon is about 70bhp but I'm aiming for a light body so about 500-600kgs?

[scimjim]

a Rocket box would be hoooooogely over-specceed for that engine! A type E or type 3 would be more than enough (and a whole lot cheaper) - type 9 if you want the extra gear?

[RetroWarwicK]

Feb 28, 2014 15:09:57 GMT scimjim said:

a Rocket box would be hoooooogely over-specceed for that engine! A type E or type 3 would be more than enough (and a whole lot cheaper) - type 9 if you want the extra gear?

So these other boxes mount to a "type 9" style bellhousing? i just though the 'rocket box' was the name of the ford standard 4 speed'er before the type 9 came along

[scimjim]

The Rocket box is a type E with close ratio gears.

Don't know anything about the GM motor but you can get bellhousings for the type E, 3 & 9 for the CVH which shares bolt pattern with a wide range of 4 pot fords.

[marinacoupe]

Why not go old school?

Standard Triumph Spitfire/Herald 1200 or 1300 engine and gearbox could be the most appropriate or BMC A series from MG Midget.

Both can be fitted with fuel injection and mapped ignition to improve reliability and running costs.

If you can prove original year of manufacture it'll be tax and MOT free, unless you get pinged for upgrade/changes as a radically altered vehicle, then it could need SVA.

www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles

[trouble]

Dirt cheap 12k mile Fiat lump here if you stuck - mega cheap!

Paul

[RetroWarwicK]

Feb 28, 2014 16:41:09 GMT scimjim said:

The Rocket box is a type E with close ratio gears.

Don't know anything about the GM motor but you can get bellhousings for the type E, 3 & 9 for the CVH which shares bolt pattern with a wide range of 4 pot fords.

excelle3nt...i'll look out for one of these boxes. they'll mount up to any of the later GM lumps they all use the same bellhousing pattern and I can get a bellhousing adptor off the shelf

[scimjim]

just checked and the Type 3 gearbox has a 7/8" 20 spline input shaft, whereas the Type E and Type 9 have a 1" 23 spline input shaft.

I have a spare type 3 (with CVH bellhousing if required)

[sonus]

Looking forward to this build. I've got two Standard Eight frames. My father is building another 8 tourer for hill climbing none the less. He's using a Mayflower engine. I'm think about making a special with a blown Mayflower motor out of one of my parts bin. Just imagine tearing up the hill with a 1000cc 50bhp blown side valve

[RetroWarwicK]

Feb 28, 2014 19:31:47 GMT scimjim said:

just checked and the Type 3 gearbox has a 7/8" 20 spline input shaft, whereas the Type E and Type 9 have a 1" 23 spline input shaft.

I have a spare type 3 (with CVH bellhousing if required)

I'll need to do some research on clutches as I suspect the 1" 23 spline shafts are well catered for.

[RetroWarwicK]

Feb 28, 2014 18:39:53 GMT marinacoupe said:

Why not go old school?

Standard Triumph Spitfire/Herald 1200 or 1300 engine and gearbox could be the most appropriate or BMC A series from MG Midget.

Both can be fitted with fuel injection and mapped ignition to improve reliability and running costs.

If you can prove original year of manufacture it'll be tax and MOT free, unless you get pinged for upgrade/changes as a radically altered vehicle, then it could need SVA.

www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles

I have the buff logbook and the v5 logbook for the car - it has an unaltered chassis, both axles, front/rear suspension and the steering system so well over the 8 point threshold.....

[Carter]

Going to be a great project, nice one!

[bmwv8capri]

Great project

if the cable brakes on my Austin 7 are anything to go by, you're better off carrying an anchor and chain in the car and throwing it at a tree when you need to stop!

[marinacoupe]

This will be fun, bookmarked it for the full story to develop.