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Hello..This had probably been asked before.
was thinking about cutting my springs since there are no coilover kits about and lowering springs are too expensive..
soo has anyone cut there springs with good results..what did it ride like after..any tips and tricks cheers
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stealthstylz
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Chopped them lots, mainly in situ because I'm a. Lazy and b. Lazy. Mild chopping upto 2 coils ish ride OK, most cars where I've chopped 3 or more are either on the bump stops or the sprng rate goes so high the ride suffers. Depends how much youre willing to sacrifice to look awesome.
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markbognor
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Which is worse, cutting springs in converse, or splitting logs in slippers?
My daily has been on cut springs for several years, and my daily before that, and the one before that. The most recent two suffered a ride like a dingy in a storm.
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Hi cheers for the input guys...I only want to drop it around 2 inch on the front and 1 inch on the back..The front seems to sit really high since I put 15"wheels on
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Thing is tho hot rodders of old couldn't go out and but spring kits or coilovers.
aslong as springs are cut properly and not cut down to much then surely there no different to lowering springs
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Thing is tho hot rodders of old couldn't go out and but spring kits or coilovers. aslong as springs are cut properly and not cut down to much then surely there no different to lowering springs If you put lower springs on a car (within reason) it will pass an mot, if you cut them it's a fail, there is a very good reason for that. Not strictly try...aslong as the springs seat properly..and don't fall when the car is jacked up then no reason to fail it |
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stealthstylz
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LOL another ill informed person has to jump in spouting the usual Bullplop.
There is no law (MOT or C&U) against cut springs.
The MOT rule states that they must be seated correctly after the car is jacked up. Nothing is mentioned of them coming off the seats when the car is up in the air. A few of my cars have had the springs cable tied to the upper spring cup, they dislocate when jacked up but dropped back into position when it was lowered down. Theyve got to pass it.
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LOL another ill informed person has to jump in spouting the usual Bullplop. There is no law (MOT or C&U) against cut springs. The MOT rule states that they must be seated correctly after the car is jacked up. Nothing is mentioned of them coming off the seats when the car is up in the air. A few of my cars have had the springs cable tied to the upper spring cup, they dislocate when jacked up but dropped back into position when it was lowered down. Theyve got to pass it. Lol my point exactly....was mainly seeing how ride quality would be affected.. and peopls expirence with cut springs.. |
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LOL another ill informed person has to jump in spouting the usual Bullplop. There is no law (MOT or C&U) against cut springs. The MOT rule states that they must be seated correctly after the car is jacked up. Nothing is mentioned of them coming off the seats when the car is up in the air. A few of my cars have had the springs cable tied to the upper spring cup, they dislocate when jacked up but dropped back into position when it was lowered down. Theyve got to pass it. Lol indeed what a c0ck who's a cock ?? |
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It would probably fail an mot if the spring dislocated with the suspension at full droop, but there's no reason otherwise. The other danger of cutting a spring is that because you've shortened the available travel there's a possibility of the damper reaching the end of its travel. This is very bad for handling! However, in cutting the spring you will have increased its rate, (stiffness, ooer), so this will, to some extent offset the likely hood of the damper bottoming out. Once you have the suspension apart it's a ten minute job to work out if cutting a coil or two of will lead to any unwanted touching, rubbing or binding...
Get the grinder out.
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Cheers stealthstylz, you got there first!
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By what I can make out from reading online and other sources.if you cut the springs to drop more than 2 inches then you run the risk of hitting bump stops.shock bottoming out etch...
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How much would/will you be cutting them by?
Agree with the above comments though, 9 times out of 10 it's a good result.. (from my experience anyway)
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How much would/will you be cutting them by? Agree with the above comments though, 9 times out of 10 it's a good result.. (from my experience anyway) I'm after a 2 inch drop on the front and about a 1 inch drop on the back |
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vulgalour
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I gather there are some springs you shouldn't cut because they won't seat properly and it won't work, so there are limitations. If they're an old fashioned straight sided, straight top-and-bottomed spring without any odd progression in them then it appears they're okay to lose a coil or two off safely.
If in doubt, don't do it. Research it until doubt is eliminated, then do it.
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2" is quite a reduction on the length of a standard damper rod. You need to do some measuring if that's how much you want to drop the car by. Also, if you still want it to handle well you have to look at what it's going to do to the angle of the suspension arms, camber and caster change, etc. I think you'll find that although a lot of RR members do cut springs, there's a little more work and research involved in most cases than just buzzing away at them with a grinder. What car is it, can you find any other owners that have done the same thing that you could compare notes with?
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Last Edit: Feb 1, 2015 23:29:43 GMT by spartacus: grrr, Google keyboard!
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It's a 1986 toyota corolla ae80..
iv seen a few lowered ones but never had any info
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Ouch at the coilovers lol |
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I've just had a quick look too. A quick search turned up two sets both at less than the above, so you're spoilt for choice! There's no telling what the ride will be like, but it's unlikely to be worse than cut springs, also they 'should' fit and work properly. I was sort of under the impression that you owned a super rare car for which no after-market parts were available.:-) Whatever you do, be sure to post some pics.
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