Darkspeed
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Mar 29, 2019 16:51:39 GMT
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Looks like a modified Maserati A6GCS spyder You would really hope not but what value old race cars back then I guess especially if the engine had expired. I think that's a good call. From page 9 A bit more digging on the history behind the Falcon has unearthed some interesting possibilities - There is speculation that the original Falcon shells were actually produced from an alloy bodied special built for the founder of ELVA cars - said alloy body being a take on the Maserati A6GCS rather than anything jaguar related. The thoughts then being that the alloy bodied special was given to Ashley laminates to make the moulds to produce the shells for the bodies of the Elva MK1 racers Engine bay of the Masertati is a bit more .... well actually a lot more! The Elva using the Coventry Climax as mentioned previously having decent credentials even if not quite up to the Maserati standard of heritage.
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Last Edit: Mar 29, 2019 17:59:19 GMT by Darkspeed
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Darkspeed
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Last Edit: Apr 6, 2019 17:54:28 GMT by Darkspeed
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Pity you cannot fit E-type lights.
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Darkspeed
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Pity you cannot fit E-type lights. They come with E-Hype tax - and to me would look out of place on such a small car - I did consider Frogeye lamps turned 90 but the simple round Lucas lamps are a better fit to the style and I think I prefer the position nearer the number plate.
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Darkspeed
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The number plates will be shrinking quite a bit and going white on black stick on. So they will not be as obtrusive as the existing and I may well look at getting a non suffix plate in the future.
Although I don't have any requirement to keep to IVA rules, some of them, the majority in fact, are pretty sensible and for the rear lamps the requirement is max 400mm in from the side of the car and a min height of 350mm. So I will go to the limit of 400 in and it will be around 400 high as well and space about 1/2" between the lamps.
Looking at the positions what I may look at doing for a project is making a plinth moulding to mount the lamps on.
The real test with this car is trying to make everything look in some way symmetrical when the actual car body is everything but. The car is so asymmetrical you would almost have to do it on purpose to make it so bad!
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79cord
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Lights look great mounted straight on the body like that. Asymmetry is why the lights look lop-sided heights, or just photo angle?
Does smaller No. plate also allow plate lamps on each side since the body is shaped for wide plates, & removing the upper plate lamp & its ugly body mtg/shaping. Though then you'd have to fix the bootlid gap.
Though you were probably writing about the frt. plate?
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2019 11:03:36 GMT by 79cord
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Darkspeed
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Trouble is its so different side to side and in every aspect you have to mount the lights oddly at the best compromise as there is no option for symmetry - Removing and chopping the body about to remove the number plate mount is a non starter as you also remove the plate plinth and just be inclined to keep going. Even as they are I will need to mount the lamps on some 2-3mm closed cell foam to make up gaps as the body is so curved. Spent ages with sean1965 today staring at the back of the car and just moving a lamp up 2mm to try and make it right with one lamp will make it look wrong compared to another. What I have settled on at the moment will do as a best for now situation until I sort out all the holes and flash lines etc. and then I will look at doing something like below - Maybe... as I really have enough to other projects and this was just a run about. And I think they look rather splendid in Green
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2019 14:09:32 GMT by Darkspeed
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Darkspeed
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The original lamp pod mounts. Carried on with the lights today - have done the positioning and drilled the mounting holes etc. and need to get hold of some M4 Nuts bolts and washers to mount them to the car with - my try and get hold of those tomorrow. In the mean time I wired up the lamps - these lamps are fitted with bullet connectors on the units and these were installed with the wiring from the main loom pushed through the rubber boot and terminated with the bullet which means that removing the whole lamp unit involves cutting the wiring in one way or another. I much prefer being able to remove the lamp as a unit to work on so have wired each unit with its own plug. The wiring "stuff" boxes Nice shiny new connectors for the nice shiny new lamps Then onto the fronts which are also "interestingly" mounted New flat lens type lamps will make the angles less - well - less. But the positions on both sides will need to be moved eventually.
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that is stunning with the twin cowls. the drop doors look funky as hell but i bet they are a gentlemans to get out over!!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Darkspeed
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that is stunning with the twin cowls. the drop doors look funky as hell but i bet they are a gentlemans to get out over!![/quote] Less a problem than you would imagine as the door is only this size. Even when its closed it is only 22-24" high - Bomber has similar doors but no hinges and PNP will be converted to drop doors at some stage.
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2019 20:26:25 GMT by Darkspeed
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Darkspeed Possibly not the same style/size but would '57 Cadillac rocket light tail lenses suit? They're made to be plinth mounted, and with so many repros available, would most likely be cheaper than E-type or similar lenses.
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Darkspeed
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Darkspeed Possibly not the same style/size but would '57 Cadillac rocket light tail lenses suit? They're made to be plinth mounted, and with so many repros available, would most likely be cheaper than E-type or similar lenses. I'm not looking for options on light types as I settled on Lucas flat lens L488's and bought them months ago. Period lamps that suit the car perfectly. The only other option considered were these. Using something like this as it needs to be from a similarly diminutive vehicle. I have very specific views and ideas how I want my cars and I seldom if ever find myself doing "suggestions please" as I usually know the direction I am going beforehand.
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Darkspeed
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Yes if using those Frogeye lamps turned 90 I would have been copying what had been done before. Who could blame me
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Darkspeed
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Apr 13, 2019 19:26:54 GMT
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Lamps on Wiring done Sharpe curve on the back means that foam is required to make it appear a bit tidier. curve also very different side to side as we know. The work and look much better than the old ones. May get the fronts done tomorrow and also have a look at the headlamps. After that its the new radiator
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how about a smear of sikaflex to disguise the gap. if you didnt want it bonding the gasket to the body then refiit them with cling film behind and once cured remove the film. means on and off twice but would look tidy.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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The diminutive size of these cars really makes it look like the number plates are huge. Can you fit a number plate with motorbike size digits to bring it back into proportion? Not strictly legal but with it all balanced out would the powers that be notice?
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Darkspeed
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Apr 14, 2019 16:23:13 GMT
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The diminutive size of these cars really makes it look like the number plates are huge. Can you fit a number plate with motorbike size digits to bring it back into proportion? Not strictly legal but with it all balanced out would the powers that be notice? Yep see post above from the 7th - much smaller Black on White stick on - We ran something far from legal on the Fury - we never had an issue but 1500 miles in 4 years living in the rurals you are going to be unlucky if you did.
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Darkspeed
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Apr 14, 2019 16:24:26 GMT
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how about a smear of sikaflex to disguise the gap. if you didnt want it bonding the gasket to the body then refiit them with cling film behind and once cured remove the film. means on and off twice but would look tidy. A simple circle of foam is much easier.
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Apr 14, 2019 16:33:07 GMT
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k.i.s.s principal...clearly i over thought this one!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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