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Jul 26, 2015 19:33:43 GMT
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hi, i know this is a long shot asking on here but............................. i've got a 2.4 surf engine and auto box, is there anyway to change this to 2wd? i have been told that parts from a lexus could fit?    |
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Jul 26, 2015 19:57:37 GMT
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Lexus's - lexi? Are all autos aren't they? Unless that engine was free I would find something else they have a shocking reputation for doing heads and gaskets
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Jul 26, 2015 21:56:58 GMT
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Have to agree with dodgerover, not a good engine. However, if you're determined to use it, the flywheel, clutch and gearbox from a UK spec Hilux 2wd will fit it...
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squonk
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Jul 26, 2015 22:51:50 GMT
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Unless that engine was free I would find something else they have a shocking reputation for doing heads and gaskets Have to agree with dodgerover, not a good engine. Similar comments were made in the build thread. If you just don't want to have to get around the fact that the front prop output on the HiLux transfer box is the opposite side to a Land Rover transfer box you could just leave the prop off. These boxes are not permanent four wheel drive so it not being there will not be a problem. As for changing the box, I believe that all north - south Toyota engines from that period share common bellhousing bolt positions so a combination of parts from several cars should do the trick. Making the electronics all work might be a bit of a headache though. Also don't forget a gearbox and torque convertor from a petrol engine will have shift points and torque convertor stall speed that are not suited to the torque curve of a diesel engine. Chances are that with a low revving diesel engine using a gearbox from a high revving petrol it may never get into top gear!!! Bear in mind that if you remove the transfer box you loose the electronic road speed pickup and the autobox ECU needs that signal to make it work properly. You also need the switchgear to change between power and economy modes as well as the overdrive switch and the four wheel drive switch. The lever sticking up from the transfer box is purely for the range selection. |
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Last Edit: Jul 26, 2015 23:01:27 GMT by squonk
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Jul 26, 2015 23:51:58 GMT
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Hi, the front prop flange on the gearbox is the right side for the Land Rover, however the rear flange is in the middle and would make for an acute propshaft angle to the rear diff especially how close it appears to be.
The transfer box could be taken off the back of the main box and fit a tailhousing from a 2wd application, but you might find the main g/box mainshaft is different between 4wd and 2wd. It might be easier to find a 2wd box and fit that, it would also help with rear propshaft angle.
Colin
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squonk
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Hi, the front prop flange on the gearbox is the right side for the Land Rover, however the rear flange is in the middle and would make for an acute propshaft angle to the rear diff especially how close it appears to be. The transfer box could be taken off the back of the main box and fit a tailhousing from a 2wd application, but you might find the main g/box mainshaft is different between 4wd and 2wd. It might be easier to find a 2wd box and fit that, it would also help with rear propshaft angle. Colin My mistake, I was thinking P38 for some reason. They are on opposite sides to Series/Defender/Classic axles. Maybe a solution for the rear axle would be to use a HiLux rear axle. The prop will be in the right place and the gearing will suit the engine/gearbox combination. If the tailshaft housing is changed one would need to be used that has a compatible speed sensor. |
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2004 Chevrolet Avalanche Z71
2005 Mercedes CLK320 Cabriolet
1996 Mercedes C180 Elegance Auto Saloon
1996 Rover 620Ti (Dead fuel pump)
1992 Toyota HiLux Surf
1987 Range Rover Vogue (Rusty)
1992 Range Rover Vogue SE (More Rusty)
2006 Chrysler Grand Voyager
2008 Corsa 1.4 Design
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Lexus v8s into surfs, is a fairly popular swap, part of the changeover is fitting the surf transfer case to the Lexus box, so quite possible you may be able to fit lexus tail in place of transfer box. Google lexstreme and lexsurf, might provide some information
Ttfn Glenn
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Jul 27, 2015 14:36:45 GMT
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the head has been changed so hopefully no problems there.
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That transmission and transfer case assembly is taking up half your cab and about 25% of your already limited power output. I would personally get rid of the whole lot and find something else.
As mentioned above, you really need a rear axle with the diff centre in the middle, to avoid a nasty driveshaft angle. Whilst doing this swap it would make sense to change to a 2wd transmission out of a Hilux and the matching axle and driveshaft from the Hilux. By this point you could of course have started with a Hilux chassis to begin with!
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