Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Dec 29, 2009 15:40:42 GMT
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Good to see some more photos of this Plenty of niggling faults to keep you busy. I have to say I appreciate German and Swedish build quality more than ever now! But it's a load of fun. ;D Don't forget you're dealing with the build quailty of a small, almost kit car, manufacturer that has then been messed about with for more than 40 years!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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rysz
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Dec 29, 2009 16:06:49 GMT
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Good to see some more photos of this Plenty of niggling faults to keep you busy. Dean described and showed me the wiring that was 'installed' for one of the horns! Seth, do you have a wiring diagram for a herald? Assuming that the dash and electrics are intended to be Herald? It is really just so quirky though it is great! Rysz.
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Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Dec 29, 2009 16:25:51 GMT
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Seth, do you have a wiring diagram for a herald? Assuming that the dash and electrics are intended to be Herald? I imagine the wiring loom would be mostly Herald. Keep an eye out for a PM
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Dec 29, 2009 17:02:41 GMT
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I have to say I appreciate German and Swedish build quality more than ever now! But it's a load of fun. ;D Don't forget you're dealing with the build quailty of a small, almost kit car, manufacturer that has then been messed about with for more than 40 years! That's very true. I haven't often owned cars that have been messed with to any great extent. I'll get through it though! I think I'll need to give the carbs some TLC as I couldn't get it to fire up today. Partly due to me flooding it because I haven't developed the "knack" for starting it yet, partly because of the damp freezing conditions, but I think they do need cleaning / setting up. A wiring diagram for said car would be magic! I'm working on getting hold of a Vitesse 6 / GT6 manual, as I think that would be closest to what I have.
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Last Edit: Dec 29, 2009 17:03:46 GMT by BenzBoy
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Dec 29, 2009 17:54:41 GMT
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Ah, I found my Herald/Vitesse manual! Something else I should have ensured you could have taken away at the time...
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1986 Citroen 2CV Dolly Other things. Check out my Blog for the latest! www.hubnut.org
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Mark
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Dec 30, 2009 23:16:31 GMT
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You're crazy man!!! Good work
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good save chaps!!!!
for some reason dean i think that car suits you entirely ;D
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"quote hairnet"
I'm not paying nine pound for a pi$$!
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Jan 11, 2010 15:45:26 GMT
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Because of the snow and Baltic temps, I've not been doing much apart from sitting on eBay buying little bits for the car. As it started to thaw a bit this morning and the temperature nudged the heady heights of +1degC I thought I'd sort out the fuel filler cap. When I got it, it had one of them emergency caps and a bit of alu pipe wedged in, directing the fuel in the rough direction of the tank. Obviously I had to sort this out, and I had the added challenge of finding a filler neck too as I needed the locking cap to lock to something! ;D After a bit of research, an MGB cap and neck looked a likely candidate - I have no idea what the original one looked like, or which firm's parts bin Bond used! ;D ^ Looked ideal. The right diameter and chrome too, nice. The filler cap sits right above the tank on the Equipe, so I only needed a short filler neck and a short rubber pipe to join it. So I chopped it... Now, here's where it gets a bit complicated. I was looking at the pipe on the fuel tank and its position relating to the hole where the cap / filler neck fits, and they were way out of alignment. I had thought that the fuel tank may not be an original item or something. Then I leaned on the tank, and it moved about an inch. Hmm... I grabbed the tank and gave it a wiggle and it moves about all over the place! The tank sits in the boot behind the near-side rear arch. I stuck my head behind the tank to see what was up, and it looks a bit crusty behind there, on the inner arch and floor. I think the brackets have come away from the floorpan. Possibly rusted out, or possibly just loose bolts... not sure yet! I can also see fuel vapours floating around in the torchlight, and it has always smelled of fuel in there. I might possibly have a slightly leaky tank too. Not to worry! Tomorrow I'll be draining the fuel out of the tank (somehow... hopefully avoiding a gobfuls of petrol!) and removing it to see what's what. There's a troubling amount of wood being employed in that area too... ;D Hopefully the tank won't be all that bad and I can patch it up with some repair putty - I'll never find another tank so if it's too far gone I'll be applying some lateral thought to parts sourcing! ;D Maybe a Mini... or even a racing fuel cell... Sorry for the lack of photos - there was a lot of fuel vapour floating around and I wanted to keep sources of ignition to a minimum! ;D
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Jan 11, 2010 17:57:01 GMT
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i repaired the seeping tank on my bond dean ,i did it with the POR product [cant remember full name] you pour it in and rotate the tank for a bit and let it go off ,it worked a treat !! it may be just the job as if you had a bad leak you would surely know about it!! don't worry too much about the wood ! just tell people it was handbuilt by morgan !!!
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Jan 11, 2010 19:13:36 GMT
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I'm hoping I won't have to do any welding - not really the weather for it! Although as it isn't in an MOTable area (I think... separate chassis and that...) I'll probably secure the tank and come back to the welding when it's finer weather. We'll see! ;D
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DutyFreeSaviour
Europe
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Jan 11, 2010 19:18:23 GMT
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Wondered who had beaten me to grabbing this...... thanks for saving me from myself (until you sell on ) All small niggles and easily tackled fella I'm sure. Good luck with it all. I seriously love these things but have never been in one - so dibs on a spin one day Deano - swap you for a track blast in the GT at RR10 Keeping a parental eye on this one ;D John
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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Nathan
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SNathan
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Jan 11, 2010 19:20:41 GMT
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If you get stuck fella you can always plonk it in my garage and do the work, thus being out of the elements.
