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Dec 21, 2009 19:08:25 GMT
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Roll up! Get the gory heater pics here... I took pics on the way out but was too cheesed off to take pics when it was all going back together again. Took me two days (Book says 18 hours) so I wasn't too shabby at it. Here goes... Fist bit is to get rid of everything around the gear lever as the centre console/ armrest has to come out. It carries all the heater controls, and the window switches. I had taken the battery off at this point after finding some permanent "live"s on the switches. And thats the console out, with its heater ducts and everything. Allowing us to see... The heater plenum. All those little vacuum lines are what control the heater and they are swines. Next job is get the steering wheel off, the parcel shelves out and the top rail off. This means we can get the dash panels fixing screws uncovered. Like so... Then off come the dash panels themselves... Then the steering column and the framework that holds the dash in.... This means you can now pull the heater plenum chamber forwards by six inches or so... and there's the heater matrix!! This shows how far forwards it has to come. Those irons at the to secure the top of the dash frame. Then refitting is reverse of removal!!! ;D The vacuum system took me a bit of time to get back together but the rest went together okay. Just in time as the weather has turned now, so now more play until the snow goes away! More Jag work pics as it gets done. On the "To do" list are: Brakes (front caliper rebuilds, and new pads for rears.) Exhaust (front to back) Overdrive solenoid Engine tarting (more chrome shiny bits....) Other than that it'll have to do as the Series 2 XJ6's new supercharged engine arrives in the new year!! ;D Regards Ric
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Last Edit: Dec 21, 2009 19:11:02 GMT by richw82
"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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qwerty
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Dec 21, 2009 19:40:58 GMT
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Absolutely beautiful car! I love it. I will own a Jaaaaaag one day.
Also huge thanks for the guide pictures on how to sort stuff.
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Dec 21, 2009 19:55:35 GMT
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Thanks!! I always get frustrated looking round the net when everybody says something is a nightmare of a job but never shows how... so I always take pictures. I'm not the most computer savvy person in the world so it takes a little time but they all get on here eventually.
If you want a Jag, now iss the time, the old XJ series are staring to get more pricey.
Regards
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Dec 21, 2009 20:52:48 GMT
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Beautiful car I seem to remembering reading the problems with the 2.8 were down to them not being exercised enough - I.e. they were all driven gently and at low revs - consequently carbon deposits would build up on the head, valves and pistons and eventually something would get stuck somewhere, or clash, and smash something to bits. Jaguar did note this somewhere - like a technical update or in the handbook, can't remember - stating that the engine should be taken up to maximum revs at least once on a drive, a la Wankel rotaries. I don't know if that was actually the case but I seem to remember reading it from a pretty reliable source at the time!
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Last Edit: Dec 21, 2009 20:53:28 GMT by Lewis
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Dec 21, 2009 21:16:57 GMT
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Thanks for the compliments!
Its true about the engine. At low revs because it's a short stroke engine, the piston lingered around TDC too long and suffered from carbon deposits. The next time it was opened up after a long period of this, it would heat the carbon up enough to melt a piston. The 2.8 gained a bad reputation for it yet it's such a free revving sweet engine.
Jaguar test drivers couldn't make it replicate the problem as they were always thrashing the car. The last of the 2.8's (of which mine is) had better quality pistons and revised timing which was a partial cure... but there is a bulletin from Jaguar advising the car should be driven spiritedly once in a while (no problem there then...).
Regards,
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Dec 21, 2009 21:32:43 GMT
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Ah, cool - had hoped I wasn't just imagining things Thanks for the detail there, duly noted!
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djefk
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Dec 21, 2009 22:55:28 GMT
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Absolutely beautiful car - Rustproof the absolute hell out of it (make sure it's 100% dry before wax injecting - best method is to use a spray booth on a low temp for a day) and enjoy it.
What banger site did you get it from? It'd be nice if more people saved cars like this from getting raced.
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Dec 22, 2009 11:26:28 GMT
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Thanks mate. The car was on ovalchat, at the end of July - beginning of August. I phoned the guy up, made him a sensible offer and he accepted.
