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anyhoo, back to the steering relay - at a little over £50 for a new one, there was no pint in messing about with the old one, or so I thought. While waiting for my order of parts to be delivered, I did some research on steering relays, specifically removing and replacing them. Before buying the Land Rover, I knew nothing of steering relays, now, I know everything, lol. I found out that they're a PITA to remove ( or can be ), sometimes it's just easier to cut the crossmember out and weld in a new one, just to install the new relay !! I even watched a video of a guy in Russia who used a length of "H" beam RSJ to brace the chassis as he tried to remove the relay by putting a BF trolley jack under it, I certainly didn't think that the "H" beam would bend, but bend it did ! I decided, after three days of trying to remove the old relay, that I'd just take all the internals out and replace them with the internals from the new one. Not only was there no oil in the old relay at all, but as can be seen in the below pic, one of the upper fibre bushes had started to split and separate in various places Good call on buying a new one then.
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1968 Dodge Charger 1985 Chevrolet Camaro 1993 Toyota Hilux Surf 2001 Ford Mondeo
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If the old centre shaft is in decent condition then reuse it.
The pattern ones aren't unknown for shearing off, and having had it happen whilst doing a 3 point turn, I can tell you that even at low speed it makes the your bum grab the seat pretty tightly.
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Sadly the original centre shaft isn't in great condition. I'll have to use the new centre shaft
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1968 Dodge Charger 1985 Chevrolet Camaro 1993 Toyota Hilux Surf 2001 Ford Mondeo
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I remember getting the one out of mine, It took a while but eventually it came out, I had the whole weight of the vehicle resting on it, filled around it with penetrating oil from above for a few days then managed to rock it form side to died at the top (using large club hammer)this got it moving a little at a time and it eventually came out.
Kevin
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Looks like someone has fitted a set of parabolic springs at some point. They're not unknown for leaving the vehicle leaning to one side -depending on manufacturer- once fitted. It wouldn't surprise me to discover that the home made shackle on the rear was a DIY attempt to make it sit level. Didn't realise they were parabolic springs, we'll see what happens when I get the shackle changed over. You'll immediately tell if they only have 2-3 leaves, standard is 7 leaf petrol and 11-leaf for diesel, that's SWB, for info LWB might be different.
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*S202 C300TD Wagon* Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..
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Didn't realise they were parabolic springs, we'll see what happens when I get the shackle changed over. You'll immediately tell if they only have 2-3 leaves, standard is 7 leaf petrol and 11-leaf for diesel, that's SWB, for info LWB might be different. Ah, that explains it. I was wondering why it only seemed to have 2 or 3 leafs when all the pics I've seen have 7 or more. Thanjs
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1968 Dodge Charger 1985 Chevrolet Camaro 1993 Toyota Hilux Surf 2001 Ford Mondeo
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11 leaf front, 11 leaf rear for diesel 88 (9 leaf front 11 leaf rear for petrol 88) i agree with the previous comment that the long shackle will be to correct a sagging spring / vehicle lean. perfectly ok if its a land rover military shackle, but yours doesn't look like it (millitary shackles have a horizontal strengthening tube halfway down running between the two bars) the rear windows look like generic boat windows (think along the lines of 1970s norfolk broads cruiser ) more interesting, to me at least, is the horizontally split "stable door" style rear end. this is not a standard land rover item, although it does look like its modified from land rover parts. they usually have a cat flap setup (think along the lines of range rover, with a tailgate that drops and a tailgate that flips up) or traditional full height safari door like a defender, or half tailgate and canvas tilt. have you got any better pictures with it open in stages ?
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Last Edit: Jul 5, 2017 18:00:11 GMT by darrenh
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11 leaf front, 11 leaf rear for diesel 88 (9 leaf front 11 leaf rear for petrol 88) i agree with the previous comment that the long shackle will be to correct a sagging spring / vehicle lean. perfectly ok if its a land rover military shackle, but yours doesn't look like it (millitary shackles have a horizontal strengthening tube halfway down running between the two bars) the rear windows look like generic boat windows (think along the lines of 1970s norfolk broads cruiser ) more interesting, to me at least, is the horizontally split "stable door" style rear end. this is not a standard land rover item, although it does look like its modified from land rover parts. they usually have a cat flap setup (think along the lines of range rover, with a tailgate that drops and a tailgate that flips up) or traditional full height safari door like a defender, or half tailgate and canvas tilt. have you got any better pictures with it open in stages ? It's definitely not a military shackle, we'll see what happens when I get it changed for the correct item. know exactly what you mean about the rear windows, close inspection suggests that they're either factory fitted or one of the previous owners has converted them very well. no pictures of the rear door open I'm afraid
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Jul 16, 2017 11:12:57 GMT
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I seem to recall from my deepest, haziest memory that parabolic (and possibly ordianry) springs for Series Landies are different N/S and O/S. Something to do with the driver and the fuel tank being on the O/S. If you put them on the wrong sides it can cause them to lean over.
I might be wrong, it's a long time since I last tinkered with one...
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Jul 16, 2017 11:35:01 GMT
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I seem to recall from my deepest, haziest memory that parabolic (and possibly ordianry) springs for Series Landies are different N/S and O/S. Something to do with the driver and the fuel tank being on the O/S. If you put them on the wrong sides it can cause them to lean over. I might be wrong, it's a long time since I last tinkered with one... you are right, the UK drivers side springs have about half inch more free camber (arch) but the actual spring rates and leaf thicknesses are all the same. so on the ground the truck should still be level (ish)
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Last Edit: Jul 16, 2017 11:36:06 GMT by darrenh
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I seem to recall from my deepest, haziest memory that parabolic (and possibly ordianry) springs for Series Landies are different N/S and O/S. Something to do with the driver and the fuel tank being on the O/S. If you put them on the wrong sides it can cause them to lean over. I might be wrong, it's a long time since I last tinkered with one... you are right, the UK drivers side springs have about half inch more free camber (arch) but the actual spring rates and leaf thicknesses are all the same. so on the ground the truck should still be level (ish) Thanks guys, something else to check when I get that far.
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Well, after nearly two years since my last post and after some personal issues to deal with. The Land Rover is no longer here with me. Sad to say that there won’t be any further posts on this thread.
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1968 Dodge Charger 1985 Chevrolet Camaro 1993 Toyota Hilux Surf 2001 Ford Mondeo
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