bazzateer
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No, not the sausage variety! Someone on the 'Camber' thread mentioned people with 'old bangers' which got me thinking............what in your eyes makes an old car an old banger instead of a retro/classic etc? Anyone care to enlighten me? FWIW I would probably call a car from the late 70s, 80s and 90s which is clearly not being 'cared' for an 'old banger'. Have some random pics:
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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alexg
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Well an old banger is I guess a car that is possibly on its last legs and maintained on a shoestring budget with no great thought to cosmetic or mechanical improvement. BTW that mental camber Golf made me smile, pitty post locked
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1979 'V' Austin Allegro Estate
1990 'G' Rover Metro GTI 1.8 VVC
1985 Sinclair C5
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MWF
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It was me that made the comment and I meant no disrespect to any particular makes, models or types of cars.
It was a dig aimed at members here who only seem interested in cheap old cars they can run around and have no real interest in the modified old cars that the forums community was originally built on.
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Old Bangersbriandamaged
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If it's old (and even if it isn't), and someone loves it enough to post threads on forums about it, seek out like-minded people into something similar, and spend weekends camped out in muddy fields looking at similar vehicles with aforementioned like-minded people, then that's enough for me.
Pigeonholes are for pigeons.
Your Ride-Your Way.
;D
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Old Bangersretrowagen1234
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If it's old (and even if it isn't), and someone loves it enough to post threads on forums about it, seek out like-minded people into something similar, and spend weekends camped out in muddy fields looking at similar vehicles with aforementioned like-minded people, then that's enough for me. Pigeonholes are for pigeons. Your Ride-Your Way. ;D pretty much what i was thinkin....
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bazzateer
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Well said Brian and others, pretty much as I see it too. My cars are firmly in the 'classic' era but they are also modified to my taste.
MWF, I for one didn't take your comment as criticism, it just made me think about different attitudes to cars hence this thread.
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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id class it as a old car that is just used as a car and thought of as disposable. something thats old, looked after modified etc is never a banger in my eyes
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never a banger just a project to someone whoes wikking to lavish the tlc
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97 volvo 940 turbo wagon 87 fiat strada abarth 78 gs1000 82 katana 1100 84 gsx1100 efe
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id class it as a old car that is just used as a car and thought of as disposable. something thats old, looked after modified etc is never a banger in my eyes ^WHS^ My own car, is, like Baz's cars, of the classic era and subtly modified. It looks like a banger, but I've had it 5 years, put new sills on it and intend to keep it for a very long time.
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Old Bangersretrowagen1234
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saying that in respect to that terminology my mk2 is probably a banger to most.... outwardly it looks like the hubcaps have fallen off and i just commute in it..
but its had a lot done in the last 6 months.. in new brakes , new fueltank, and gt steels with 165's on for better stability.. simply for piece of mind not because it needed it.... i like to take the car for mot and just let it pass rather than worry....
see sig link for pics....
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To most non car people an old banger is the same thing as a retro or modern classic, they need to see wire wheels seperate wings and big upright chrome grills to see "Classic car"
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Old BangersKnugcab
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I don't know actually. I was told on a swedish Mercedes forum that my W123 is just an old banger and not an enthusiast car, because it is too new too have any status as a classic, and too common and bland to be interesting in any other way, and that it would have been a different story with a W126 that was more expensive and more special when new. That may be correct, but I wonder if that's the whole story. I wonder if it's not up to the owner a bit too... If running cheap (no touch-up paint, let the sh*theap rust instead, new brake hoses? Nah, I'll fix my old ones with duct tape... Fourth gear not working? Nah, a gearbox costs more than the car, let's scrap it. Alloys? Banded steelies? Why, it rolls equally good on rusty 13" steelies with three different Halfords hubcaps.) is everything and much more important than keeping the car in good condition and make it look cool, then it's just a banger. But if there is interest and soul put into a car, I think that it belongs here (you don't change the worn out starter or alternator on your rusty daily because you want to, you do it because you have to, and that's not very much soul put into that), because as said here, everything has potential, and in my eyes, this site is more like doing stuff to the cars you can have and afford, rather than a club for exclusive automobiles.
Then someone still may call my merc "just a banger" here since it's not very retro and not very modified, and that may be true. But I like to keep such a nice example quite standard. I still am putting some personal touches into it, I just have to find the pieces that I want to have... Because, to be honest, would my merc look better than today if I rusted the bonnet, slammed it, with lots of camber and heavy stretch over 14x10" wheels, put on a roof rack, yellow fog lamps and a lot of stickers? I would quickly change it into that, but that's not retro-ness, that's just stupidity in my eyes. Not to blame anyones taste, just as an example because it would honestly look terrible on my car and ruin the looks, soul and feeling completely.
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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bortaf
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Well an old banger is I guess a car that is possibly on its last legs and maintained on a shoestring budget with no great thought to cosmetic or mechanical improvement. ( That pretty much sums it up for me
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will
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Thought I might be seeing something like this upon opening this thread Back to topic its surely all a matter of taste and personal opinion one fellas tut is another's holy grail for me broken plastic singular hub cap = banger but that could be some too cool rat thing i don't understand
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Yup.. people have tried to turn RR into an old banger forum... RR started off talking about this : But somehow now seems to have a lot of this : * This is usually because they don't have a place to talk about their cars, they aren't classic cars, so not welcome on PC, they aren't obscure autoshite, I guess they don't fit with NSJC? So.. where do they go? One suspects it is a sign there needs to be a BangerNomics forum... it is why RR started as we kept on talking about non-VWs on VZi *this is g40Jon's car BEFORE he did stuff to it, so not a slight against him.
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Last Edit: Oct 1, 2009 21:32:22 GMT by HoTWire
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tri
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Difficult question. Would generally say something that has things glaringly obviously wrong with them that could be fixed with a little TLC or elbow grease, but no real skill or effort... e.g. faded paint / missing wheel trims / loose bits of trim.
My cars actually in danger of becoming an old banger atm. It's partly in primer and making all sorts of rattles... I know I'm in the process of getting it off the road to get it all ship shape properly, but as far as outward appearances go: it may appear I'm just running an old banger into the ground.
Blanket statements are often unfair really.
ANYWAY. The fact that thread got locked made me sad too. It was necessary though as it had gone off the rails. The original post made me giggle though.
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I forgot how to retro...
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stealthstylz
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Old Bangersstealthstylz
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I'd class my Carlton as an old banger. However its in the process of being cherished, wheels are nearly ready to go on and i'm 90% of the way to making a set of ajustable coilovers for it.
Matt
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I´m with Russ on this one... old bangers are just future projects that haven´t started yet...or as my misses would put... "wrecks you haven´t bought yet" ;D
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rtlkyuubi
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hehe as oldbus said, its just part way through restoration: ;D
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stealthstylz
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Old Bangersstealthstylz
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I had a bit of a think about this last night. I decided that an old banger is a car that has been bodged/had the bare minimum of cheap repairs to get it through the MOT each year and no other routine maintenance.
This discounts my car from being a banger, as its actually been very well looked after.
Matt
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