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Dec 19, 2015 12:45:41 GMT
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Much in the same way many Mondeo ST200 were down as '2.0 Si' models - they are still officially ST200s. How did they get around engine size on registering, the mk2 mondeo ST200 was 2.5? Ford did in fact make a mondeo 2.5 si model Well done for spotting my deliberate second mistake! ;-) (You wouldn't think that I owned an ST200, and was the Editor of Fast Ford for eight years! In my defence, I'd just got in after a night out, and really should have gone on the computer! They were registered as Si not ST200 in most instances.)
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Dec 19, 2015 12:54:00 GMT
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ever seen a 1.1 CVH Escort? I know they sold them on the continent, but never certain if they were actually sold here briefly...
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Dec 19, 2015 13:53:58 GMT
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Never seen one of them... Ive got the 1.1 OHV and an older garage salesman told me they were really unpopular and hard to sell... Although mine has some carb problem at the moment its pulls really well and starts pretty well etc... is he talking BS?
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Dec 19, 2015 14:06:34 GMT
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Never seen one of them... Ive got the 1.1 OHV and an older garage salesman told me they were really unpopular and hard to sell... Although mine has some carb problem at the moment its pulls really well and starts pretty well etc... is he talking BS? Must admit i never realised Ford put the Kent/Valencia engine in the MK3 Escort until i saw yours,must be pretty rare now ! I had a MK1 Fiesta with one and it went suprisingly well. I can imagine they weren't that popular,the CVH was new and sparkly and the 1.1 probably offered little benefit in terms of mpg over a 1.3 CVH. Amazing really how long lived the Kent engine was from pre crossflow to Valencia. Have you a VV (variable venturi) carb on it ? These were a bit problematic even when they were new. Weber still do a conversion kit i think.
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Dec 19, 2015 14:23:50 GMT
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How did they get around engine size on registering, the mk2 mondeo ST200 was 2.5? Ford did in fact make a mondeo 2.5 si model Well done for spotting my deliberate second mistake! ;-) (You wouldn't think that I owned an ST200, and was the Editor of Fast Ford for eight years! In my defence, I'd just got in after a night out, and really should have gone on the computer! They were registered as Si not ST200 in most instances.) Haha I've done that one :-) Was it an ST200 estate? Are you the same Dan from fast ford who had the blue project 3 door? If so did that motor ever get finished?
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Dec 19, 2015 14:49:17 GMT
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Never seen one of them... Ive got the 1.1 OHV and an older garage salesman told me they were really unpopular and hard to sell... Although mine has some carb problem at the moment its pulls really well and starts pretty well etc... is he talking BS? Must admit i never realised Ford put the Kent/Valencia engine in the MK3 Escort until i saw yours,must be pretty rare now ! I had a MK1 Fiesta with one and it went suprisingly well. I can imagine they weren't that popular,the CVH was new and sparkly and the 1.1 probably offered little benefit in terms of mpg over a 1.3 CVH. Amazing really how long lived the Kent engine was from pre crossflow to Valencia. Have you a VV (variable venturi) carb on it ? These were a bit problematic even when they were new. Weber still do a conversion kit i think. Back in around '83 we had a light blue X reg 1.1 3 door estate, with vinyl seats. Christ that burned in the summer!
