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Tell me about 190e Mercs.....Mercdan68
@forddan68
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Yep I second the W202 As said earlier in this thread I’ve got a 250 turbodiesel Best car I’ve owned had it seven years and have no intention of ever selling it , will have to see how the 190E compares once I use it around March time
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Just can't warm to a W202. It's too new, complicated and doesn't have the same appeal for me as the 190e. I currently have a 1.8 Zetec mk1 Focus as a daily. It does about 30-36 mpg on a run. Just wondered how this would compare to the 190e. I am reading a 190e 1.8 auto does about 5-6 mp lower, on average. Any first-hand experience of this from anyone here? Insurance for me is cheaper on the 190e too!!! And there's one fairly local for £800. 120k, 1.8 auto, clean, solid, MOT'ed. Sound cheap?
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I knew I was getting old when I started to look at W202s and go "actually, they're not bad looking"...
Still a proud owner of a brace of 190s though, one near-mint (or as close as I get without not wanting to drive it), one long term project.
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Do the diesels use a different manual box to the petrols? The box in my 2.5D is quite nice to use and gets me 40mpg average and 45 on a run. They all have the same type of gear linkage which gives it the... distinct feeling. I wouldn't call it undriveable, but especially on high mileage ones they are not exactly made for spirited driving. It isn't just the bushings either. The gearlever itself gets sloppy with age, as it's a quite an overengineered piece of technology. It can be a struggle getting your left leg under the bus like steering wheel There is a super sought after leather sportline/amg steering wheel you can look into. The facelift w124 also has a smaller nicer feeling wheel, not sure about the fit though. Overall i like 190's, more so than the w124 as they're a bit sportier. Still most of the critique in this thread is valid and they are a bit of an acquired taste. Petrol ones drink loads and N/A diesel ones are slow. So get a 2.5 turbo diesel, personally i'd go with a manual despite their shortcommings as i can't stand merc autoboxes. Ultra slow shifting, terrible gearing and robs loads of power.
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Last Edit: Jan 8, 2018 21:31:29 GMT by dude
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And there's one fairly local for £800. 120k, 1.8 auto, clean, solid, MOT'ed. Sound cheap? If its rust-free then I'd say thats pretty good value, yes.
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1986 BMW 628csi, 2003 Alfa Romeo 147, 1992 Jaaaaag XJ40, 1982 BMW R100 cafe racer.
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ChasR
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Tell me about 190e Mercs.....ChasR
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Definitely steer clear of manuals. BMWs have curse word manuals, including the E46 M3 and it doesn't stop people avoiding them. If anything more people want a manual! My W124 isn't as slick as an MX-5 or the Mondeo 2.5Ts which are light and precise. While not great it's not too bad at all ; it's better than the manual E36 323i I owned. Now that was a hateful 'box, despite it being the 'driver's ' gearbox and probably the reason why the car sold well. Just can't warm to a W202. It's too new, complicated and doesn't have the same appeal for me as the 190e. I currently have a 1.8 Zetec mk1 Focus as a daily. It does about 30-36 mpg on a run. Just wondered how this would compare to the 190e. I am reading a 190e 1.8 auto does about 5-6 mp lower, on average. Any first-hand experience of this from anyone here? Insurance for me is cheaper on the 190e too!!! And there's one fairly local for £800. 120k, 1.8 auto, clean, solid, MOT'ed. Sound cheap? This depends on the state of the Focus. They are a good steer but curse word tyres and rubbish bushes can make them feel poor, like alot of cars out there. The Focus will certainly have more of a point and shoot feel. The diesels as said are slow but do build up speed in a smooth way and are great motorway cruisers. As for the price, it depends on the car. With the limited info you have given it sounds fine. The biggest issue with any Merc (or 80s car) now is rust. Check the sills/ jacking points and rear subframe mounts
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Last Edit: Jan 9, 2018 10:25:55 GMT by ChasR
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I love the E36 and E46 manuals. The gearchange on the newest manual 3 series still feels exactly the same as the manual gearchange on my E36 318is way back when and for me, it’s still the best gearchange ever.
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Tell me about 190e Mercs.....Laters
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I have owned a good few Mercs over the years. The two that I regret getting rid of are a 1989 2.0 auto 190e and a 1998 c250td auto.
When I was looking for my 190 I test drove a few of various engine sizes. The 1.8 with the auto box was very sluggish compared to the others. The 190 auto boxes like to set off in 2nd gear which doesn't help performance. The 2.0 auto 190e I had I kept for 4 or 5 years and only swapped it for the c class as it was getting very rough around the edges.
I would love another 190 at some point but finding a good rust free example in the spec I want will be hard.
Check all the normal areas for rust & have a look at its mot history as that can tell you a lot about how its been looked after.
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Tell me about 190e Mercs.....ChasR
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I love the E36 and E46 manuals. The gearchange on the newest manual 3 series still feels exactly the same as the manual gearchange on my E36 318is way back when and for me, it’s still the best gearchange ever. Now I know you are on the windup .
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