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Aug 22, 2010 19:09:37 GMT
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Things are storming along at the moment. It's amazing how much faster the painting goes when I don't have to strip the panel back to bare metal, treat rust and fill dents. Today I'm ahead of schedule, which has me grinning quite a lot. With a little help from the significant other I got the doors out of the cellar and onto the lawn. I'd already got the blue sliding glass out of the white door and removed the chunky bumpstrip, but I can't get the quarter light out, frustratingly. We then pulled off the door handles and mirrors ready for paint. I thought I ought to check the doors were the same for the door cards I'm making. The white door is from a newer car, possibly a Parade model, and has a slightly different release handle which I'll swap for my old one, blue tinted glass, cable-operated door mirror and a strengthening/side impact bar. However, the shape of the door card and the metalwork is essentially identical so all is good. Next job was to make a template for my new, flat door cards. They'll have a slight compound curve due to the shape of the inside of the door, but should look nice and smart. Took some time to flat back the paint on the old door. Surprisingly there was only a small amount of rust on the underside which was easily dealt with. Then I could get the firstcoat of black on. It's so much faster without the pfaff of stripping back to bare metal and removing rust and priming. Makes me a happy bunny. Took the wire brush to the bumpstrip glue on the white door, happily getting to use the new drill after the old cheap one was burnt out from the last visit to the workspace. First coat of black and an alternative colour option should I get bored of the red further down the line... but I'm going to resist the urge to Art Deco the car for now. Interior of the tailgate painted. Needs a second coat and the glass fitting to be finished. Bonnet now finished. What car today would be complete without stickers? I'm keeping to stickers for the places I update the build thread at and a couple of funny-because-they're-true type stickers. More soon, I have no doubt.
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Aug 22, 2010 19:16:45 GMT
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Great Work as allways ;D
Cant wait to see this all back together ;D
Traditional Coachpainting Rules and you have certainly got the Knack of it ;D
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Aug 22, 2010 20:19:51 GMT
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Practice makes perfect I guess. Weekend of 10th September should see the car back in one piece and ready for it's MoT, I hope and then, THEN I can get out and terrorise the roads in it
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Little update this time. My new bumper arrives tomorrow, which I'm excited about. Today I put the petrol filler flap back together, being sure to touch up the red where it got slightly damaged due to the way the hinge fits back in one piece. Red hinges are going to be carried throughout the car so that it's a nice matching detail. Then, after flatting back the black on the doors, I put the second coat on. Some detritus had got on the panels from somewhere so I had to flat that out too. One more coat of black should see the paint ready for polishing. The red (which looks nearly like it does in real life in this picture, rather than the usual pinkish hue) needs another two coats to be finished, ideally. In other news, I've been playing about on Photoshop for ideas to do to the car further down the line. 1 - First solid idea. 2 - Revised, but not entirely happy with the rear valance. 3- Something completely different, with 80s styling queues for the fastback look, the spats and the door pillar. Very tempting indeed but a larger investment of time and funds than I can afford at the moment. 4 - Back to the start, with a slanted chop 5 - My favourite so far, the addition of some modest fins and a remodelled valance helping to pull the rear end together better. 6 - Don't like this, but put it in for the sake of completeness. 7 - Current thoughts. I've also been tempted by these, done by user "The Pop Shop" over on Rods and Sods. The truck variation is VERY tempting and I reckon the pseudo-saloon could be made to work too with a little bit of fettling.
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Roobeh
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yeah, number 7 looks nice .i must say that this has given me naughty thoughts for the kay-one-one.
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Now a custom K11 is something I'd like to see. I only have one problem now, which is how any of the above sheet metal modifications would affect my insurance. Would it be classed the same as fitting a bodykit, for example, or would it just make my insurance impossible? Should ask when I go quote hunting again at the end of the month.
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BiMU
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Hi mate,
Just read through most of your entire thread and I must say it's looking really good! Love the quirky interior and your relentlessness!
Keep it up!
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dw1603
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Aug 26, 2010 14:57:32 GMT
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Aug 26, 2010 15:19:44 GMT
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BiMU - Thank you Plodding away at the moment with paint, hopefully get some pictures of that tonight, didn't get chance last night because I didn't have good enough light to work by. @dw - I hadn't seen that build before, and while I question the longevity of a foam car, I do think that the guy who build the thing was inspired to do what he did. It's like a crazy 1960s show car brought right up to date and looks like it should be in a game like Carmaggedon. Awesome stuff, even if it's not entirely to my taste.
