cjhillman
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1979 Capri (Rolling Project) 1985 Escort mk3 (Daily)
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Looking for polish/protect advice for my old Fords. Car 1: My Escort had a respray about 2 years ago but being Red is has some oxidisation going on where water seems to have sat (bonnet, roof, boot). I think in the past i used G3 polish and i have a bottle of T-cut in the shed which i thought i should used first. Would this be the best way to go with this? how it used to look... Car2: The Capri paint is pretty flat and seems in places that it has no top cover at all as its really rough. I don't hold much hope out for this and i don't think the White paint is that thick in places as a tiny bit flaked off to show blue! With this it would be great to protect it for standing out in the winter and if i could add some form of shine too it i'd be more than happy... ecstatic actually !!
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Ritchie
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There are a million options but personally I would cut the paint back with Meguiars Ultimate Compound then use Collinite 746 or 845. T-Cut is a bit old hat now, however it still has it's uses. You could always use it to give the more oxidised areas a quick rub over then do the whole thing with Meguiars. The Collinite is tough and should last a good length of time if you use a PH neutral car shampoo.
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Last Edit: Oct 6, 2019 3:48:53 GMT by Ritchie
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I use 3M's professional product range for cutting & polishing www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/bodyshop-solutions/how-to/compounding-polishing/Protection wise I use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax (Meguiars is the retail trading division of 3M) www.meguiars.co.uk/shop/nxt-tech-wax-2-75None of the above come cheap but if you want the right results you need to be using the right products - no doubt & like many automotive products that there is no end of options / products / methods / recommendations out there and in some cases its a matter of what works for the individual - I expect the very best from the products that I use & on a constant basis to that end you wont find any Farecla or Autoglym products in my workshop
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Last Edit: Oct 6, 2019 12:25:24 GMT by Deleted
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cjhillman
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1979 Capri (Rolling Project) 1985 Escort mk3 (Daily)
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ahh great so maybe i need something like the Meguiars Compound to remove the oxidisation and then the Wax? Would i need a polish inbetween these two as well?
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ahh great so maybe i need something like the Meguiars Compound to remove the oxidisation and then the Wax? Would i need a polish inbetween these two as well? Personally I would apply a polish after using the compound and prior to using the wax - there will be something in the Meguiars range that will do it
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Jem45
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I use 3M's professional product range for cutting & polishing www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/bodyshop-solutions/how-to/compounding-polishing/Protection wise I use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax (Meguiars is the retail trading division of 3M) www.meguiars.co.uk/shop/nxt-tech-wax-2-75None of the above come cheap but if you want the right results you need to be using the right products - no doubt & like many automotive products that there is no end of options / products / methods / recommendations out there and in some cases its a matter of what works for the individual - I expect the very best from the products that I use & on a constant basis to that end you wont find any Farecla or Autoglym products in my workshop Quite surprised at this since I get better outcomes from Autoglym Super Resin polish than any polish I've used from the Meguiars range... and that's across several different cars over a fair few years. I know you know what you're doing though so am wondering if this is down to how I'm using the Meguiars products!
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Carbs 'n chrome
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Autofinese products are by far the best on the market I've tried most of the products out there, I only tend to use autofinesse now, I use it on our show van and for restoring paint on any car I buy.....I can't recommend ther products enough, have a look on ther website you'll find all you need...and no I'm not on a earner !! A few recent results with there products The van always gets autofinesse tripple on it before a show As said red needs a regular polish to keep the shine We polished my lads red fiesta Sunday with tripple
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2019 17:50:25 GMT by Mercdan68
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ChasR
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Another Meguiars man here. I do cheat however and use the following: -DA Polisher ; A DAS 6 Pro -Rotary ; it's an old Kestrel. Until very recently, I used the Rotary for quite some time. Here are the Combos I tend to use: 1:Rotary with 3M | 3M Fast Cut Plus with the matching head | Optional : Meguiars 205 with a Lake County Orange (slight cutting) head | Wax of Choice. Normally Collinite 476S with a foam pad | 2:Rotary with Meguiars | Meguiars 105 with Lake County Orange head | Meguiars 205 with a Lake County Orange (slight cutting) head | Wax of Choice. Normally Collinite 476S with a foam pad | 3:DA with Meguiars | Meguiars 105 with Hex Logic Orange Pad | Optional : Meguiars 205 with a Hex Logic White head | Wax of Choice. Normally Collinite 476S with a foam pad |
Option 1 I've used for ages and it tends to be a very quick process. It tend to get the bling that I wanted but maybe not quite as much : it was the quickest step however and I've had some great results with that: My W124 250D which is one of the worst cars I've had from a defects point of view came up well: it also did OK on the W108 but I had to change my technique. I employed something called a Mow Down technique (i.e more compound than I ever needed but slow and careful steps). This actually brought out a good result. My sister's Saab and black Mondeo I did with the Option 2 Method: Both came up very well: I'll grab photos of them soon. The Mondeo of mine I did with option 3. I originally wasn't happy with the bonnet but I've managed to get a better result The 105 seems to be hard to remove mind you, but it's come up OK for a car that's never seen a polish in 175,000 miles: ideally I'd have liked to have removed the more subborn scratches from the lacquer but you really need a fancy light and know how to look into the sun to get rid of those. That is my next challenge on bits to remove or I could simply be aiming for the impossible on a daily driven car . http://instagram.com/p/B2AP9Z-Hzt9
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2019 18:50:20 GMT by ChasR
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I've tried a good few different brands over the years. I'm not a detailing fanboy so maybe it's no surprise I found no difference between the leading/popular brands, all seemed to do a good job. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised if some are better than others but to find out what's better/best I reckon I'd need to try different brands on the exact same car. That's unlikely to happen.
Now, when looking for a leading/popular brand I shop by price. Currently I've got Autoglym stuff.
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2019 18:51:29 GMT by Woofwoof
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For years I used Autoglym. It does the job, and if it aint broke, don't fix it. Until somebody bought me the meguiars 3 stage stuff. Wow. I gave my car a going over with a cheap claybar, then used the meguiars stuff and it gives a really glassy shine and lasts really well.
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ChasR
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I've tried a good few different brands over the years. I'm not a detailing fanboy so maybe it's no surprise I found no difference between the leading/popular brands, all seemed to do a good job. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised if some are better than others but to find out what's better/best I reckon I'd need to try different brands on the exact same car. That's unlikely to happen. Now, when looking for a leading/popular brand I shop by price. Currently I've got Autoglym stuff. I’ve tried a few of them . When I was a kid, it was Halfords or CarPlan specials. T-Cut then seemed amazing but now leaves little to be desired, especially when other products do a much superior job for similar or less effort, like Megs 105. There are some surprises with the cheaper products. Autoglym seems to be safe. The Megs stuff is better but the the specialised stuff is where I have noticed the difference. 105 and 205 for example seem to deliver superior results than the Ultimate offerings for example. So much so that I have a bottle of Uktimate Compoujd sat on my shelf at home. Waxes is where I have noticed the biggest difference. That Collinite stuff seems to last forever almost. On wheels, it really does help me it’s keeping the. Looking right long after a refurb etc. That was the one are I skimped on before but it’s the one area now that really lasts and last for me, as in almost 7-10 months .
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2019 20:13:24 GMT by ChasR
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ChasR, wouldn't doubt you about the better detailing products. I'm glad you mentioned waxing wheels. In future, I'll make a point of trying that Collinite gear.
p.s. Many moons ago I had a gallon (yes, a gallon) of T-Cut!
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2019 20:16:08 GMT by Woofwoof
Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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