mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Jaguar MK10 Stolen 1966mk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Horrific.
An awful, undignified way to find your car, let alone a car that actually means something to you.
The way I see it is there needs to be more control over what cars actually enter the paddocks/tracks. Its not just drivers but the organisers and track officials that also need to be aware of cars that have been stolen and could potentially end up at their track. Logbooks and proof of ownership is a start, but the fact of the matter is the criminal element needs drumming out of the sport. You don't find the same problems in Rallycross/TopHat/Grass track events, so why is it accepted in banger racing.
Basically, yeah, if one person 'grasses' on a dirty driver then they can get singled out, but if the whole race meet singles the dirty driver out then theres no recourse for them.
IMHO, ofcourse.
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stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member
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Jaguar MK10 Stolen 1966stealthstylz
@stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member 174
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May 27, 2011 12:41:18 GMT
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I definitley think the sport needs a shakeup. As Dave says if the good people ganged up against the thiefs and pressured them out of the sport they would give banger racing a massive image boost, as at the minute it seems as if people turn a blind eye, which is just as bad as stealing the cars in the first place.
Matt
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May 27, 2011 15:35:43 GMT
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sadly the 1% of idiots who pinch cars,are also the 1% thatl burn your place down if they think someone has grassed on them. A valid point.
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May 27, 2011 18:27:32 GMT
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sell it and let it get raced the heap of curse word i have been reading this on a few forums they have it back now rip mk10 nothing better to do u lot think of ways to disrespect racers get over it
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May 27, 2011 18:30:23 GMT
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Horrific. You don't find the same problems in Rallycross/TopHat/Grass track events, so why is it accepted in banger racing. i think you find it's more common than you think. i was at Brands Hatch years ago when the police raided and impounded loads of race minis. a car specially prepared for circuit racing is probably harder to trace than a banger racer.
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Jaguar MK10 Stolen 1966skinnylew
@skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member 11
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May 27, 2011 20:00:45 GMT
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sell it and let it get raced the heap of curse word I have been reading this on a few forums they have it back now rip mk10 nothing better to do u lot think of ways to disrespect racers get over it Whoops. Looks like someone is a bit annoyed they didn't get the £250 they generously offered it back for. Either that or someone doesn't want the spot light on their 'sport' for 'some' reason I'm thinking the pics don't work on your pc or else you'd understand why the thread has taken this obvious slant. In any motorsport at the lower echelons there are some stolen parts and vehicles. Police did a stop check on every bike over 600cc at the first club race at Brands. 146 bikes checked 16 seized, 3 directly running stolen engines minimum. One would be naive to believe that it isn't in other areas as well, trailers for example, I bet there are a fair few stolen trailers that racers have bought for cheap without knowing it's stolen.
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Last Edit: May 27, 2011 20:07:46 GMT by skinnylew
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sell it and let it get raced the heap of curse word I have been reading this on a few forums they have it back now rip mk10 nothing better to do u lot think of ways to disrespect racers get over it Nice. Just to let you know, your two week ban is not because you are a banger racer...it's because of your lack of respect for other users.
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May 28, 2011 17:03:10 GMT
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sell it and let it get raced i say don't let it go near a banger track ever. having had cars stolen so others can enjoy themselves for a few minutes i can say is not a nice experience. especially as it's not classed as stolen because there is no intention to keep it so it's classed as joyriding. i say sell off the decent bits and cube the thing. thats what i'd do because it will annoy you lot the in same way that it was stolen for banger racing annoys the posters here even though they have no connection with the car. if it was bought fair and square for banger racing then it wouldn't be an issue. but it was stolen for one purpose
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May 29, 2011 14:57:15 GMT
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It is at least some consolation that you got the old girl back, though it does look as though the restoration has been set back somewhat. I hope that should the restoration continue, your community will support the efforts made.
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It must be a very busy 1% with how often you here of stuff like this happening
Glad you got it back and hopefully the car does get saved
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May 31, 2011 11:17:43 GMT
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sell it and let it get raced I say don't let it go near a banger track ever. having had cars stolen so others can enjoy themselves for a few minutes I can say is not a nice experience. especially as it's not classed as stolen because there is no intention to keep it so it's classed as joyriding. I say sell off the decent bits and cube the thing. thats what i'd do because it will annoy you lot the in same way that it was stolen for banger racing annoys the posters here even though they have no connection with the car. if it was bought fair and square for banger racing then it wouldn't be an issue. but it was stolen for one purpose Just out of interest how can you proove that it was stolen for bangers. That must mean you know who stole it, right? After a car has been nicked and is sat in a drivers yard - the hard parts done. Whip the id off, grind any numbers down, strip build primer inside and out and you'd never know. Even without doing half of that you'd never proove it. If a driver has the nerve to nick a car, they aint going to give it back/dump it. Also, I'm not a fan of some of the rediculous posts by some people connected to racing before you class us all as the same.