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dw1603
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Aug 26, 2010 15:45:43 GMT
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@dw - I hadn't seen that build before, and while I question the longevity of a foam car, I do think that the guy who build the thing was inspired to do what he did. It's like a crazy 1960s show car brought right up to date and looks like it should be in a game like Carmaggedon. Awesome stuff, even if it's not entirely to my taste. I agree on the final result, but it's not about taste, it's about technique. If you plan to do some pretty radical mods to the Polo, then this is a method that doesn't involve metal shaping and welding. As for longevity, I reckon that a closed cell foam finished with car body filler and paint would be pretty durable (mis-spent youth bodging up Cortina wings and arches!) Regarding your fender skirts, one idea that would avoid metal bashing is to carve a form from a block of dense foam, this could then be skinned with fibreglass and finished with filler then painted. Carve out the inside as necessary to clear the wheel and skin with fibreglass making it tough and weather resistant. Then you just need to devise a means of mounting the skirts. Lots of (somewhat simplified) info on eHow - here's a link: www.ehow.com/how_6652358_make-motorcycle-fiberglass-parts.htmlRegards, DW
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Aug 26, 2010 15:57:40 GMT
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I'm going to be re-evaluating the spats/fender skirts when I go to the workspace next to fit the bumpers that I've got so we'll have to see what happens on that score since it will change what sort of metal work is and isn't done.
The more I've thought about the spats/fender skirts, the more metal is going to be the better option given how much bodywork will need to be done to fit them. I'm going to have to extend the bottom of the arches and make the rear of the car longer anyway and it makes more sense to do that in metal than not. I'm also trying to employ as many traditional methods as I can, and I genuinely don't like the idea of using expanded foam to make shapes on my car, I'd far rather get a welder and some sheet steel to do the job. Fibreglass has the main advantages of being lightweight and rustproof, but it's much more fragile than metal and not something I enjoy working with at all due to the smell and the itchy fibres that get everywhere.
However, I am still very open to suggestions. I suspect metal is going to be the easiest option for me to follow given my experience, tools and helpers, but it might end up not being the most suitable option for all of the work required. We shall see.
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Aug 27, 2010 13:32:38 GMT
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Looking good, love the idea of the skinny chrome imp bumpers, much more hearse like.
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Aug 27, 2010 14:53:00 GMT
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Hadn't considered that, I just wanted chrome bumpers... but I suspect you're right. I'll have to get some skinny chrome bars to make a flower rack on the back of the roof too now
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ratta
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Aug 27, 2010 19:40:12 GMT
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Cant wait to see this finished ;D Nice to see some1 doin somethin abit different
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dw1603
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Aug 27, 2010 22:19:12 GMT
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The more I've thought about the spats/fender skirts, the more metal is going to be the better option given how much bodywork will need to be done to fit them. I'm going to have to extend the bottom of the arches and make the rear of the car longer anyway and it makes more sense to do that in metal than not. I'm also trying to employ as many traditional methods as I can, and I genuinely don't like the idea of using expanded foam to make shapes on my car, I'd far rather get a welder and some sheet steel to do the job. Fibreglass has the main advantages of being lightweight and rustproof, but it's much more fragile than metal and not something I enjoy working with at all due to the smell and the itchy fibres that get everywhere. However, I am still very open to suggestions. I suspect metal is going to be the easiest option for me to follow given my experience, tools and helpers, but it might end up not being the most suitable option for all of the work required. We shall see. Found this post on the H.A.M.B. that you might find useful: www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62058It will take a bit of adaptation to suite a Polo, but the principle looks good. I like the chrome bumpers too. Best wishes, DW
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Aug 27, 2010 23:58:42 GMT
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Ratta: I like to do different, but this one has been giving me a headache as I make my plans for what I want to change on it next summer as you'll see at the bottom of this entry. DW: I've been trying to remember what H.A.M.B. was called since my last update to try and find just such a thread, THANK YOU. I have added that to my favourites since I think I'll be making use of that. To suit the Polo I need to modify the bottom of the arches, but I had a play on Photoshop earlier today with an old picture to get a crude image up for the proposed proportions after all the information I've been given. Was inspired in no small part by the Austin A40 Farina and Riley/Wolseley Elf/Hornet. The tailgate would probably remain stock with the valance and wings pulled back, the chrome bumper trimmed and slotted between or even a continental kit added.
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Update time, again. This bank holiday weekend will see the paint on the bits I can do here finished and next week I'll be moving on to the interior, finally. As you can see in my previous post, the custom plan has come along further and is getting closer to what I want to do eventually. I'll probably start the new metal work next year, insurance permitting of course. So, on to today's update I suppose. 6 brass door pulls from eBay for 1p + £2.50 postage? Yes please and thank you. Nice long screws to fix them to the door cards and just the right size for my hands. Interior of both doors given the first coat of black. The white one needs flatting and giving a second coat and while the blue doesn't need it, I'll do it anyway for completeness. The hinges will go red. Outside of this door finished all bar a good polish and the refitting of the various bits of trim. Well chuffed. Finish isn't as good on this one, but again should polish out okay. Mind you, I got my masking a bit wrong, so I'll have to fix this. At least it's an easy job.
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dw1603
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Aug 28, 2010 10:23:48 GMT
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DW: I've been trying to remember what H.A.M.B. was called since my last update to try and find just such a thread, THANK YOU. My pleasure. Your Photoshop reminds me a little of an Austin 1100 estate, which I always thought was the prettiest of the ADO 16 range. DW
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Last Edit: Aug 28, 2010 10:39:58 GMT by dw1603
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Aug 28, 2010 11:59:27 GMT
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That's pretty much exactly what I'm going for overall. I never knew that Austin existed, excellent find there.
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