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Jul 28, 2014 17:15:58 GMT
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Who's had one? I've caught the Swedish bug and I'm now after a new project, they seem to be very tuneable even on the standard internals? Any information would be hugely appreciated  Ben. |
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Jul 28, 2014 17:51:41 GMT
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I briefly had a GM era 900 turbo. Bought it for my top gear style stag do...£400 with 140k on the clock.
10 countries, 5 days, 2500 odd hard miles, and it was faultless. Engines are apparently bullet proof, was a touch rusty in the rear inner arches though.
If your talking pre-GM I can't help you, these were well out of my price range for the trip.
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Jul 28, 2014 18:22:54 GMT
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Yeah I should mention I'm talking pre GM, C900!
Sounds like fun though, bet that was a laugh!
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Jul 28, 2014 22:04:08 GMT
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My dad had a 900 turbo 16vS, best car he ever had.
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Jul 29, 2014 10:23:00 GMT
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I had many cars. My 1985 900 3drs Turbo was and still is one of my favourite cars ever. Beautiful lines and a great car to drive.
Would love to own one again.
cheers
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Jul 29, 2014 12:14:24 GMT
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I have had 6 "classic" 900 turbos. I still have 2 and some newer Saabs. The old ones are great, if you can find a cheap one (which is pretty easy still) check for rust issues on the inner arches and everything else is easily dealt with. The gear boxes don't like abuse but the car is very easy to work on, full pressure turbos are 175bhp out the box, 10p can up that to 185hp no worries and there are lots of bits and stuff out there. The projects section on UKSaabs is a good place for inspiration.
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1993 3dr Black 900 T16_s (Trionic 5)
1983 Saab 900 T16 (Trionic 5)
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Jul 29, 2014 14:37:12 GMT
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In a fit of baader-meinhoff pique, I've spotted three late model Saab wagons today... they're aging well
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Top grammar tips!
Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated
Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Jul 29, 2014 17:30:28 GMT
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I have had 6 "classic" 900 turbos. I still have 2 and some newer Saabs. The old ones are great, if you can find a cheap one (which is pretty easy still) check for rust issues on the inner arches and everything else is easily dealt with. The gear boxes don't like abuse but the car is very easy to work on, full pressure turbos are 175bhp out the box, 10p can up that to 185hp no worries and there are lots of bits and stuff out there. The projects section on UKSaabs is a good place for inspiration. I'd forgotten about UKSaabs, I'm a member on there as well! Will have a nosey around and see what I can find. I don't want a super clean example due to what I have in mind for it, somewhere around 300bhp should see me right Apparently they can be made to handle very well too? |
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Jul 29, 2014 18:48:51 GMT
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Just rolling along
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Jul 29, 2014 19:45:23 GMT
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Top grammar tips!
Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated
Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Jul 30, 2014 12:58:11 GMT
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I have had 6 "classic" 900 turbos. I still have 2 and some newer Saabs. The old ones are great, if you can find a cheap one (which is pretty easy still) check for rust issues on the inner arches and everything else is easily dealt with. The gear boxes don't like abuse but the car is very easy to work on, full pressure turbos are 175bhp out the box, 10p can up that to 185hp no worries and there are lots of bits and stuff out there. The projects section on UKSaabs is a good place for inspiration. I'd forgotten about UKSaabs, I'm a member on there as well! Will have a nosey around and see what I can find. I don't want a super clean example due to what I have in mind for it, somewhere around 300bhp should see me right Apparently they can be made to handle very well too? Don't do it, not 300bhp on a standard gearbox or you will kill it. 300bhp is easily achievable but the gearbox sits under the engine as part of the sump and can flex enough to start un-syncronising the gears with too much power. It will then rapidly eat its own teeth and turn gummy. I am converting my C900 to T5 with bits from a 9000 Aero and could easily re-map it to stupid amounts of power but will settle for around 230-245bhp with progressive boost to try and keep the gearbox where the guys at Trolhatten designed it to be. If you win the lottery you might be able to find a Chillcast gearbox or use steel strengthening plates and weld extra aluminium into various areas to keep the flex to a minimum but I have even seen £3k gearboxes destroyed by power in the high 300's. The gearbox really is the only weakness to the C900 but they still make fantastic track day cars for very little money that handle like they are on rails. |
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Jul 30, 2014 14:00:01 GMT
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Gearbox could never really handle even 185bhp, being mounted underneath engine compromised it somewhat. It's the final drive pinion bearing that usually goes - mine let go at 137K which I suppose isn't too bad...
They normally give lots of warning before going, starts with a quiet whine in 5th then eventually howling in all gears.
If you want big big power your better off with a 9-3 or something else with a decent tranny. I think Autocar even broke a brand new turbo trying a brutal 0-60 test.
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2014 14:03:55 GMT by chrissyb
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Jul 30, 2014 18:20:04 GMT
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Poo news! That's put a stinker in the plans.
By the design of the engine I'm assuming there's no way of retro fitting a gearbox from a later 9-3 or something?
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Jul 30, 2014 20:58:03 GMT
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A 9000 might be a better bet for a cheap way to big reliable power
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Jul 30, 2014 21:14:07 GMT
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A 9000 might be a better bet for a cheap way to big reliable power It's the image I was after, however I think the 9k could pull off the sleeper look as well.. |
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9000 Aero is on my wish list. I have a 9-3 Aero at the moment that I am trying to get rid of but it just doesnt want me to let it go. 9000 are better built, probably faster, feel nicer and get good fuel economy, all whilst packing 235bhp from stock. and those seats......  |
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1993 3dr Black 900 T16_s (Trionic 5)
1983 Saab 900 T16 (Trionic 5)
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Jul 31, 2014 17:00:09 GMT
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9000 Aero is on my wish list. I have a 9-3 Aero at the moment that I am trying to get rid of but it just doesnt want me to let it go. 9000 are better built, probably faster, feel nicer and get good fuel economy, all whilst packing 235bhp from stock. and those seats...... My oh my they do look comfy! Were the 9k's similar in specs like the later 9-3's? Whereas the only real difference is what map they ran? So instead of forking out for an Aero, could I use a CSE as a base instead? |
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9000 Aero is on my wish list. I have a 9-3 Aero at the moment that I am trying to get rid of but it just doesnt want me to let it go. 9000 are better built, probably faster, feel nicer and get good fuel economy, all whilst packing 235bhp from stock. and those seats...... My oh my they do look comfy! Were the 9k's similar in specs like the later 9-3's? Whereas the only real difference is what map they ran? So instead of forking out for an Aero, could I use a CSE as a base instead? You could indeed use a CSE or any other variant such as the 9000 Anniversary as a good base to build from. The only downside would be the lack of Aero seats which must be amongst the most supportive and comfortable seats available in any car. I recently borrowed a 9000 CSE that had a larger turbo fitted and remapped to 375bhp. It had 168,000 miles on the clock and was as scruffy as they come but that car could shift. It was a real sleeper and something that could be replicated on a very tight budget. |
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