vulgalour
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Oct 20, 2014 17:12:05 GMT
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Rough template for use with mocking up anything suitable. I'm going to be trying out some Fulvia lights, as we've got one in the unit. Not the cheapest option, but they are a lovely design. Here's a mock-up of those two things together. I like it. Fulvia lights of this sort are around the £100 per side mark, typically.
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2014 19:36:43 GMT by vulgalour
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Oct 20, 2014 20:01:59 GMT
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Try this Alfa-Romeo Alfetta rear lights
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Click picture for more
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vulgalour
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Oct 20, 2014 20:25:59 GMT
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That appears to be a purple Lamborghini. Not that I'm complaining, you understand.
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vulgalour
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Oct 20, 2014 20:41:48 GMT
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Alfetta lights, these are my favourite variation. They're a very tall unit so I think you'd have to get creative and split them half into the boot. They're also not a flat unit, top and bottom tilt away from one another on the vertical plane. Then I realised I only need half the lenses and ooooo....
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I think you may be onto something in that bottom shot
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Remade In Australia thereimaginarium.com.au
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brc76
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How about corvair lights?
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2014 2:53:38 GMT by brc76
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vulgalour
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Oct 21, 2014 18:01:29 GMT
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The more round lights I see the less they work, it's a shame because there's a lot of round lights I adore the design of, especially from American tin.
Been looking more into the Alfetta lights and I think they might be the solution. The bulb holders/reflectors can be cut in half easily, the lenses are easy to get hold of if a little expensive and because the bulbs sit vertically rather than horizontally they encroach minimally into the boot, making LEDs even more of a viable option.
The last thing I need to do is get measurements and, if they're as I want them to be, get a pair of US spec lenses so they're the correct colour. Most of the ones I've found for sale are in America too, which was a bit surprising.
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Mike
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Oct 21, 2014 18:54:17 GMT
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bmw 2002 rear lights?
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Oct 21, 2014 23:19:17 GMT
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Any addition has to be thought of as part of a whole surely ? It could be a beautiful thing, why go down the parts bin route ? If its not right, it's wrong, an all that. Wish I could stop time for a few days, I'd love to rip into this for you.
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vulgalour
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Oct 21, 2014 23:49:51 GMT
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I've spent two years, just about, trying to find a solution to this problem. I doubt it's an easy one to resolve, or rather it is an easy one and I've just not fallen over the solution yet.
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79cord
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Oct 23, 2014 10:55:24 GMT
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Interesting to see how Lamborghini transformed the early Alfetta sedan lights with a new outer trim surround, I hadn't recognized them. Glad you went away from the big round lights as I never thought they would suit it, though dual (per side) would at least echo the headlights. I like the last concept but agree you might be better going custom if it would mean they would fit the car better, possibly with some generic truck/trailer led rear lights trimmed &/or fitted under a custom clear or lightly tinted lens to smooth or edit the visual shape. thinking.. Not that they would have to look anything like these by the time you finished with them. Though unfortunately they got me thinking: Sorry
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2014 11:01:00 GMT by 79cord
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Oct 23, 2014 11:12:19 GMT
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To me, I think that the light units that are specifically for the Princess look the best as they fit with the lines of the rear od the car already... I cannot think of anything that would look better than the standard units in terms of design cohesion! Anything else would just not fit in quite right...
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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79cord
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Oct 23, 2014 11:19:08 GMT
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richp
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Oct 23, 2014 13:43:40 GMT
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Oct 23, 2014 15:30:35 GMT
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I'm on my phone so this pic will be tiny or massive lol Ones on right Would have to change boot lid though
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2014 15:31:17 GMT by joem83
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Oct 23, 2014 20:04:12 GMT
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Thats a 1987 Buick Skylark Or a 1985 Pontiac Fiero
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2014 20:06:27 GMT by joem83
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vulgalour
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Oct 23, 2014 21:27:18 GMT
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In the same vain as some of the above I was reminded of an optional rear on early 90s Mustangs. Edited to add: also remembered the XJ220 rear end, another fairly easy look to achieve. Disregarding the cost of whatever I do, I've been looking instead at the amount of work involved as this is a job I'm going to have to undertake myself. The LED strips idea is likely the best. If I measure the panel and then build a new light unit on the desk before welding it into the rear panel for a flush fit I get minimal fuss and a smart end result. Done right I can even use the original boot trims to keep things tidy on the inside, which would be more difficult if I grafted another car's lights in. It also put me back to the front end treatment where I really want hidden headlights, something that would match the rear panel treatment really well. By fitting either some fine narrow rectangular hole grille or more traditional tubing painted satin black (or maybe chromed) in the recess I can hide the lights without any massive effort involved and for fairly minimal expense. This thread has been really useful, I've seen a lot of ideas, some of which haven't worked that I thought would (all the lovely round lights) and some of which have worked exceptionally well that I hadn't even considered (the fantastic GTO rear lights). Top work everyone, and if there's more ideas do chuck them in the pot because this is a superb reference spot for me.
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2014 21:29:57 GMT by vulgalour
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Oct 23, 2014 22:59:52 GMT
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What about LED lights hidden behinds a full width red perspex cover so you cant see the lights. I cant find the concept car I have seen them on, but something like this:
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vulgalour
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Oct 23, 2014 23:29:39 GMT
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I think I have an idea as difficult to do as grafting a different car's lights in, but that would provide a better end result. There's a few ideas I'm liking that could be combined in an affordable way and wouldn't be terribly difficult to create using off-the-shelf components. First, I need to cut out the rear valance no higher than the low middle section of the boot lid right to the edge of the valance-to-wing seam line. I then measure a suitable sheet of steel to go back in the gap and cut out slots to fit LED strip lights from the reverse side in red, orange and clear as needed. There also needs to be a pair of reflectors let in which can be liberated from spare damaged Princess light lenses I already have. Once that's done, I weld the panel in keeping a depth equal to a sheet of suitable polycarb or acrylic sheeting, paint it all a relevant colour and prepare the new sheet. Ideally I'd copy the Skylark design with a black centre rectangle set into red, this can be done with careful masking and tint spray, or with tinting film. A chrome or aluminium U channel trim around the sheet would give a slightly more factory look before the panel is then bonded into place. This would give me the full compliment of lights and the option to make them very large and very visible, which is quite appealing to me. I can hide all the wiring and LEDs and whatnot inside the boot by just fitting the original trims. Even the line of the bootlid can be resolved by reinstating the badges in a location I actually like and makes sense. I think we may have a real and actual solution for me.
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mikeymk
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I was thinking of MK1 Manta rear lights with the round ones, then I realised the later Manta lights would probably look better.
Ideally you'd find a donor car so you could weld the Manta/Cavalier metal in for a perfect fit - the curve must be very similar.
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