kevfromwales
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Feb 14, 2011 22:53:30 GMT
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ok chaps, time for a bit of pondering mate of mine, young james, recently bought a moggy minor pickup truck as his first car - it's also 1.4 datsun b310 powered ;D - not a full on road rocket, but way, WAY cooler than the stone stock k10 micra I had at age 17 currently the truck is lowered (not sure how much), 13" alleycat style rims at one end, cx type wheels at the other, and a wooden flatbed style back on it - it's cool, but it's not SUPER MAD AWESOMEZ cool SO - I had a bit of a think, and I reckon it could quite easily be made into a sort of 'faux gasser' - I mean I know it hasn't got the v8 motor, but I reckon with a few of the right touches it could work Firstly, for wheels and tyres, I reckon a pair of 14" skinny standard moggy steels for the front, either on 145 radials, or if he's brave, I've got some 5.90 blackwall x-plies in the barn then at the back, I was thinking of getting some 14" slotmags, and having them drilled to suit the 4x4" stud pattern (hence my thread of a few days ago ) depending on the ride height, I'd either be dropping the back, or fitting the front with standard front springs to jack it back up - and possibly radiusing the front wheelarches out a bit to make the arch gap look a bit higher other body mods I thought about were removing the front bumper and the chrome toot, maybe taking the grille out - or getting a little aluminium moon-esque tank for the front - for the pickup bed I reckon the best bet is to fabricate something like the willys pickups of the gasser wars used - flat sides, with an angled top, and a pair of small trailer style arches oh and it would be cool as FUNK to build a little stove enammeled white fenderwell header for the datsun motor, with a capped dump just behind the front wheel other stuff could possibly include a push bar styled back bumper, coloured perspex side windows, a stripped out interior - the usual accoutrements so - waddaya reckon? - skinny steels and jacked front going to completely curse word the handling?? - morris minor gasser not going to work? any other useful input, ideas, pics, criticism or anything else welcome! (and hopefully this will go a bit further than the last 'gasser minor' thread which seems to have sunk a bit! - kfw ps - rest of the moggy / willys pickup pics to follow!
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''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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kevfromwales
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Feb 14, 2011 22:59:17 GMT
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not a gasser, but awesome, and found while googling that's better, much more altitude possibly a little bit too much rear rubber for a b310 motor to cope with... maybe he could fit a rotary to help with that... just ace IMO - but again, low, and I think low only works with the stock rear bed
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Seth
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Feb 14, 2011 23:06:08 GMT
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I think that could work If the front end can be raised slightly from stock (wind the torsion bars a spline the other way?) then maybe a pair of Spridget/A35 13" steels would fit to really open up than arch gap? Don't know if they would clear steering arms etc. Sounds like the existing bed could possibly be used as a basis for the Willys style one you mention. Stock Minor exhaust exits through the inner wing so if the Datsun pipe is on the right side then a header out the same hole would be relatively easy ;D
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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MrSpeedy
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Feb 14, 2011 23:06:18 GMT
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Personally i rekon minors make brilliant gassers (looks wise) due too the similar styling of the archetypical 40's Willys coupé. For that reason alone (not that you need one) you HAVE to do it !
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kevfromwales
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Feb 14, 2011 23:13:17 GMT
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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kevfromwales
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Feb 14, 2011 23:27:54 GMT
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Stock Minor exhaust exits through the inner wing so if the Datsun pipe is on the right side then a header out the same hole would be relatively easy ;D oh really? - that's GOT to be a worth a lookit - unfortunately the pickup is sat in manchester while james is down in sunny north wales for a week, so i shall have to send him on a measuring up mission when he goes back torsion bars! - that's what the fron end setup is - for some reason I'd forgotten that!! - figures that tony (the PO) has probably wound them down a bit, so should be OK to wind them back up a smidge and somewhere I have a pair of 13" viva steels, got to be worth a try to see if they clear the steering (and the calipers to think of that) - although the alleycats on it are that size... mrspeedy - like your thinking, if I can convince james it's a go-er, it will be(the fact that the hot rod hayride has drag rcng this year instead of the dirt oval MAY help )
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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stealthstylz
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Feb 14, 2011 23:34:17 GMT
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Gasser would be cool, but for ultra coolness build a rep of Low Blow from when Pop Parts Plus Julian owned it, still the coolest Minor ever imo Though it's racecar guise was also cool Matt
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kevfromwales
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Feb 14, 2011 23:39:49 GMT
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cheers matt!
I remember that moggy pckup from CC's old classifieds, when it was matt blacked - didn't realise it was an ex racecar though
the pickup bed is exactly what I was thinking - and it's also given me an idea - you could cut the front panel in line with the bottom of the front wings - maybe?
- or just take the whole grille panel out?
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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stealthstylz
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Feb 14, 2011 23:46:56 GMT
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A proper gasser would probably have the front panel removed and a moon tank hanging down into where the grille opening was.