Regards
Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Right; time for a little update... hopefully with some more pictures later! The baby XJ has been behaving itself for a while now, being quite dependable, up until last weekend. After going out shopping (for a barbecue... and suitable stuff to put on the barbie) the clutch decided it's time had come, and refused to disengage. Unfortunately it decided to do this in the middle of the local Morrison's carpark. The drive home was interesting to say the least. Double declutching and rev matching were the order of the day, with junctions being taken by firing her up in 1st from rest. But, despite what everybody says about the build of these, the car took it all in its stride and got me home no problem. The next day I set about pulling the gearbox. I used an engine support bar and left the engine in the car. Total time to get the box out was 2 hours. Once I had the box on the floor; the problem with the clutch was easy to spot. The release bearing is a graphite wearing item, not a true bearing. This had worn down to the metal carrier. After a bit of frantic phoning around, I managed to find the correct 2.8 item. While the box is out, I've sent the overdrive off for rebuild as it's never worked; probably due to the butchered wiring and the resulting lack of a lockout on it. I've also set to replacing all the hoses, core plugs, and the water pumps going to have a rebuild in the next few days. I've also put the new shiny cylinder head nuts on, to dress the engine a little better. I've got to get this car to the Classic Le Mans... so it's got to be right! Regards, Ric
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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mrzee
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I have to admit that I have a real soft spot for Jags. My lad is trying to twist my arm at the moment to buy one because he wants to ride in one so much
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XL391
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May 11, 2010 18:47:54 GMT
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Beautiful car!! My dad had one when I was a nipper, I badly want one!! Can't believe that there was a chance this was going to get raced tho...
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May 11, 2010 22:34:50 GMT
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Thanks!
My Dad set me off. His car (now mine) from way back is in my other project thread! Once I decided I was going to have this car there was no way it was getting raced. Thankfully the guy who had it wasn't one of the more stubborn racers I've encountered and was quite happy to sell it.
Rich
ps. XL391? Not a reference to the old Blackpool Vulcan by any chance?
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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XL391
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May 11, 2010 22:43:51 GMT
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Ha! It is yeah! Used to see it quite a lot, my dad took me to see it just after it landed when I was a nipper. I've got one of her engine blanks in the garage from when she was scrapped! I had a look on that website you got the Jag from, i'm glad he wasn't stubborn...
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Last Edit: May 11, 2010 22:45:22 GMT by XL391
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bortaf
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May 11, 2010 22:44:55 GMT
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Awsome car Me mate used to break em, i picked up a manual V12 for him about 5 years ago he's retired now though, he recently sold his totaly restored 420 as well and cleared out a load of stuff I rent his yard off him now so i'll ask if he has any S1 bits left, he mainly did S2 towards the end, i do know he has a few engines and an IRS in the storage shed and a few filing cabinets of gauges and dash bits but no idea what they are off.
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R.I.P photobucket
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Feb 21, 2011 19:02:57 GMT
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Hi all, I figured it was about time to update this thread of mine. Shortly after my last post my Series 1, christened "Ropey" (because ... it is a bit..) set off for a visit to the Le Mans Classic. I was a little apprehensive as I'd never been, or done this kind of mileage in an old Jag before. Even more so given it was a banger track refugee. I did everything I could think of, fluids, belts, grease, service etc, and it paid off. Ropey didn't miss a beat. The weather changed almst as soon as we got off the ferry. We came out of the fog bank that covered the channel into glorious sunshine and crazily high temperatures. The first stranded car we came across was an E-type V12 that had succumbed to the heat, fuel was vapourising before it got to the carbs. There was nothing we could do for him, so we wished him well and carried on. As we got closer the numbers of classic/exotic machinery increased, we ended up following this guy into the camp site at Maison Blanche: First order of the day was get the gazebo up, and get some beer! Then a look around. Wow... words don't do it justice. if you are a petrolhead and haven't been, your life is incomplete. These were just some of the stuff we saw. The campsite itself was awash with dream machines... next to us was a Lotus 11, a Cobra, and a guy with a 1920's Bentley in a tent, with him sleeping in a bivvy at the side! ;D We met up with a couple of friends and went to the local village of Arnage. The idea was to wait until we could get on the track after the race. Did that sign say "Mulsanne" ? Oh yess!!! That was the highlight of last year. I will be back there in 2012. Rich
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Feb 21, 2011 19:21:29 GMT
