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Jul 27, 2019 16:47:34 GMT
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Hello everyone. After a managing to set some rags on fire in the manroom whilst welding the other day, I need a fire extinguisher. A quick look online suggests that a powder extinguisher is a good all rounder, but as it won't fully extinguish flammable liquids, maybe something else is better.
What do you use?
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Jul 27, 2019 17:27:50 GMT
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Hi, You need to pick a fire extinguisher for the type of fire you're likely to have. So for a welding type fire something as simple as a bucket of water with a sponge in it will do, or a pump up sprayer bottle. A CO2 extinguisher is OK but it can tend to blow burning material everywhere because there's not much fine control when you're in a panic situation. However I suggest not a powder extinguisher because it makes a god awful mess and you could end up spending some time in the loo as it can give you the trots.
Colin
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Jul 27, 2019 17:59:10 GMT
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Whatever extinguisher you choose plus a fire blanket
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ferny
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Jul 27, 2019 20:17:14 GMT
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Brilliant - thanks everyone
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tristanh
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I just bought 2 for my own new shed, while getting the ones in the workplace checked. Which should be done yearly, BTW.
A foam and a powder, minimum 3kg each should suffice. BCF / HALON were the daddies but concerns about their reaction to the environment put paid to them.
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Whether you believe you can, or you cannot, you're probably right.
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Jul 28, 2019 13:36:54 GMT
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Anyone care to guess the discharge time of a 6kgs extinguisher?
It’s possibly much less than you might’ve thought - something like just twenty seconds.
Even 9kgs aren’t much longer. Don’t bother with anything smaller.
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slater
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Aug 12, 2019 11:47:05 GMT
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I have some going spare in Birmingham if anyone needs one. Better be safe than sorry!
I find powder is a good bet as it will do virtually any fire but I also like to have a co2 around as you can use them on small welding fires (underseal etc.) without covering the workshop in snow..
I buy them 2nd hand from auctions and keep a few extras around just in case. Once they are spent they get cut in half an weighed and with co2 you end up with your money back from the scrap man anyway!
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Aug 14, 2019 18:54:05 GMT
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Halon, just don't use it in a confined area with no other ventilation. Tell them you need it for an aircraft. It might be bad for the polar bears but so is a burning workshop.
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Last Edit: Aug 14, 2019 19:09:10 GMT by dodgerover
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Wilk
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Aug 16, 2019 19:34:20 GMT
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Businesses have to have fire equipment checked annually and most items have a shelf life Get yourself friendly with the maintenance crew and grab a few of the time expired extinguishers. Even tho they're out of date they still work fine which is confirmed as the maintenance staff use them in fire demonstrations
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If it can be fixed with a hammer, then it must be an electrical fault
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jmsheahan
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Sorry for digging up an old thread, and indeed asking a probably stupid question but...
Just bought my first mig welder. Hopefully not but can't ignore I may set something alight whilst welding (stray underseal etc)...
Reading above, will a CO2 extinguisher plus a bucket of water/sponge be enough to deal swiftly with any mishaps?
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Last Edit: Aug 27, 2021 9:24:30 GMT by jmsheahan
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bstardchild
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Sorry for digging up an old thread, and indeed asking a probably stupid question but... Just bought my first mig welder. Hopefully not but can't ignore I may set something alight whilst welding (stray underseal etc)... Reading above, will a CO2 extinguisher plus a bucket of water/sponge be enough to deal swiftly with any mishaps? I have two CO2 extinguishers (one at each end of the garage by the doors) I've never had to use them but I get the guy who does the servicing on the extinguishers at work to service them every two years - he does it as a favour for me (mainly because if he needs the odd bit of welding done I don't charge him for my time or welding consumables) but I don't actually think it's expensive to service them. I accidentaly set off a dry powder extinguisher once in a car - don't ask lets just say my packing left a bit to be desired and the safety pin wasn't secure. I actually thought the boot was on fire when it went off.... The clean up time was horrific!!!!
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Aug 27, 2021 13:26:46 GMT
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We have a few CO2 extinguishers, AFFF (foam) in the rally cars, but am looking at getting some of the Fire Saftey Sticks. One for the car and a big one for the workshop, they have a 10 year shelf life and actually put any type of fire out.
pretty much all of the competitors and rally marshals I know swear by them as they WILL put out a car fire as opposed to AFFF. and don't make nearly as mush mess as dry powder. (I've seen one go off in a service van, the service crew all got out looking like Casper the ghost.
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Take the Next slot right coming up on the left.
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Aug 27, 2021 16:48:11 GMT
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Check out firesticks, recent thing and very effective
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bstardchild
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Aug 27, 2021 17:16:25 GMT
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don't make nearly as mush mess as dry powder. (I've seen one go off in a service van, the service crew all got out looking like Casper the ghost.
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braaap
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Aug 27, 2021 19:21:34 GMT
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We have a few CO2 extinguishers, AFFF (foam) in the rally cars, but am looking at getting some of the Fire Saftey Sticks. One for the car and a big one for the workshop, they have a 10 year shelf life and actually put any type of fire out. pretty much all of the competitors and rally marshals I know swear by them as they WILL put out a car fire as opposed to AFFF. and don't make nearly as mush mess as dry powder. (I've seen one go off in a service van, the service crew all got out looking like Casper the ghost. Check out firesticks, recent thing and very effective First time I heard of those, are they brandnew or do I live behind the moon? Seem not to be availabe in germany.
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Aug 27, 2021 21:18:37 GMT
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As i say quite new but all of the rally crews are starting to use them so they must be pretty good.
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Have a look at water mist fire extinguishers. They are suitable for all fire classes including electrical. They were being used at my place of work before I retired, very impressed.
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Unfortunately Halon is banned for all but Military use. F1 used to have an out but even they have changed due to the ban.
CO2 is good for smaller stuff and doesn't make a mess, powder has good knock down properties so useful if you have to sort a more vigorous fire but obviously makes a huge mess. AFFF is quite good for materials fires .
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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