Matt
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Seth
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torsion bars! - that's what the fron end setup is - for some reason I'd forgotten that!! I started typing "stiffer springs" etc and then went "D'oh!" Corrected myself before submitting the post obviously so that no one on the internetz would know how stupid I had nearly been. Oh. Matt, the only one of those gasser photos that Kev has posted, where you can see a moon tank in the grille is a modern build.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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started typing "stiffer springs" etc and then went "D'oh!" Corrected myself before submitting the post obviously so that no one on the internetz would know how stupid I had nearly been. Oh. Matt, the only one of those gasser photos that Kev has posted, where you can see a moon tank in the grille is a modern build. You can get uprated torsion bars from the Birmingham Morris Minor Centre.
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1953 Minor (Long term project) PT Cruiser
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stealthstylz
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Feb 15, 2011 11:53:58 GMT
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Yeah I know. I was having a think last night and it would be quite cool to mount an old 50s/60s bike fuel tank in a similar place, as I can imagine that happening over here where Moon tanks weren't readily available.
Matt
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kevfromwales
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Feb 15, 2011 12:11:10 GMT
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oh I do like that ^^ idea! - now where did I leave that 60's raleigh wisp moped fuel tank...
uprated torsion bars have got to be worth a look too
It wasn't just you who had brain-freeze last night seff, I forgot the most important aspect of gasser style - a massive signwritted name on both doors!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Feb 15, 2011 12:11:18 GMT
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I think it's awesome idea and one that would translate very well to a Moggy pick-up. Personally I'm quite liking the idea of a redneck wooden slatted pick-up bed like the one in this pic: with similar sized rear wheels/tyres. Lifted front, front mount spun tank, radiused arches etc....all are essential and must be done. skinny steels and jacked front going to completely jolly pain in the backside the handling?? Not at all....winding up torsion bars puts more load on them and makes them firmer, so bringing the front up shouldn't actually make any negative impact on the way the car drives. It'll nosedive less under braking, roll less in corners and feel more taught/responsive. Win win! Looking forward to seeing how this progresses....
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Dom
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Feb 15, 2011 16:04:14 GMT
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Moggy gassers are great. I'd say definitely go for a wooden back. Maybe a barrel type of thing like this Or with the bottom bit round as well. I'd go for something other than slots though. You could do much better to stand out from the crowd a bit. I love alleycats but I agree they wouldn't suit the look. Stock front wheels sounds good though. Wires would look cool too. Or these Maybe american racing style for the back Vector? turbine
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Feb 15, 2011 16:09:04 GMT
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Got any pics of said moggy?
My dad had one BITD that had a wooden bed on it... Wondered where its got to....
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v8ian
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Feb 15, 2011 17:20:01 GMT
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I cant find any pics, I know Phil Richies "Purple People Eater" is no longer, my friend had it in his lockup for years, as a cab and bed, the chassis was possibly used for another morris, it was later sold to somebody else, who, in a fit of "No Garage space" scrapped it,
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style. Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 15, 2011 17:36:59 GMT
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Quick scan of a pic thats been on the wall of the garage for years.. My dads old one... Stakebed, Stack truck pipe.. ;D Had the usual wheel falling off incident like most moggys lol
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kevfromwales
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Feb 16, 2011 10:13:33 GMT
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cheers for the replies guys! Dom - some interesting points there I personally am not a fan of wooden backs on pickups, especially not the rounded 'barrel back' style - but then again, it's not my pickup truck with the wheels, I know slots are used a lot, but they are kind of the right period wheel to use - wires, turbovecs and turbines are all cool - but not the 'right' wheel for a gasser look car IMO - about the only cooler wheel to use would be cragars, and they are too spendy and too 5 stud for this car - the 10 spokes you suggest are also cool, but I always prefer the 'proper' 12 spoke spindle mounts - again much $$$ for those!! That studebaker pickup you posted is hard as nails - one of my all time favourite pickups that is - especially 'cannonball's' from the 'hot rod' film - mismatched primer street racer pickups FTW retrowagen - it's not your dad's old truck sadly, it's a J reg - I've snagged some pics out of james' facebook account, so I'll stick em up now - what motor was your dad's old one running? heres the pics bed's a fair bit bigger than I had remembered, and the arch gap looks a bit big at the front, so maybe it hasn't been lowered so much oh and seff, checked google images - the exhaust does exit on the standard side, so it looks liek a header pipe might well be possible!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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kevfromwales
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Feb 16, 2011 10:15:08 GMT
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argghh! - p/bucket - when will I learn!?!?! ^^ try that, which should be a little austin gasser pickup, while I try and reload the moggy pics also, anybody know how far the chassis rails stick out past the rear axle on a moggy pickup? - quite liking this 'short bed' look a lot of these have going on
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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