|
|
|
Now this might sound like an odd complaint, but.... Why are all these electric cars so fast? They're all in the 6.5-8 seconds range. Who genuinely needs that in a city car? That's in the last gen hot hatch territory, whereas ICE powered city cars are over 11 seconds ish. Why do they need to half the 0-60? Why not smooth that out, keep in in the 10 second range and get a bit more out of the battery? I did wonder that, our electric van is quick enough in the city yet 0-60 is 14s - 20-40 is nearly instant lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 10:36:00 GMT
|
Now this might sound like an odd complaint, but.... Why are all these electric cars so fast? They're all in the 6.5-8 seconds range. Who genuinely needs that in a city car? That's in the last gen hot hatch territory, whereas ICE powered city cars are over 11 seconds ish. Why do they need to half the 0-60? Why not smooth that out, keep in in the 10 second range and get a bit more out of the battery? It's because an electric motor has lots of torque(which is what makes the car move) as soon as it turns. And an IC engine, especially a small one as in city cars, doesn't.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 10:42:41 GMT
|
Now this might sound like an odd complaint, but.... Why are all these electric cars so fast? They're all in the 6.5-8 seconds range. Who genuinely needs that in a city car? That's in the last gen hot hatch territory, whereas ICE powered city cars are over 11 seconds ish. Why do they need to half the 0-60? Why not smooth that out, keep in in the 10 second range and get a bit more out of the battery? It's because an electric motor has lots of torque(which is what makes the car move) as soon as it turns. And an IC engine, especially a small one as in city cars, doesn't. I know the technical aspect of it, but it's still adjustable via the controller/software. What's the thinking behind the acceleration curve they've chosen?
|
|
|
|
duncanmartin
Club Retro Rides Member
Out of retro ownership
Posts: 1,320
Club RR Member Number: 70
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 10:47:44 GMT
|
I think there are 2 answers as to why they deliver those 0-60 times. 1 is to do with the way that the torque from 0 revs (which means that 0-30 is pretty sprightly no matter how much power) and the lack of gear changes artificially chop the 0-60 times. 2 is because they are single speed, if you cut motor power too much then 50-70 is terrible and would put a lot of people off. My Zoe is a 90kW motor, and 50-70 is pretty rubbish, the standard most manufacturers seem to have settled on is 135kW which is a lot better.
On the second point, I don't think you actually lose significant motor efficiency with a bigger motor. It adds a bit of weight and cost, but if you have a light foot you are not going to burn many more electrons with an over specced motor. Renault quote the same range for the R110 motor as the R135 motor (whether they are the same motor with software limits I have no idea). I don't know if there are any other like-for-like motor comparisons without adding 4wd or something.
|
|
|
|
ferny
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 984
Club RR Member Number: 13
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 11:16:42 GMT
|
Has anyone been on the Honda site and priced one up yet? I won't be getting one.
ðŸ˜
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 11:40:37 GMT
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 18, 2020 11:49:46 GMT
|
It's because an electric motor has lots of torque(which is what makes the car move) as soon as it turns. And an IC engine, especially a small one as in city cars, doesn't. I know the technical aspect of it, but it's still adjustable via the controller/software. What's the thinking behind the acceleration curve they've chosen? For the same reason that we don't drive around in 70hp Ford Focus; it compromises other functions of the car
|
|
|
|