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Oct 16, 2009 19:19:22 GMT
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The Jury's still out on the plates. I know of some 1968 XJ's wearing modern plates as they were trying to modernise the look of the car when it was new.
I know what you mean about the 2.8... it's reputation for eating pistons never really went away. The problem could never be replicated at Jaguar, as it only happened under gentle driving conditions. I don't think I'm in any danger; I always drive these big Jags "spiritedly"!
Gotta say though, this little 2.8 is probably the sweetest Jag engine I've had. Ever. The low compression and space under the bonnet make it beg for a turbo.
Regards,
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Oct 19, 2009 13:59:38 GMT
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I went to the Jaguar Enthusiast Club Spares Day at Stoneligh park this weekend... wow! Everything you could ever want all under one roof. A couple of cheap E-type projects too; for once they were realistically priced, £6500 each. One was a rough but complete S2 2+2, the other a mint shell for a S1 FHC but incomplete.
Anyway; I was there for bits for the XJ. I managed to pick up a full switch panel, and a set of five chrome gauges for the centre panel. I also managed to get hold of a brand new leather bound factory service manual; still in it's plastic wrapper.
In a flurry of late night activity the gauges got fitted as I couldn't help myself. Shiny stuff rocks. I now need a speedo and rev counter to go witth them but it's not that difficult to find them. Other stuff that isn't original but might end up on this car are leather seats. I'm still dbating whether to upgrade, as I know where to find a set in the right colour. I'm also fitting halogen headlamps as the sealed beams are useless!
I've just sent off to Jaguar for a production trace certificate, which should list all the car's original numbers and the day it rolled off the production line. It should make interesting reading and might just save me £200 a year if she scrapes in before 31st Dec 1972.
More pics to follow soon as soon as the camera and computer start talking to each other again.
Regards,
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Oct 19, 2009 14:40:30 GMT
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This is a lovely old thing. If I weren't such a wuss I'd consider one of these as a daily. I still think one of these would make an excellent security device (OK that is a cougar - not a Jaguar but you get the idea!)
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1967 Morris Traveller 1971 Series IIA Land Rover 1991 Golf GL 4+e 1992 Corrado G60 1986 E28 BMW 528i
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Oct 19, 2009 17:41:37 GMT
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Thanks for the compliment!
That's Ricky Bobby from Talladega Nights. "There's a cougar in the car!" I think my pet cat's doing a good job so far. Every time I leave the car door open, he's in it. If only I can persuade him not to leave muddy paw marks all over the paint...
This Jag is going to be my daily. I ran a series 3 XJ6 as my daily for a few years... once you've had one you will always want another.
Regards,
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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craig
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Oct 19, 2009 20:13:45 GMT
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How could anyone banger race something like this? Always had a lot of time for old Jags, this one looks nice.
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Oct 20, 2009 13:01:12 GMT
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Nice, I like old jags had a few grotty ones in the past, lovely cars, never took any notice of the modern ones till I got my one, after doing some research I find they are not to frightening to own, and mine feels retro when you inside it despite all the gadgets and is lovely to drive, I like the looks more now and its better on juice than my old merc coupe was. Every Brit should own at least one jag.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 20, 2009 13:13:13 GMT
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Every Brit should own at least one jag. Now that ought to be made a law! They're not at all frightening to own. Sure if you go for a V12, it's going to drink at about 6mpg.... but the later fuel injected cars are a lot more frugal. I know in my old 4.0 XJ40, I managed to get a consistent 25mpg out of it at a consistent rather naughty speed on a motorway run to Blackpool and back. I should be able to get at least 23mpg out of this one on carbs. I still think the XJ6 body with and XJ40 engine would make an awesome car, but it will have to be a different one that proves it as this one is rather too nice to modify too much. Regards, Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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davej
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Oct 20, 2009 20:26:03 GMT
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I've just sent off to Jaguar for a production trace certificate, which should list all the car's original numbers and the day it rolled off the production line. It should make interesting reading and might just save me £200 a year if she scrapes in before 31st Dec 1972. Regards, Ric Fingers crossed for you! My camper was registered in March '73 but it was built in October '72! It is interesting to find the exact date of manufacture, Mine celebrated its birthday at the weekend! ;D
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+ 2007 Octavia Vrs estate, 1971 Beetle project, 2004 Shogun Sport
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Oct 22, 2009 16:28:45 GMT
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Dammit.... build date of 24th January 1973. Got a nice certificate to frame though, and all the numbers match. It's even on it's original engine which is rare for a 2.8 litre Jag. Ah well. On with the show...
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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gtxtra
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Oct 30, 2009 21:58:39 GMT
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what a beaut.
as said elsewhere - PURE.