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Dec 19, 2015 15:25:35 GMT
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Never seen one of them... Ive got the 1.1 OHV and an older garage salesman told me they were really unpopular and hard to sell... Although mine has some carb problem at the moment its pulls really well and starts pretty well etc... is he talking BS? Must admit i never realised Ford put the Kent/Valencia engine in the MK3 Escort until i saw yours,must be pretty rare now ! I had a MK1 Fiesta with one and it went suprisingly well. I can imagine they weren't that popular,the CVH was new and sparkly and the 1.1 probably offered little benefit in terms of mpg over a 1.3 CVH. Amazing really how long lived the Kent engine was from pre crossflow to Valencia. Have you a VV (variable venturi) carb on it ? These were a bit problematic even when they were new. Weber still do a conversion kit i think. There were loads of xflows in escorts in 1100 (Mk3) and 1300 (Mk4) as valencia and then HCS they even used a 950 in certain countrys (Sweden i think) 1100 CVH where rare as rockinghorseshit in the UK i used to break escorts and only ever had 1 on a X reg so they must have dropped it early on ? They used the kent/valencia/HCS.enduraE way into the Ka production! way too long, like keeping a dieing dog alive with pain killers just cos you like it ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) I must stand up for the VV here they were great carbs, ok, ok not great but when they worked they were good, good economy and fair on the power front, not a lot to be gained on either with a weber conversion EXCEPT reliability, most issues were the diaphram splitting and a £7 replacemnet usually sorted that, nowdays they are old and knackerd and whereas a weber will clean up and rebuild and do a fair job the VV usually corrodes internaly and cant be saved, a bit like a skoda, they wern't as bad as people make/made out but it's what gets rememberd, like ask most people and the pinto allways eats cams, ask people who live and breath them and the truth is differant, i've serviced hundreds of escorts and i can say hand on heart the VV is a rather maligned old soul, not great but not as bad as history will remember it as.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:34:59 GMT
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Consider The American Escort? I never quite understood these different versions for various countries as I thought the MK3 was supposed to be Ford's first "World Car". If you bother to look at later models of American Escorts the equivalent of the MK4 & 5 are even further removed from the ones we know with virtually all different bodywork (and probably mechanical parts too). ![](https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7386/13096083205_6bcc11cbaa_b.jpg) ![]() ![](http://www.autotraderclassics.com/images/a/cms/78587/78587.jpg) Also, try as I might, I can't seem to find any evidence of these being modified, either now or back in the day.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:55:17 GMT
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Must admit i never realised Ford put the Kent/Valencia engine in the MK3 Escort until i saw yours,must be pretty rare now ! I had a MK1 Fiesta with one and it went suprisingly well. I can imagine they weren't that popular,the CVH was new and sparkly and the 1.1 probably offered little benefit in terms of mpg over a 1.3 CVH. Amazing really how long lived the Kent engine was from pre crossflow to Valencia. Have you a VV (variable venturi) carb on it ? These were a bit problematic even when they were new. Weber still do a conversion kit i think. There were loads of xflows in escorts in 1100 (Mk3) and 1300 (Mk4) as valencia and then HCS they even used a 950 in certain countrys (Sweden i think) 1100 CVH where rare as rockinghorseshit in the UK i used to break escorts and only ever had 1 on a X reg so they must have dropped it early on ? They used the kent/valencia/HCS.enduraE way into the Ka production! way too long, like keeping a dieing dog alive with pain killers just cos you like it ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) I must stand up for the VV here they were great carbs, ok, ok not great but when they worked they were good, good economy and fair on the power front, not a lot to be gained on either with a weber conversion EXCEPT reliability, most issues were the diaphram splitting and a £7 replacemnet usually sorted that, nowdays they are old and knackerd and whereas a weber will clean up and rebuild and do a fair job the VV usually corrodes internaly and cant be saved, a bit like a skoda, they wern't as bad as people make/made out but it's what gets rememberd, like ask most people and the pinto allways eats cams, ask people who live and breath them and the truth is differant, i've serviced hundreds of escorts and i can say hand on heart the VV is a rather maligned old soul, not great but not as bad as history will remember it as. Yeah i knew about the Valencia 1.3 in the MK4 when they went to 1.4 for the CVH but the Mk3 1.1 passed me by somehow ! I had a lot of Fords with VV's and yes to be fair they weren't as bad as people made out.Your'e right a lot got junked just for the sake of it because people said they were rubbish. I had fewer Pintos than Xflows,but i did have one where the spray bar had got blocked and knocked the cam lobes off.Lack of oil changes i suspect,good engines though.I feel the same way about how the K series will be remembered,much better engine than given credit for,but thats for another thread!
