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Mar 14, 2014 19:54:28 GMT
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Hey Guys. I was thinking earlier today about cars which were not popular at the time of launch, but would have been in later years. The reason being because they had created a new niche which was daring, but later to become popular. I'll start off here with the original Honda Insight. A hybrid vehicle when the price of fuel was comparatively more reasonable. Smart thinking, however not for the time. For the same reasons, the first Toyota Prius too.
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Project - 1990 Trabant 601 Daily - 2006 Saab 93
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Mar 14, 2014 20:01:03 GMT
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Mar 14, 2014 20:18:25 GMT
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when this came out it was ahead of it's time certainly for styling compared to it's predisesor even if the underpinning were quite traditional. You either loved it or hated it when it was launched, but within a couple of years it was common place, even if it put off Ford being ambitious again for a long time.
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Porsche
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Kev from B'ham.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:31:29 GMT
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1901: Porsche Builds The World's First Hybrid Yes, we're talking about that Porsche. At the tender age of 26, Ferdinand Porsche built a four wheel drive gasoline-electric hybrid car. Although famous for his conventional automobiles, Porsche got his start at the Béla Egger Electrical company in Vienna, Austria, where he designed an electric hub motor. Fatefully, he joined coach builder Jakob Lohner & Co. in 1898. Porsche incorporated a pair of hub motors in the first Lohner-Porsche design, which resembled a carriage with electrically powered rear wheels. It was easy enough to create a four wheel drive version simply by adding two more motors to drive the front wheels, and that's exactly what Porsche did to create the Toujours-Contente, intended as a record-setting racer. The vehicle required almost 2 tonnes of lead acid batteries to run, severely hampering performance and practicality. By James Grahame.
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adam73bgt
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Cars ahead of their timeadam73bgt
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Mar 14, 2014 20:43:17 GMT
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The big german car companies all seem to be making coupe styled versions of their saloon cars, think VW Passat CC, Audi A5, Mercs, BMWs et al. Many seem to put this down to the Mercedes Benz CLS but surely the (or one of the) first coupe styled executive car was the Rover SD1?
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Last Edit: Mar 14, 2014 20:43:37 GMT by adam73bgt
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luckyseven
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Mar 14, 2014 20:48:38 GMT
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1901: Porsche Builds The World's First Hybrid Fascinating thing it is, too . Certainly it'd have presence on the road even now, back then it must have looked like the Starship Enterprise. If the Starship Enterprise had been invented then, that is... My vote would predictably go to anything rotary really... except for the fact they don't really seem to have caught on even now
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Mar 14, 2014 21:01:54 GMT
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Maybe it's just me, but I always thought the Mini-based Alto Duo kitcar beat the Smart by a decade.
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MK2VR6
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Mk2 Golf GTi 90 Spec
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Mar 14, 2014 21:02:12 GMT
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I just knew I'd see an RO80 somewhere on this thread. This totally blew the competition away and deserves the ultimate 'ahead of its time' accolade.
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joe90
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Mar 14, 2014 21:09:40 GMT
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The Tucker Torpedo www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/1948_Tucker_chassis_1010.jpg was way ahead of its time, safety features included a central headlight that moved as the steering wheel turned, a pop out windscreen if the car rolled, seat belts as standard, ect. Did have a good film made about the cars conception and demise called A Man And His Dream. Bryan
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bl1300
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Mar 14, 2014 21:27:22 GMT
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1st small/budget car with automatic transmission. 1st car to feature a CVT Technology used in it was way ahead of any other budget car in 1959. The variomatic never really caught on then but today they are becoming quite common amongst hybrids and city cars. The OSI city was an idea ahead of its time as well with doors that are appearing on car like the new meriva and asymetric design but sadly that never got past the prototype stage
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Current fleet.
1967 DAF 44 1974 VW Beetle 1303s 1975 Triumph Spitfire MkIV 1988 VW LT45 Beavertail 1998 Volvo V70 2.5 1959 Fordson Dexta
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Mar 14, 2014 21:30:11 GMT
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1934 peugeot brought out the 601 which i think was the 1st retractable hardtop, followed by ford in 1957 with the fairlane then it reappeared with the mercedes slk in 1996.
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Mar 14, 2014 21:59:18 GMT
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when this came out it was ahead of it's time certainly for styling compared to it's predisesor even if the underpinning were quite traditional. You either loved it or hated it when it was launched, but within a couple of years it was common place, even if it put off Ford being ambitious again for a long time. The underpinnings were far from traditional. A lot of people seem to think that these were still Cortinas under the skin, not so. The engine and gearbox were the same but that's all and that doesn't make the car. The Cortina used an american style double wishbone front suspension set up on a subframe. The Sierra used McPherson struts up front attached straight to the body shell. The Cortina used a 4-linked live axle in the rear, the Sierra used trailing arm independent rear suspension. So the whole thing was new.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Mar 14, 2014 22:33:59 GMT
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Del
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Mar 14, 2014 23:17:10 GMT
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^^^ I'd disagree and say: Introduced in 1983, the year before the Espace.
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fred
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WTF has happened to all the Vennies?
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Mar 14, 2014 23:28:00 GMT
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This one smouldered for a short time as the public hadnt seen such a thing, then the whole world wanted one, it was at the time the best of the best
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'79 Cossie ran Cortina - Sold
2000 Fozzer 2.0 turbo snow beast
'85 Opel Manta GSI - Sold
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Looking for a FD Ventora - Anyone?
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Everyone is raving about the BMW 1-series: a big engine in a small RWD car... from 1978 And two 4wd that were 'game changers' in their own way:
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Clement
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It's what it says on the tin. A bit too far ahead perhaps, most ironically...
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You can't have a thread like this without a bit of Tucker Torpedo
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Mar 15, 2014 10:43:27 GMT
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1980s styling in 1970
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1953 Minor (Long term project) PT Cruiser
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adam73bgt
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Cars ahead of their timeadam73bgt
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Mar 15, 2014 10:44:37 GMT
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Renault Avantime It's what it says on the tin. A bit too far ahead perhaps, most ironically... I saw one of these in a car park yesterday and I was thinking it is ahead of its time, I just couldn't work out when its time is
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