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Jul 26, 2015 10:12:51 GMT
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You'll also need the v5c to be in the name of the person collecting it and they'll need proof of id. Friend had his newish moped stolen whilst he was on the start of a 2 week holiday but it was recovered straight away and taken to compound. His father went to collect and pay fees but was told only owner / friend could do so. By the time he came back form holiday fees exceeded the value of the moped so he signed it over to the storage company. They first checked whether legal and it was clearly stated in the original document given to father on sons behalf by Police that registered keep / owner was only person who could collect
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barty
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Jul 26, 2015 13:27:29 GMT
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sounds like a minefield. think i might just forget it and let the offender who owns it to sort it out. Too much aggro for my tiny brain to work out, after all i was only trying to help him out but for the amount of trouble he can sort it out as part of his punishment
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Jul 26, 2015 20:01:54 GMT
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Not in my experience. I've ended up having to do this a couple of times in the last couple of years. You can get someone else's motor out of impound if you have docs that cover you to drive it. And, of course, the readies to pay them. You probably need to take the docs to the cop shop though, not the yard. If it was just down to the yard there would be all sorts of opportunities for nonsense so Plod will give you a stamped form to take to the yard and you pay the yard directly. Law changed a few years ago. Whilst you might have insurance to drive vehicles not belonging to you the actual vehicle is required to be insured by somebody else and if driver is banned then that won't be applicable as insurance will probably be voided. www.gov.uk/vehicle-insurance/uninsured-vehiclesYou being covered, by extension of your own policy, is different to the vehicle being insured as now required for every car on the roads. I assume since introduction of ANPR cameras. If registered keeper doesn't have a valid policy in place, no matter who is driving and their 100% legal entitlement to do so, then the keeper gets done for no insurance ! Not sure how trade policies fit in this law change though. Hi, a mate who is a motor trader was asked by someone he knew if he could get his car out of the pound on his traders policy when he checked they said "no, only if a policy in keepers name is in force" Colin
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Jul 27, 2015 13:49:54 GMT
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I've picked up a "few" impounded vehaical on my trade policy, mind you they were from a police pound with traffic officers in charge who actually know the law, last one had no MOT and required a 4 wheel lift recovery (no wheels on the ground) i picked it up on my recovery truck and had to provide proof i was insured on the truck not the vehical i was collecting.
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mikeymk
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Jul 29, 2015 16:52:20 GMT
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The problem the police had was they were impounding cars because there was no insurance cover whilst it was being used on a public road, the idea being that this forced the owner to get insured in order to get their car back - but what was happening is the driver just got a mate to pull the car out the compound on their third party entitlement.
The law changed to stop this, but then owners used the trade. So the law changed again.. And i think they have all avenues pretty well covered now, so the owner can only get the car back by being insured.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:01:56 GMT
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I'd give this up as an idea. The vehicle can only be recovered where valid insurance for that vehicle (not a temporary Dayinsure type policy) in the name of the keeper is evident All the info will be on the papers he was given.
It'll get crushed, they never sell insurance seizures on by any means.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Jul 29, 2015 17:39:17 GMT
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I hope it's crushed, recycled into baked bean cans, beans eaten, recycled into a car and then crushed again! And then recycled into a drunk driving crushing machine
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Jul 31, 2015 21:55:23 GMT
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It'll get crushed, they never sell insurance seizures on by any means. Some force areas do sell seized car via auction.
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Jul 31, 2015 22:19:25 GMT
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Cheers for posting that link, I never know about it I will save it to give to customers as some are too dumb to have it explained to them at the roadside. This part is new... Hampshire Constabulary will allow an owner or keeper to sell a vehicle after it has been seized. In such cases, the owner or Registered Keeper at the time of the seizure must attend the station together with the new owner. The claimant will be the previous owner; the new owner will be the third party claimant. We will require that the DVLA new keeper procedure is complied with. If the vehicle is sold to a genuine motor trader the V5C(3) Motor Traders Supplement will be completed, the previous keeper must send the V5C(3) to DVLA (or it will be sent to the DVLA by the police). The new keeper will be required to register the vehicle in their name, even if they are a Motor Trader - Please note the comments about "trade" insurance and seized vehicles. The police will notify the DVLA of the correct keeper of the vehicle in the event that the DVLA record is inaccurate
It was the case that the car would only be released to the person named on the V5C
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Take none mate if this car will do you a heap of good get it .