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Update pt2. You don't win them all.... after Le Mans, I was feeling quite good. Then after several trips up and down the motorway and with the assistance of some, frankly, rather curse word petrol - Ropey's 2.8 engine said "No more." and did it's party trick. It ate the CROWN of its no1 piston. I was on the way back from Coventry when I felt it go. coming past J23 M1, on my way back to Chesterfield (J29) every now and again Ropey started to stumble. Then the stumble became a misfire. Then the miss was accompanied by a thin grey/blue smoke out the back. To it's credit, it made it back to my house, some 6 miles from J29, but by the time it did, it would barely idle and the oil pressure wasn't happy. A new engine was required... so the old one had to come out. If you've never done one of these, there is a little trick. Drive the car onto a couple of bricks, and you won't curse the thing for being too low to get the crane under the front... loser inspection proved this wasn't the first time it had thrown a tantrum. Or a rod.. I had the head off a while later and this is what was left of no 1 piston: I was disappointed, to be honest. It was a good little engine, and was the car's original. And of course I needed something to go back in here: Once again I turned to the racers, and they came up with the goods. A 3.4 litre unit in good running order close to where I lived had Ropey back on the road; terrorising lesser vehicles on country roads inside a fortnight. The 3.4 and standard back axle really pep things up. Then this lot arrived: A few hours digging saw me out. Surprisingly, the XJ6 is fairly surefooted in the snow, so long as you don't take it into the deep stuff. Once the belly of the car rests on it, game over. Ropey is now starting to look a little tired, so the series III is going to take over for a bit. That means I can spend a little time to redo the back axle, tidy the bodywork, and build up the 4.2 and triple SU's that I've been waiting to do for the last 6 months. Unless I find an XJR6 engine in the meantime.. Regards Rich
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Feb 21, 2011 21:26:02 GMT
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I'm now going to look for another series 1. Your fault.
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Feb 21, 2011 22:44:47 GMT
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Yeah, most people that know me blame me for setting them off. Brother, friends, Dad.
What can I say? I'm the bad influence with the best in taste.
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Feb 24, 2011 16:53:17 GMT
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Having a few days off, I've taken stock of what I have available and what I don't. For the last year or so I've had a 4.2 engine sat awaiting rebuild and a set of triple 2" SU carbs from a Mk 10. The idea is in the next month or so to get this engine rebuilt and get it inserted into the series 1. Attached to the manual box, and 2.8 back axle, it should be pretty exciting to drive. I'll post some pictures in the next few days to show those that have always wondered WHY the long stud XK engine is such a pain in the when it gets a few years on it. The good 3.4 engine that's in the Series 1 at the moment won't go to waste... it will go straight into my series 3 as a like for like replacement. So... to begin "Ropey"s retirement overhaul - An aid parcel arrived from SNG Barratts today with a gasket set for a 4.2, some chrome engine goodies, and a full set of windscreen seals. The new 4 pot brakes arrived a couple of weeks ago and have already been fitted. It's a fairly easy job, so long as you have uprights from a donor series 2 or 3. Swap everything between the ball joints and you're on a winner. Despite what some 'experts' say the master cylinder copes just fine. The car now stops really well, with no sign of fade! Good job too, given the hills around here and the way I drive... Rich
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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Mar 14, 2011 19:48:10 GMT
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Well, retirement for "Ropey" didn't last long. The SIII replacement kept misbehaving so the old beast took up the strain again. All was well, with 1200 miles a month being racked up faultlessly once more. Then the fan clutch packed up. Nursing the car up the motorway is not something I like doing, having seen the results of a fan seizing and coming off. Basically, the blade impaled itself through the bonnet and/or radiator like a mad axe murderer went and had a crack at things for fun. I made it home. Just. The only fan I had lying around was a SIII item and it was bigger. That was the first mistake. To cut a long story short... the fan came into contact with something, ssomething then snagged a hose. The hose got cut up, and decided after playing a game of dare with fan blades, that exiting forwards through the radiator with a couple of jubilee clips looked like fun. The car was a mile from home, and I'm pretty sure the impressive coolant stain on the road will still be there in 60 years time. So, lacking parts to fix it, I turned my eye to the SIII. By the time the third (or was it fourth?) lager was going down, it seemed a great idea to put the engine from the SI into the SIII. So I did. It looks a bit sorry for itself now, but on closer inspection the bodywork needs attention, the interior could do with a retrim, and I'm pretty sure on its last outing I could hear a handbrake pad eating a disc. So, the plan is to start the restoration here and now, and then look at putting a worthy successor to the legendary XK engine in that hole. In my mind there is only one contender. And it comes with with an Eaton M90 strapped to it's side. Ropey most definitely WILL live again. Rich
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"You're about as likely to come across a fully functioning old Jag, as you are a taxicab that smells agreeable." - James May
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