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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Apr 24, 2011 18:06:44 GMT
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Thanks guys! Mdh - I think the wheels would possibly fit on the "wrong" way around but I'd have mental negative offset! ;D I might try one just for a laugh. Next task after the door is finished is prepping for paint. That's not going to be an easy task. All the yellow Dulux needs to come off. Aggressive power tools could very easily go too far and take down the gel coat, or destroy a delicate swage line. The body is full of curves so care is going to be needed whichever method is used, and it's going to take a LOT of time and elbow grease.
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Colonelk
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SColonelk
@colonelk
Club Retro Rides Member 83
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Did mdh not mean actually reversing them? y'know... flipping the centre That WOULD be epic
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Apr 25, 2011 11:31:50 GMT
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mental offset is always a win! ;D
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Koos
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Apr 25, 2011 22:49:20 GMT
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we went to a soda blaster near us the other night dean, he reckons he can get paint of fibreglass with no damage at all - might be worth seeinf if here's one local to you - this guy charges 100 quid an hour, but might not take too long to just do the glass / fiddly bits??
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Apr 25, 2011 23:37:11 GMT
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About 4 hours to strip a car if you believe the ads...
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Koos
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Fit the wheels the wrong way around! Fit the wheels the wrong way around! Fit the wheels the wrong way around! ;D The small brakes would fit inside the recess in the wheel, making it all safe and stuff, do it! ;D But yes, it'll also look awesome the way you intend doing it
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Apr 26, 2011 10:53:44 GMT
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Fit the wheels the wrong way around! Fit the wheels the wrong way around! Fit the wheels the wrong way around! ;D What are you trying to say Dude? I'm not quite getting it ;D
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Koos
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MrSpeedy
East Midlands
www.vintagediesels.co.uk
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Apr 26, 2011 18:56:13 GMT
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I'm liking them rims. The black looks cool as against the yellow, but I can see the silver working well with the blue too
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
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Apr 28, 2011 17:40:06 GMT
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Thanks fellas! I think farming out the prep work is going to be well beyond my budget. I'd love to send it to be sand blasted but cash is tight. It's going to have to be a case of time and elbow grease I reckon! I've been doing more... The driver's door had a fair old crease in it which needed to come out. My bro Street came to visit, and seeing as he knows more about this kind of thing than me I set him about getting the worst of it out. ^ Still dented, but better than it was. With a bit of filler it'll look OK. Before that though, Guru Street's parting words before setting off back to his workshop was "shrink the metal". The panel was quite "baggy" and needed tightening up, so I armed myself with one of these: Some of this: And stripped all the paint off the affected area. After applying plenty of heat, I quenched it with water and got it tight again. It was still in need of filler, so whilst I was skimming the door bottoms over, I trowelled on the jollop applied filler to the dent. ^ Just before I started to lose the will to live after filling and sanding countless times, it was done. ^ I gave the area a blast of filler primer. It's almost done. As I was sanding down the paint near the front of the door to treat some rust, I uncovered a previous repair with some filler. It's done to a decent standard but I didn't expect to find any. Still, it'll look fine once it's done. Providing the weather's good tomorrow I'll get that area sorted then key the rest of the panel for primer. There are small localised rusty areas all over the panel which slows things down as I have to sand them down and treat them, but I'll get through it. I can't wait to get tyres for the wheels and fit them but priority at the minute is the bodywork. I'd like to get the car in paint during May.
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Apr 29, 2011 18:56:00 GMT
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This car makes me happier than when I actually owned it. Serious respect for the low-budget salvation!
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Kyle67
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Apr 29, 2011 19:15:23 GMT
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Have you remembered to put drain holes back in the door bottoms?
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
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Apr 29, 2011 20:16:55 GMT
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This car makes me happier than when I actually owned it. Serious respect for the low-budget salvation! Thanks Ian! Bodywork isn't really my strong suit, I'm still improving. And ideally I wouldn't be welding up these doors which really should be binned and better ones sought, but as you say it's low budget and I've had to compromise! Glad you're enjoying the build, after all it's been through and being saved by you from the jaws of the crusher I feel like I owe it a second chance! Have you remembered to put drain holes back in the door bottoms? The drain holes are coming, I plan to drill holes at the very bottom of the door skins on the inside every 6in or so. After it's painted I'll Waxoyl the doors too - I'm a bit worried about contamination and paint reaction if I use it beforehand. I've done more work on the doors while the Royal wedding was on. Not much to report really, just more sanding and painting!
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
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Went to the F.U.C.E.M. RR meet today and conversation came around to getting the paint off the Bond. After throwing around various ideas, it was suggested that I actually try hand-sanding before dismissing it! Alistair offered coffee, cake and a crack at fetching some paint off with various grades of sandpaper, just to see how easy / hard it might be. ^ The Bond being dwarfed by Yank iron at Chez Akku. ^ Well, that came off surprisingly quickly with a sanding block and some 80 grit - Alistair conducted the test. Looks like it'll be a case of taking it all off by hand after all. There is a slight problem though. The sanding revealed gelcoat crazing, although it seems to be restricted to that rear corner. It's had a bump at some stage in its life and we think this has caused the cracking. ^ Crazy paving... The rest of the body looks to be in better shape, although that won't be fully known until all that yellow glop has been sanded off. It seems logical that the crazing should be just around the area of impact though. This leaves us with a bit of a problem - how to deal with the crazing. Alistair went into the depths of his garage and pulled out a tin of this: Polyester spray filler. A bit of an internet search shows that it can be used to remedy crazing although there wasn't a great deal of info out there. It's one possibility though. I've borrowed Alistair's sanding gear and am going to arrange prepping it some time soon! In other news I need to have a look at the gearbox detents as it's sometimes tricky to get 4th gear. At least I can do that whilst sat in the drivers seat though! ;D
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Last Edit: May 1, 2011 15:30:37 GMT by BenzBoy
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Soda blast the whole thing would be the easiest.I havent got my soda blaster yet though IIRC the way to fix gel coat crazing is to sand off the damaged gel coat and use a spray on gel coat like Flo Coat. Filler will just crack again.
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Koos
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drpete
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reface doen't like paint its alright on bare filler/ steel or glass fibre but it really doen't like paint it soften the paint under it and will movecousing cracks and it get worse over time, it you are going to use it the panel has to be really dry it it air dryed it can take days to dry, with your crazing i would say get the grinder out chase the crazing and reglass it with fine tissue glass, its less bulky and easier to rub down
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a spray on gel coat like Flo Coat. Please tell us more of this Flo Coat? I was concerned spray filler would be a band aid. I have some better pics of the crazing, I'll upload later.
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IIRC, flow coat is basically gelcoat, but it will cure in contact with air, whereas gel coat remains tacky, so that the subsequent layer of matting will adhere properly. It's often used to seal the back of grp matting, and also sprayed on to build up the gelcoat thickness. Used in boat building and repair, so a marine suppliers or chandlery is probably the best place to source it.
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^ exactly what he said!
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Koos
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
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Thanks for all the advice mdh, drpete and Paul H! Hopefully something like a sprayable flow coat will do the trick. I just hope that the crazing is limited to that area.
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