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barty
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forgotten all about it now. Just funny how some folk are happy to see the car crushed because it was owned by a drink driver, personally i don't understand that as we are all car nuts i would have thought the car would be worth saving, i mean we don't say i hope that thief gets his car crushed because he used it on a burgary or that car should be crushed because it was used by the driver who was caught speeding in it. Personally i hate drink drivers and thank god we have a justice system to deal with them. The 17 month ban is nothing to the amount it will cost him in insurance over the next ten years plus the hassle of not having a car for over a year and now the amount of money he had invested in the car ie the cost of him buying it ( about £3K) as it will get crushed now as i cant/wont help him
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Crushing the car is a stupid, pointless waste. Should just be confiscated and sold on by auction or whatever. The crime (no insurance, drink driving, drug dealing or whatever) is not the car's fault and the effect is the same on the owner - he's lost it.
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people are quick to judge, no one but the OP and the offender know the circumstances behind the arrest, he may have been only slightly over the limit, or it may have been the day after a drinking session and alcohol was still running through his system but he believed. as most people do, that he was fine to drive. Most people don't realise that a single pint of 'stella' will put you over the limit, hence the recent introduction of '4.0%' beers. In 1999 i was banned for drink driving, i had had one pint of Stella and left the pub to drive home, believing i had had my one drink of the evening... i was stopped, breathalized and found to be over the limit. I was arrested and taken to the police station, the arresting officer was very apologetic as i had been stopped routinely and he said he did not believe i was over the limit, but had to breathalize me as a matter of course. I was again breathalized on the machine at the station, they did it 3 times as my levels were minimal and were dropping, but, i was still slightly over. So i was given the choice to wait for a doctor to get a blood test, i agreed and the doctor arrived shortly after ( he was already in the station testing someone else ) the doc took my blood, i was again breathalized by the officers and found to be under the limit so was driven back to my car and allowed to drive home. All was well....seemingly, however, when the results came back i had 102 microgrammes of alcohol in my blood, the limit is 80 which is one unit, so for the sake of one single pint, i was a 1/4 over the limit, i got only a £50 fine ( i think they felt sorry for me ) and a year ban. and a DR10 on my licence for 10 years, which meant my insurance doubled for those 10 years.... Now i don't have ANYTHING to drink if my car is being used, i don't even drive the following day if i have had a drink the night before. so as some of you have immediately jumped on the 'lynch the drink driver' thing, you should maybe think of the circumstances surrounding the crime. but saying that it IS a crime, you make your choices and you live with the consequences... so feel free to have a pop at me if you feel you need to , god knows i've had to deal with some curse word about over the years about it. just the OP had a question and a few of you ripped him, not his fault, you should've played nice
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Aug 28, 2015 12:40:59 GMT
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Old thread excavation sorry but surely you get 1-day insurance for £30..
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Aug 28, 2015 12:53:26 GMT
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Old thread excavation sorry but surely you get 1-day insurance for £30.. The certificate, which Plod or the impound people will want to see, will clearly state on it that it can't be used to release a motor. I think they also say on the Ts&Cs on the websites that the car must not be impounded.
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barty
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not thought about this for ages now as far as i know the car could be crushed or even still impounded and gathering costs every day. don't get me wrong i would have loved to have got the car but just suppose it was a classic car, lets say a mk1 lotus cortina or something like that, then how would everyone react to it then. I bet not one of you would say " i hope the car gets crushed"
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Sept 2, 2015 20:03:04 GMT
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Ok so I'm with the no drink driving bit, crush the car as it's just a focus, but supposing he was driving a mk1 escort, a mk 1 cooper, golf etc........I think a few attitudes would change then?? Just saying.
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Sept 2, 2015 20:03:38 GMT
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Ok so I'm with the no drink driving bit, crush the car as it's just a focus, but supposing he was driving a mk1 escort, a mk 1 cooper, golf etc........I think a few attitudes would change then?? Just saying.
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Sept 2, 2015 20:48:17 GMT
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Crushing the car is mindless vandalism. It's all part of the global conspiracy to make us all buy new cars every two years like the scrapage scam was. It's not the car's fault the driver got caught. I'm fairly sure that here in New Zealand many, if not most, police confiscated cars get sold on even though the law allows for them to be crushed in some circumstances.
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