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Jan 11, 2010 19:51:00 GMT
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Jeepers! Terrifying what you find out about your old cars... By the way - Saab jammed a caliper last week, so these 'modern cars' aren't all plain sailing either!
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1986 Citroen 2CV Dolly Other things. Check out my Blog for the latest! www.hubnut.org
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Jan 11, 2010 20:10:24 GMT
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Jeepers! Terrifying what you find out about your old cars... By the way - Saab jammed a caliper last week, so these 'modern cars' aren't all plain sailing either! Argh - Hope it didn't leave you stuck anywhere. I suppose it's just cars in general. Keeps us on our toes! ;D Thanks for the comments everyone, this car has given me a break from the Merc, and strangely it's restoring my enthusiasm for that car too.
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Jan 11, 2010 20:47:30 GMT
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Yup. Beats paying depreciation says I! Glad you're enjoying the Benzbreak Bondboy!
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1986 Citroen 2CV Dolly Other things. Check out my Blog for the latest! www.hubnut.org
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johnrh
Part of things
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Jan 12, 2010 21:01:08 GMT
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That's a great old car. Underneath the bodges and DIY paint, it's a very stylish shape as well. It needs a more flattering colour I think, when you get round to a respray. As a period suggestion. what about the beautiful grey metallic that a lot of Series 1 E-types had? Be very careful about fitting wider wheels; could be dangerous. Assuming it's got a swing axle, don't add more grip at the back wheels unless you first lower and stiffen the rear suspension. More grip at the outside rear wheel will make the swing-axle "jacking" oversteer happen more often and even more suddenly. You do not want that! There are several ways to make the swing-axle work a lot better (give me a shout if you're planning to upgrade suspension) but more grip with no other mods will take you straight to the scene of the accident! John
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Mark
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Jan 12, 2010 22:56:07 GMT
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Hey dude, Once you whip out the tank post up a couple of pics if you can, might be worth a quick poke around ebay to see if you could bodge in some other tank!
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Jan 17, 2010 17:53:54 GMT
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Wondered who had beaten me to grabbing this...... thanks for saving me from myself (until you sell on ) All small niggles and easily tackled fella I'm sure. Good luck with it all. I seriously love these things but have never been in one - so dibs on a spin one day Deano - swap you for a track blast in the GT at RR10 Keeping a parental eye on this one ;D John Thanks John! You're welcome to have a spin in it any time. I'd love a go in the GT, it sounds terrifying! ;D If you get stuck fella you can always plonk it in my garage and do the work, thus being out of the elements. Cheers! I'll definitely come for a visit soon - I need to have a look at your new retro, when you get it! Johnrh - It would look great in that colour, I agree. It will be a while before I can afford to do anything like that though, and it'd be behind the Benz in the paint queue! Thanks for the suspension tips too, I'll give you a PM about it! Mark - Took some pics! Luckily the tank seems in good condition! good save chaps!!!! for some reason dean I think that car suits you entirely ;D I don't know if that's a compliment or not, Jack! ;D ;D Right, some progress! ^ Siphoning the tank ready for removal. I also disconnected the battery as I figured sparks + petrol vapour is a bad thing! This method got most of it out, and I used a squeezy siphon pump to get the rest out. Inside it looks very clean - no bits floating about or anything. That was a pleasant surprise! ^ So I removed the one, loose screw holding the fuel tank in, and wrestled it out. This platform is steel, and is fibreglassed in place (the rest of the boot floor is GRP). Unfortunately it wasn't very secure as it had come away from the fibreglass in places. It's not a structural part, and the brackets are supposed to bear most of the weight of the tank, so I wasn't too concerned. The surface rust wasn't that bad once I'd wire-brushed it, and I gave it a lick of Hammerite to stop it rusting too badly. At least until I do a more involved resto at some point, at which point I'd probably replace that panel. I have to keep in mind that this can't be a restoration at this point - simply running repairs. I make sure everything goes back better than it was before though. ^ The tank. It's in good shape. No leaks, no real rust and no junk inside it. Marvellous. ^ I gave the bottom of the tank a coat of WaxOyl underseal. There was a bit of surface rust and I figured as this part would be susceptable to rust I'd give it a fighting chance. ^ I marked out where I needed the tank to sit, so that the filler neck lines up with the hole in the body. The chassis had no holes to take bolts to attach the tank to, so I can only assume it had been held by one single bolt from new! There is evidence of a minor bump on that corner so possibly it was then that the tank wasn't replaced properly. Either way, it's been like this a loooong time. Meh. Enough detective work! I drilled holes and bolted the tank in, using a rubber mount on the front one to raise the tank a little and help with vibrations. It's all nice and solid now. ^ And here's the MGB locking filler cap in place! I need to renew the hose from the tank, but on further inspection the fuel line consists of a bit of rusty steel pipe, then some very old looking rubber hose along the chassis rail to the pump. Seeing as the tank is empty I might as well replace the whole lot, so the old rubber hose will be coming out and replaced with solid pipe, right the way along the car. I'm not sure how the current set-up would fare on the next MOT anyway. Plus, it's peace of mind - I'll know that all the fuel line is new and secure.
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johnrh
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Jan 17, 2010 18:25:04 GMT
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Good work, and nice/lucky to find the tank in such good condition
John
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Jan 17, 2010 22:23:56 GMT
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Thanks John, yes I'm really pleased that the tank is good. I didn't fancy trawling the scrappy / eBay for a suitable replacement!
I've PM'd you regarding the suspension, but feel free to post it in here instead if you like as I just thought, it may be useful to others. One thing I don't think I can do is lower the front end - it's quite low already but a bigger problem would be that I wouldn't be able to open the flip-front. It already hits the floor if I'm on a slight incline.
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