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Oct 30, 2014 12:51:15 GMT
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I may have the chance to buy a RHD 1970 911 e which hasn't been driven since 1986 with sporto box and a whole lotta rust for £7k. Inner/outer sills, inner front arches, all four wings, lower doors before even scraping the surface. Would I be a fool to walk away from this or might it be a lucky escape? Its most definitely a dream car of mine.
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2014 12:52:13 GMT by 8bitash
1970 Porsche 911E
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2002 Peugeot Partner 1.9sdi
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Oct 30, 2014 13:03:04 GMT
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how much would the car break for?
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Oct 30, 2014 13:10:31 GMT
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How much do you enjoy welding and how much are repair panels? Early Porsches certainly aren't getting any cheaper...
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2014 13:10:52 GMT by discostew
67 VW Split bus
69 Beetle Cab
96 Jeep Cherokee XJ Sport
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Oct 30, 2014 13:12:03 GMT
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I can't see you losing money no matter what but I could see is 20k++ being spent on it easy, even with a lot of your own labour. Also too you may as well look at converting it to manual. Regardless, it would be a nice project to have even if it was a slow project. Go for it!
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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Oct 30, 2014 13:13:03 GMT
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Ah, you only live once.
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Oct 30, 2014 13:18:51 GMT
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If you've got deep pockets and a shed load of time, go for it  |
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Oct 30, 2014 13:22:33 GMT
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It would be a long old project. Pricing up a few panels is pretty eye watering but i'm thinking even if once I get it home and stripped and realise its way too much for me there will be someone out there that will take it on at that price or more.
The sporto box is something thats slightly concerning me, i've heard if they're used right they're great boxes but if they break thats it. No parts availability.
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1970 Porsche 911E
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2002 Peugeot Partner 1.9sdi
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Oct 30, 2014 14:12:07 GMT
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Having just looked on ebay, blimey! they have shot up in price since I last looked.
Buy it!
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Oct 30, 2014 15:03:38 GMT
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You need to take a look on DDK and this thread www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44375This gives you an idea of the things involved in restoring a classic Porsche. Ok, so the one your looking at is a 1970 but just take a look at the state of the car upon delivery on page 5! To give you an idea of the costs involved the guy who bought that is going to sell his 996 GT3 to fund the resto! |
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Oct 30, 2014 15:50:43 GMT
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You need to take a look on DDK and this thread www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44375This gives you an idea of the things involved in restoring a classic Porsche. Ok, so the one your looking at is a 1970 but just take a look at the state of the car upon delivery on page 5! To give you an idea of the costs involved the guy who bought that is going to sell his 996 GT3 to fund the resto! You have to wonder, why bother when they are that far gone! Unless I am missing something & that Porsche is very rare? |
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Oct 30, 2014 16:16:09 GMT
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I'd avoid it unless I was looking at breaking it for more than that, and could afford the time/space energy to do so.
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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shin2chin
Part of things
Making curse word cars slightly better
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Oct 30, 2014 17:43:50 GMT
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If you've got the time, skills and like a challenge then go for it. As already said it will get expensive, your looking at conservatively over £1400 for the panels you've mentioned and it will most likely need more. Once you add in any interior, suspension, gearbox, engine, exhaust, paint etc its all adding up when you can get a runner for 15k if you look around. Would love a 911 myself but will have to be content with my 924  |
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1977 PORSCHE 2.0na 924
1974 VW Beetle 1600
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quackshot
Posted a lot
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Oct 30, 2014 17:52:47 GMT
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What's the phrase?
Buy a decent Porsche 911 for £20k or buy a cack one and spend the money fixing it. Either way it'll cost £20k
I don't think I'd want a 911 project unless it was really really really worth it.
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Oct 30, 2014 18:30:43 GMT
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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Oct 30, 2014 19:17:59 GMT
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You gotta answer that for yourself. Definitely a head-or-heart decision. Could be epic if you have the balls to see it through, could be an expensive PITA.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:24:35 GMT
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i think its fairly pointless if you're just going to restore it to stock. just go out and buy a good one to start with, itll be worth more as its not been reconstituted from a pile of scrap, and itll be usable straight off.
but, if youre going to chop it up and go custom, thats a whole different matter, as youre not devaluing an expensive car by hacking at it.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:31:52 GMT
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I believe that to replace sills etc the car needs to be put on a jig.
I had a look at one of the last aircooled at a dealers and wife agreed I could have it as I had enough cash in my savings account. Read up about them as my dream car and came to the conclusion that buy the best you can afford is what everybody recommends as a project can cost more in the long run. The one I was interested in, on further inspection, turned out to have been involved in a minor frontal at some time or other and non Porsche repair (ie normal bodyshop). The opinion was such reduced the value quite substantially so whilst you might see them for £20K a DIY repaired, even to a good standard, isn't worth anything like that. Also remember they are a supercar and as such even routine parts like tyres, exhaust, and such are a lot dearer than an ordinary cooking car. If such expenditure crops up in day to day running then it isn't so bad but when presented with a car that has been standing for 28 years the costs could be eye watering.
Yes - I'd be tempted too but when my brain kicked in, and I started to be realistic, then I'd have to admit I couldn't afford to restore never mind run one.
The other week I bought a scooter off a chap who had a 8 year old Porsche 911 convertible he'd had from new. It was something like his 5 or 6th new 911 ! I told him about the one I was interested in that I could just afford and what he said made sense -if you can only JUST afford to buy then you can't afford to own / run never mind restore one.
If you want something that looks like a 911 then what about a Boxster with a 911 body conversion ?
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Oct 30, 2014 19:45:33 GMT
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Blimey, sounds epic...!!! I think that seeing as the price of these cars is rising quicker than I can believe (!!!) you'd have to give it some serious thought... I'd price up what needs replacing first though as any 'saving' in buying a car in the state you describe could quickly go out of the window! If it were me I'd leave it but then you're not me and if this is a dream car you may just have to go for it...!!! Do your homework thoroughly and then make a decision... I'm sure it'll all be ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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Oct 30, 2014 23:18:18 GMT
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Sure the fat guy in Wangan Midnight completely rebuilt one in a month and he was an anime. No problem for a real live people like you!
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Any news on this 8bitash?
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