ade36
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I am very much a novice welder. I currently own a Clarke 105en turbo which I am using with varying degrees of success on my Mk1 Jetta restoration. The gas bottle (small single use hobby type) has just run out and I am contemplating making the switch to larger bottles. Obviously, this will likely save me money long term, especially as I still have a lot of welding ahead of me in this project. But, as it stands, I can legitimately put the occasional hobby bottle of gas through company expenses so the small bottles aren't really costing me much personally. What kind of costs would I be looking at for the initial set-up for switching to large bottles. Would obviously need to factor in regulator, adaptor (to size down to tiny pipe on the Clarke welder) but also, how much does it cost for the bottle (I assume you need to put down some kind of deposit?)? What supplier do people recommend?
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I am very much a novice welder. I currently own a Clarke 105en turbo which I am using with varying degrees of success on my Mk1 Jetta restoration. The gas bottle (small single use hobby type) has just run out and I am contemplating making the switch to larger bottles. Obviously, this will likely save me money long term, especially as I still have a lot of welding ahead of me in this project. But, as it stands, I can legitimately put the occasional hobby bottle of gas through company expenses so the small bottles aren't really costing me much personally. What kind of costs would I be looking at for the initial set-up for switching to large bottles. Would obviously need to factor in regulator, adaptor (to size down to tiny pipe on the Clarke welder) but also, how much does it cost for the bottle (I assume you need to put down some kind of deposit?)? What supplier do people recommend? I suggest that you read through the link below has it will answer the vast majority of your questions - and from what I see & hear this is the company that most people use - including myself although I use their larger range of bottles - the smaller bottle range will be fine for you www.hobbyweld.co.uk/products/
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Last Edit: Dec 8, 2018 13:58:28 GMT by Deleted
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I got one from my local tool hire place, the deposit was £60 and I've just done a bottle refill at £46. That's their equivalent of Argoshield light.
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Also worth searching SGS, it’s a good deal if you’ve a distributor nearby.
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slater
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Mig welding gas questions...slater
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Dec 12, 2018 18:29:33 GMT
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Sgs are cheaper but go with whoever is nearest otherwise it's a pain having to travel to pick up bottles (even once a year)
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Dec 13, 2018 23:30:40 GMT
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ade36 try using adams gas , based in kent and I use them same prices pretty much as said here- £46 a refill and the bottles last a long while well with me anyway. local company and deliver to your door also
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SiC
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Depends how much you're going to get through. I started on Hobbyweld 5, but after 4 refills (~£40 per refill) in 2 months it was getting quite expensive. (My purple 1100 is pretty rusty and has needed quite a lot of new steel.)
I've now moved to BOC. They have a hobby deal that you get if you phone them up and ask for it. Quote Volksworld. Deal is as follows: Argonshield light Y-Cylinder - 230bar fill 5m3 £56.40 inc VAT per year £43.20 per refill
5m3 is about 4x the size of a standard hobbyweld bottle. You register over the phone for an account and once sorted you pick the bottle up from your local BOC dealer. I used the main BOC Number of 08082506020 and selected Industrial Gases. Pretty much zero hassle and the guy was very keen for me signing up. Seemed very happy and pleased to be dealing with a hobbyist.
So depends how much welding you are going to do. One refills of a hobbyweld per year makes that BOC deal better.
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Last Edit: Dec 21, 2018 0:12:31 GMT by SiC
Projects/Classics: 1974 MGB GT (it's best not to talk about this one), 1972 Austin 1100 (The Purple Peril that has consumed a lot of fresh metal, welding gas and wire so far) Daily drivers: 2010 Audi A4 (my wife seems to have taken ownership of this), 2008 Audi TT (I hate them, supposed to have been a stop gap but currently stuck with it), Specialized Allez (cycling to work allows me to eat loads of cake)
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Feb 13, 2019 20:04:46 GMT
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My local supplier does albee bottles which are a smaller size than sgs but last very well, also have a built in regulator which is nice as you don't have to shell out for one. Not too expensive either, and you don't have to buy the cylinders so the initial cost isn't daft.
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