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May 31, 2011 11:56:12 GMT
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Given the circumstances in which it was stolen and the condition its come back in I don't think there is any question what so ever about the motives behind the theft... Unless some banger racing haters stole it and this is all part of a intricate setup aimed at tarnishing the good name of the sport?
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Last Edit: May 31, 2011 12:01:31 GMT by roccoguy
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Jaguar MK10 Stolen 1966skinnylew
@skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member 11
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May 31, 2011 12:08:28 GMT
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Just out of interest how can you proove that it was stolen for bangers. That must mean you know who stole it, right? After a car has been nicked and is sat in a drivers yard - the hard parts done. Whip the id off, grind any numbers down, strip build primer inside and out and you'd never know. Even without doing half of that you'd never proove it. If a driver has the nerve to nick a car, they aint going to give it back/dump it. Also, I'm not a fan of some of the rediculous posts by some people connected to racing before you class us all as the same. Probably hard to prove it was stolen for bangering HOWEVER the state of it upon its return suggests/indicates/makes us 90% certain that it was. If it was a scrappie it would have been weighed in and gone forever. Obviously some people were asking around and perhaps close to finding it so the thief or the handler of stolen goods had to dump it to avoid being caught.
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May 31, 2011 14:38:54 GMT
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Please don't scrap this/cube it/let it get raced. Its way to good for that.
Ive had cars stolen before, and just a couple of weeks ago someone attempted to steal my brothers XJ6. Its not a nice feeling at all, and anyone who has an ounce of sentimentality for their cars will know what I'm talking about.
Restore it as you were going to do in the first place. Its a miracle you've got it back, don't waste it by giving up now!
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May 31, 2011 17:45:42 GMT
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Everything about this case points to one thing, its already been mentioned countless times so no need to go there again. It may be 1% or 10%, either way this happens far too often, proven or otherwise. I used to go bangers all the time, its in my blood, but when my MK2 Granada got stolen it put a real cloud over the sport for me, dispite me having no proof it was taken for the track, I really couldnt think of any one else who'd want it that bad.
Glad you got the car back, such a shame they felt the need to rub salt in the wounds by striping it and cutting the wings first.
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May 31, 2011 20:41:20 GMT
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Probably hard to prove it was stolen for bangering HOWEVER the state of it upon its return suggests/indicates/makes us 90% certain that it was. . [/quote]
I'm far from saying it was destined for the track - I'm saying you cant say that it was a racer that stole it. The point of people getting close to it is valid but its not a unique car and you could find plenty of hiding places if you were determined to race it after stealing it.
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Ryannn
Posted a lot
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May 31, 2011 21:09:07 GMT
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Probably hard to prove it was stolen for bangering HOWEVER the state of it upon its return suggests/indicates/makes us 90% certain that it was. . I'm far from saying it was destined for the track - I'm saying you cant say that it was a racer that stole it. The point of people getting close to it is valid but its not a unique car and you could find plenty of hiding places if you were determined to race it after stealing it.[/quote] the good theives don't get caught... and they're not all good...
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Jun 22, 2011 16:22:08 GMT
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Oval chat have a point.....
Is that actually the same car? It looks green in the dumped pictures and blue in the first one.
The cut arches are rusty in a short amount of time, and the grille and headlight tops are rusty.
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Last Edit: Jun 22, 2011 16:23:12 GMT by Soopahfly
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Jun 22, 2011 17:15:03 GMT
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Oval chat have a point..... Is that actually the same car? It looks green in the dumped pictures and blue in the first one. The cut arches are rusty in a short amount of time, and the grille and headlight tops are rusty. It was gone for 4 months or so and from what I've read there's no indication that the first picture (Pre theft) was a recent one... Does look green though, no doubt about that.
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Jun 22, 2011 17:18:22 GMT
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the repairs on the wings are identical. the colour difference could be the fact that the cameras were different and there is a lot of reflection from the greenery in the banger photo.
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