jonxs
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Feb 19, 2019 16:24:52 GMT
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Hi there guys. Sorry its been a while. But I'm back again. Anyway, I'd like a top engine mount made up as the original doesnt fit past the carbs.. I've attached some photos of the original mount and a mount that i got online from another forum which is pretty much what id like (same engine and car, similar mods) Can someone recommend me a place or person in Bedfordshire area that are able and willing to fab one up?
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slater
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Feb 19, 2019 17:02:35 GMT
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And your question is?
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jonxs
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Feb 19, 2019 17:06:24 GMT
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Haha whoops.... I'll adjust it.
Can someone recommend me a place or person in Bedfordshire area that are able and willing to fab one up?
Thats the question. Sorry
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slater
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Feb 19, 2019 17:16:02 GMT
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I don't really know anyone around beds but if I was doing it id have a few questions..
What's the actual difference between the stock one and the new one? Does it move the engine forward or something? The fabbed one doesn't look very strong to me but might be a bit spindly for a reason?
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Feb 19, 2019 17:17:27 GMT
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If i understand correctly the alu mount in the first picture fouls the carbs ? If so put it on and either cut away where it does not fit or mark with a pen [ probably best to cut it away or file ] and then take it somewhere to use as a pattern.
Other wise they will not have a clue as people cannot make things accurately from a picture .
If thats what you mean.
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mk2cossie
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Feb 19, 2019 17:37:38 GMT
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If i understand correctly the alu mount in the first picture fouls the carbs ? If so put it on and either cut away where it does not fit or mark with a pen [ probably best to cut it away or file ] and then take it somewhere to use as a pattern. Other wise they will not have a clue as people cannot make things accurately from a picture . If thats what you mean. This is what I would do. Either that or see what would need trimming off for the inlet to fit and get it machined down (the mounting bracket) and use shorter bolts
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jonxs
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Feb 19, 2019 17:41:35 GMT
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I don't really know anyone around beds but if I was doing it id have a few questions.. What's the actual difference between the stock one and the new one? Does it move the engine forward or something? The fabbed one doesn't look very strong to me but might be a bit spindly for a reason? If i understand correctly the alu mount in the first picture fouls the carbs ? If so put it on and either cut away where it does not fit or mark with a pen [ probably best to cut it away or file ] and then take it somewhere to use as a pattern. Other wise they will not have a clue as people cannot make things accurately from a picture . If thats what you mean. Sorry.. The fabbed one doesnt move the engine forward at all. It just needs to be a lower profile, paticularly in the furthest bolt on the other side. The area that fouls the carb intake is the lower area where there are the 3 bolts. I will do my best to get another few pictures and remove the mount to show. Really sorry people I'm having a bit of a bad day.
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Feb 19, 2019 19:32:02 GMT
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They should be able to do it then if you just point out how the need needs to be different and take the alu one to them[ whoever that may be ]
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jonxs
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Feb 20, 2019 15:55:07 GMT
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Here is another few photos of said mount. I have tried my best to mark it up, but the marker ran out....... God dang it... I didn't think id be able to get some machined off as its quite a large piece thats needed to be removed. Thought itd make it too weak and snap.. Lol I have mailed a few companys local to here and other than no replys, ive been told its not something that they would do.. Does anyone have an idea of what the price could be for making one? My gues is around the £100 ish mark? Or am i way off. Thanks again Edit: there is a black line thats 25mm up from the base of the mount and from the edge 30mm in. All of that would need removing so it wont foul the intake and carbs
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Feb 20, 2019 19:15:28 GMT
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Probably be fine, if you just take it off that back bolt location, it not taking much weight, in fact it's in compression as the other two bolts are hanging the load anyway. if you use a countersunk bolt or recess a cap screw, you could leave more metal in-place and most likely just take the webs off?
Just have at it with a hacksaw and file and remove the minimum and see how it looks.
Brian
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slater
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Feb 20, 2019 19:18:29 GMT
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If it we're me I'd just slim down the ally one and fit a countersunk bolt in it so you loose the head. 'Looks' like it would get you the clearance without weakening the mount too much. (The steel version hardly looks strong!)
I could make one if you supplied the original but by the time it's all been jigged up it's going to be more than 100quid. Maybe more like 200 id say. It's more than a couple of hours work.
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Feb 20, 2019 19:27:10 GMT
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If that was me I would carefully cut and file away the offending part. I think that as there are three mounting points at that end that there would still be enough strength in it. Must write quicker LOL.
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Last Edit: Feb 20, 2019 19:30:09 GMT by brading
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jonxs
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Feb 26, 2019 20:07:04 GMT
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Hi, Where you've cut it is OK but don't leave that sharp angle of where the cuts meet because it's a stress riser and if it ever breaks it will be there. Just make the angle more obtuse (greater than 90 degrees) and using a round or half round file smooth it out.
Colin
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I agree, that should be fine if you smooth it out a bit. Things must be a bit different here in the frozen North, I would have made a mount ( not painted ) for £50 . don't have huge overheads and staff to pay though.
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jonxs
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Feb 27, 2019 10:17:09 GMT
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Thanks guys.
Thanks guys. So i should 'shamfer' the edge to be more rounded? I am understanding you right??
Now to find a file thats a little bigfer than a needle file haha.
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jonxs
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Feb 27, 2019 10:18:00 GMT
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I agree, that should be fine if you smooth it out a bit. Things must be a bit different here in the frozen North, I would have made a mount ( not painted ) for £50 . don't have huge overheads and staff to pay though. Dang mate.. Shame youre so far away from me.. Everyone seems too far away from me here
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slater
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Feb 27, 2019 12:56:37 GMT
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I agree, that should be fine if you smooth it out a bit. Things must be a bit different here in the frozen North, I would have made a mount ( not painted ) for £50 . don't have huge overheads and staff to pay though. 50quid is an hours work for me. Nothing to do with overheads. It's just what the time of a skilled guy is worth really, any less and I may aswell go do some overtime.
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slater
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Feb 27, 2019 13:00:58 GMT
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Thanks guys. Thanks guys. So i should 'shamfer' the edge to be more rounded? I am understanding you right?? Now to find a file thats a little bigfer than a needle file haha. Just make sure there's a radius in the corner of where you have cut to avoid a stewss raiser, even a small 3mm radii is fine.. You can chamfer off the ribs on the top there without loosing any strength but its not that nessicary, just makes it look like you know what you're doing..
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jonxs
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Feb 27, 2019 13:05:36 GMT
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Thanks slater for your help. I do know what I'm doing sometimes hahaha. I shall make it as smooth of a transition as i can get.
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