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Dec 19, 2015 16:00:14 GMT
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I've only ever seen 1 of the first gen USA versions from when i was out in the states and i've been all over the country a couple of times... apparently they're completely different cars except for looks a little like a mk3... the ones after the first USA gen ones are still popular out although... all my American mates take the curse word becuse i drive an Escort ( it was seen a real bum car out there) wheres here It gets a lot off affection... from people who possibly used to steel them quite a lot, sometimes! one guy in Manchester was shouting his head off saying it was worth £20000... don't think so but i was also a bit worried he was going to try and have it while i was doing a gig! Would love to drive one of the USA ones. I keep thinking of doing a webber carb change on my 1.1 mainly because of reliability ... its really letting me down around start up on the VV. The webber kits on ebay are well over £100! is that right? would you be able to use a Carb off a different ford engine like a 1.1, 1.3 or 1.6? occasionally i see them for about £30 Heres one from Thailand ![](http://www.wecreate.asia/wp-content/uploads/ford-escort-mk3-thailand-1.jpg)
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Dec 19, 2015 16:13:45 GMT
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Weber 32 IBF or ICH i think,not a performance swap though as Bortaf said it's a reliability upgrade. I wouldn't bother getting a secondhand VV as it probably won't be any better than what you have.
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Dec 20, 2015 12:40:47 GMT
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32 IBF IIRC was the replacement for the 1.1. and yes i agree on the K series (had to slip that in) ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Dec 20, 2015 20:11:31 GMT
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Haha I've done that one :-) Was it an ST200 estate? Are you the same Dan from fast ford who had the blue project 3 door? If so did that motor ever get finished? Yes, it was an estate, but no, I'm a different Dan (White), Dan Fudge had the Sierra. He got it pretty much finished, took it out for a drive, and a couple of blokes of 'traveller persuasion' crashed into the back of him. When he got out to remonstrate, they lamped him one, then drove off. The police weren't interested in helping IIRC. Car was written off.
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Dec 20, 2015 22:38:10 GMT
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Haha I've done that one :-) Was it an ST200 estate? Are you the same Dan from fast ford who had the blue project 3 door? If so did that motor ever get finished? Yes, it was an estate, but no, I'm a different Dan (White), Dan Fudge had the Sierra. He got it pretty much finished, took it out for a drive, and a couple of blokes of 'traveller persuasion' crashed into the back of him. When he got out to remonstrate, they lamped him one, then drove off. The police weren't interested in helping IIRC. Car was written off. I always wondered what happened to it and that is so sad, I liked the car and the fact he went the different route with it with the lack of spoiler and saph front bumper modified. I have just found a picture on passionford of it, ![](http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/s4mmy2009/Mobile%20Uploads/SDC10878_zpslemc7sjb.jpg) They must have whacked it with some force ![](http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/s4mmy2009/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAGE_006_zpsl1lrvbcj.jpg) I'm really sorry for deviating this thread, have a cool mk3 escort van as an apology ![](http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu50/s4mmy2009/Mobile%20Uploads/63da4d5dedf4f89f7600b00115633dac_zpso8tbb3vc.jpg)
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Dec 20, 2015 23:08:12 GMT
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1, ouch! and 2, oooh...
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Dec 20, 2015 23:27:22 GMT
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Is that yellow van real? Looks like a corgi model modified to my eyes. Does look very good tho ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Dec 20, 2015 23:40:28 GMT
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I don't know if it's real it's from Google images the picture is on pinterest and it just says mk3 escort van, just looked awesome
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Dec 21, 2015 14:20:22 GMT
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ever seen a 1.1 CVH Escort? I know they sold them on the continent, but never certain if they were actually sold here briefly... An old friend of mine had a 1.1 CVH in yellow. 3 door I think. He went mad and managed to fit twin Capri headlights in it!
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Dec 21, 2015 16:39:09 GMT
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Yeah the 1.1 CVH was sold here,didn't last long though unveiled in 1980 and dropped in 82. According to Wiki it flopped due to it being worse on juice than the old 1.1 Kent/Valencia.Makes sense the Kents were fairly frugal things and i remember the 1.3 CVH being a touch thirsty.
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