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You don't even need to retain the floorpans on a beetle....just the central spine which is classed as a chassis. Keep the engine & box (or two other components that equate to three points) and you can pretty much do what you want with the rest. I'd keep the suspension & steering then put a different engine in there....looking at the boot area behind the rear axle there should be plenty of room for a nice Porsche flat 6. Air cooled of course I'm afraid that is no longer the case as although the floorpans do not constitute part of the chassis DVLA now require them to be there to retian original identity Bottom of this link www.the-ace.org.uk/Chassis-and-Monocoque-Modification.html
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You don't even need to retain the floorpans on a beetle....just the central spine which is classed as a chassis. Not sure where.... but I think read somewhere that the DVLA engineers have revised the rule on bug chassis's. It's not retrospective (as usual) but from now on all new bug based kits and customs have to keep the bugs original floor pan integrated into the design and build. I'm pretty sure I'll be corrected by several thousand 'bugers' if there's no truth in this.... but either way we'll find out. Regardless of whether 2 million bugers believe it not to be true it IS . That's why ACE is here , to provide the truth of rumours with supporting links or direct quotes from DVLA /VOSA /DfT Policy /Tech depratments.
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Many thanks for clearing that up. I based the comment on the 'original' rules rather than current rumour. I hadn't realised myself that the rules had been changed - another reason why having your knowledge and advice is so very much appreciated Kev. (and you as well Arrocuda ) Not that I need it, but just to clarify.....I'm assuming you could replace the original floor pan with a set of new pans as long as they are the same as the originals (i.e. repair panels) or are the DVLA stating that you have to keep the actual original pans? My assumption is on the whole issue that it is fine to replace panels & make repairs as long as they are the same spec/shape/material as the originals? Thanks again Kev. ;D
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Yes, you can repair the pan halves , or replace with repair panels,and they don't have to be the originals as fitted when it left the factory but they must still remain attached . We are still working away in the background clarifying regs slowly but surely plus checking that they are being fairly applied by DVLA Local Offices
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I'm guessing that the identity it would retain would be the Beetle rather than the Jetta though?
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qwerty
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Thumbs up to aceadvices clarifications! Very interesting!
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I'm guessing that the identity it would retain would be the Beetle rather than the Jetta though? It would get a new identity . Reg would remain as VW Beetle but description on V5C would have to change to reflect its new appearance but you are not allowed to use Copyright names . Maybe something like Folkswagin Jet-R would be acceptable
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mileymanb
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Jul 28, 2010 11:21:33 GMT
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Spotted this at Bug-Jam...WOW. Very similar to Type Two Detectives MK3 Golf but should be epic when finished!
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rolphy
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Jul 28, 2010 11:57:19 GMT
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didnt expect to see this on here, this is my mate matts project, he was still working on it on the friday just to get it up for the show, obviously at the moment its way off completion but I'm sure heel get it finished, not sure if anyone went bug jam last year but he had a rat karmann ghia which was awesome too, as for those saying its nothing original to be honest i think its going to start being hard to find anything thats original and hasnt been done in the vw scene before long but i know i certainly wouldnt be able to build something like that, good to see a few on here appreciating the work hes put in to try to do something a bit different though
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Jul 28, 2010 13:01:44 GMT
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didnt expect to see this on here, this is my mate matts project, he was still working on it on the friday just to get it up for the show, obviously at the moment its way off completion but I'm sure heel get it finished, not sure if anyone went bug jam last year but he had a rat karmann ghia which was awesome too, as for those saying its nothing original to be honest I think its going to start being hard to find anything thats original and hasnt been done in the vw scene before long but I know I certainly wouldnt be able to build something like that, good to see a few on here appreciating the work hes put in to try to do something a bit different though To be honest the one person saying it's unoriginal is known for trolling these boards and talking drivel. Ignore him and he'll go away with any luck. A Jetta body on a Beetle chassis is very original - I've never seen that before. There must be loads of work involved in getting a monocoque onto a separate chassis without it flexing all over the place! I can't wait to see it finished!
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rolphy
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Jul 28, 2010 13:45:32 GMT
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hmm well i suppose theres always some that wont be interested was fun trying to get it off the trailor
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Jul 28, 2010 13:48:24 GMT
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Ha - awesome!
Do you have any build pics or anything...? ;D
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Jul 28, 2010 13:54:25 GMT
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it's fookin brilliant , top job for sure !!! love it
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Jul 28, 2010 14:04:08 GMT
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Ha haa! That pic is hilarious ;D how on earth did you get it off?! Actually, scratch that - how on earth did you get it back on again!?! Great work - would love to see more pics & watch it progress is airbag suspension (or similar rideheightadjustability << new word) planned?
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Last Edit: Jul 28, 2010 14:05:13 GMT by HARDCORE
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Jul 28, 2010 15:13:44 GMT
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NOT my thing I have to say.
Been done and not really a hard thing to do. On the plus, at least it is not a Prius, oh Prius on a bug pan...or or on a tax exempt range rover chassis! with a very badly running V8! Now that i would adore!
Back to the face off beetle, I would much rather see someone take a Jetta and to the same slam-narrow-wide5wheel thing to it and show some real handy work.
There is a certain MK1 golf on here that has done something close to the above, and I love that recipe.
And hey who am I for talking, I have a Jetta, I should do what I say and stop judging this poor harassed beetle.
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Jul 28, 2010 15:39:12 GMT
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On the plus, at least it is not a Prius, oh Prius on a bug pan...or or on a tax exempt range rover chassis! with a very badly running V8! Now that I would adore! You mean...... a bit like this high tech Prius 'woody'? ;D
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Jul 28, 2010 15:39:20 GMT
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Been done and not really a hard thing to do. What?! Where before has a Jetta shell been grafted on to a Beetle floorpan? I'm happy to stand corrected if you can back that up.. Also I can't believe for one moment that it's "not a hard thing to do" - by the time that's finished I reckon a hell of a lot of work will have gone into it
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Jul 28, 2010 15:43:12 GMT
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On the plus, at least it is not a Prius, oh Prius on a bug pan...or or on a tax exempt range rover chassis! with a very badly running V8! Now that I would adore! I can't make head nor tail of this. (Not trying to be rude, just genuinely confused.)
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Stu_B
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Jul 28, 2010 15:53:05 GMT
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I think he's saying it would be ironic to run a toyota prius shell on a beetle pan, or even over a range rover chassis with a rumbly old v8 spewing out pollutants.
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Jul 28, 2010 17:02:58 GMT
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arrocuda: I love that (and thereifixedit, top site), good way of making it green-er.
Hardcore: not a jetta/beetle but a golf, a caddy... my point is that there is physical work involved but the brain work is done, beetle pans can run by themselves almost so strapping another shell on it is not a massive feat logistically or mentally. It's just my opinion, like I said at least it's being creative; But I like other things.
dbizzle: it was just me brain storming whilst typing. Stooby has explained for me.
I personally appreciate other things, this is not a bad creation, I hope it looks good when it's done, just not my cup of tea.
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