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91 Scala, 87 GTX 16V, 87 GTX BRM 152, 85 GTL, 81 GTi
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Oct 31, 2009 20:23:55 GMT
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That's beautiful, S1 XJ's have a certain purity of line that was lost in '73 when the S2's were launched. And HOW rare must a 2.8 manual be? Fantastic, I'll be watching with interest. One day, Ill own one. I 've heard that a 2.8 is the rarest of all XJs. Recently there was a 1986 D reg 3.4 Manual for sale
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Oct 31, 2009 22:52:16 GMT
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The 2.8 was considered a weak engine, the 3.4 was reintroduced in 1973 to replace it. There were 22,555 series 1 2.8's built in total, out of 98,527 series 1 in total. The engines got replaced or the cars were scrapped... they haven't fared well. David Kelly's breakers at Wrexham has got a couple in there.
Unmodified cars are getting a bit rare now. The trace certificate I got (no free tax... grrr) shows that mine is still on it's original engine from the factory, so it's doing pretty well for itself!
A true reflection of the way they are thought of is in the value of the engine. A 4.2 engine will cost you £250 from most places. A 3.4 about £150. A 2.8? £50 or less.
A D reg car? That would make it a series 3. The gearbox in those is the uprated version of the Rover LT77 and a very sought after piece of kit!
As for updates, I've done a couple of bits but the weather's been awful; and I'm having trouble with uploading photo's. I'm also trying to avoid doing the rear discs this time, so might not have to drop the back axle. Yay!!
Regards
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Nice car, well done for saving it from the banger track. Your car doesn't need a passing mirror for the MOT - you only need a rear view mirror. Have a look at the 'obligatory mirrors' section here: www.motuk.co.uk/manual_810.htm
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Nice car, well done for saving it from the banger track. Your car doesn't need a passing mirror for the MOT - you only need a rear view mirror. Have a look at the 'obligatory mirrors' section here: www.motuk.co.uk/manual_810.htmThanks for that! Thanks for the link too. I thought it was the case but didn't feel like an argument. I'm going to fit mirrors both sides anyway, as I intend to cover quite a bit of the country in this car, and take it abroad next year. I've sourced some proper XJ6 early mirrors so all should be good! Regards Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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tux
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Fat Bloke
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Nice ride. Brings back happy memories for me.
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Nice ride. Brings back happy memories for me. Lovely car. What was it? 4.2 etc? was it yours? My Dad had one that was near identical to mine when I was a kid, that's what got me started. One of my earliest memories is being stood behind this great white monster of a car, being barely able to see over the boot lid! Regards Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Nov 23, 2009 14:30:08 GMT
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Okay so I spent the weekend gutting the white beast, in order to fit a new heater matrix. What a mare of a job! Some guy in Coventry must have started buiding the car starting with the matrix. The centre console, heater controls, dash, dash supports, steering column, and most of the main wiring harness had to be removed to get at it.
So after spending two days in a damp car working; it's now got a heater! Then the starter motor packed up...
Gory pictures of interior mess to follow when I get home. I'm not kidding when I say I haven't stripped this much out of a Jag unless I'm scrapping it. I learnt more about how that big old plank of wood that holds the gauges in is installed than I ever wanted to know!
Regards
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Nov 23, 2009 15:12:40 GMT
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these are nice cars. I nearly bought one to replace my Rover P5B. It would have to be a 4.2 in mine. On the number plates... it "should" have the ali plate with rivetted on plastic letters, it would have to be reflective. I got a tug from the law for black plates on a March or April reg'd 1973 Cortina. So they do check. www.pl8s.co.uk/1973-to-2001.phpBack in the early 80s Hot Car did a guide on how to convert your Jag XJ6 to a Ford small block V8. The 2 cars in the feature were probably bothe Series 1 cars. Ever since then I have had that at the back of my mind.
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2009 15:14:07 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 23, 2009 15:55:23 GMT
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I have a 4.2 engine (usually got two or three lying around!) tucked away, but I'm not going to remove the 2.8 while it runs nice. The 4.2 can be a fragile engine itself; the long head studs don't do it any favours.
A couple of my American chums run V8 converted Jags.
Regards
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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tux
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Fat Bloke
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Nov 28, 2009 21:31:08 GMT
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Hey Ric. Yeah, it was mine. Worked wonders for my sex life back when I was 19! ;D !t was the "baby" of the Jag family like yours, a 2.8, but that was plenty for me as I was still a stupid teenager without a clue about driving.
It went to meet its maker about 6 or 7 years ago, well over 10 years after I sold it. Still miss it when I see another out and about.
Glad it was you changing that heater matrix and not me, I know how much of a 'mare they are to do. Probably explains why so many cars had non working heaters!
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