Simca rallye II

[65mustang]

Next to the mustang we have several other classics including a simca rallye II

My father used to own one when he was young so he wanted one. For its time it was a fast car but now its not that fast with +- 80 bhp.

Car needed a full restoration, there are litle of these left and bought this in austria.



In here we tried some other wheels (but these aint going to be left under it)













Originaly it had a 1297ccm engine with twin 36 dellorto's

but the previous owner decided to stick a single carb from a 1000ccm engine on it for beter mpg ?! (had the original with the car)

so strip it all down.













Car isnt in a very bad shape, just new sills, Floor front left and right, new centre floor, new C style left and rear, four new doors, new hood and decklid, and four new wings.

The roof is fine ;D

Been collecting parts for years so we have almost everything NOS (including doors, lights etc...)









Engine out and chassis becoming really empty, its going to be fully stitch welded and strenghting for the engine and frame rails.

For just 80 bhp ?

Why stick with a cam in block engine when you have a twin cam head lying arround



Bores are prefect, holes needed redrilling and head needed to be widened (head isnt skimmed yet here)



Some of the work that needed doing



Original



Bigger



And all four done.

Why buy timing gear when you can make it yourself







Test fit items on the mule before using it on the engine i'm building, original it had the camshaft in the block wich also drives the oilpump and was chain driven. Completly removed the ignition housing and chain cover. Changed the original camshaft on the lathe so that a VW timing gear fitted on it. The camshaft don't have any function now other then driving the oilpump.

Also made a cover behind the beltdrive



Put the head on and the manifold with twin webers, and a little bit of extra fun. A supercharger from a (nissan micra if i'm right).





Made the altenator behind the waterpomp and put a 205 GTI ignition on it.






And thats were we are now at the moment. The car is going to be orange with 8x13 2 piece smoor wheels under it.

Hope to get it painted this year !

[micrat]

amazing progress! should be a fast old girl!

[65mustang]

yeah hoping to reach 200bhp on the wheels and 10K rpm

[Seth]

Wow! Some great engineering going on in there

[retrolegends]

Looks a cracker mate,looking forward to see how it progresses.

Have this on me!

[ditchdigger]

What a car!

I love it! The VW head swap is brilliant.

[ettorebugatti]

+1

Common mod in the Simca scene?

[65mustang]

Not really, one who did a 8V head swap and there is another from way back with a 16V head with kugelfischer injection.

The cars are still used in hill climbs (try youtube) there not many real rally's left most are converted 1000's. Great little cars for racing.

retrolegends: yours ? beautiful car ! Really like it, same color as ours ! We were in doubt a long time to spray it in the same color but my dad had a orange rallye so decided to go orange again. But really liking the green !

[Corbs]

This is amazing! It's like Frankenstein's Engine!

[funkyhunk]

Is this based on the early Renault 8?

[ditchdigger]

Aug 8, 2011 0:07:34 GMT funkyhunk said:

Is this based on the early Renault 8?

Nope the Simca 1000 was its own car. Released 8 months before the Renault 8.

[hudson]

I joined this forum just to follow this thread. Looks great!

You don't see these at all in Canada, a handfull in the states.

[stuey]

You sir are a man of taste- simca rallye II and a french bulldog- 2 things on my want list of life- dog aside this is going to be an awesome car when its done- I will watch this one closely!

[marshholtracing]

Awesome work on the head swap! Need to see this run! As was said before, not too many in the north americas. Makes me want to give up on my turbo itb setup

[bowler]

Awesome build!

How hard is it to put the 16V head on the simca lump? No prob's with the cooling canals ed.?

Grts. from another dutchman

[65mustang]

Aug 8, 2011 6:53:18 GMT marshholtracing said:

Awesome work on the head swap! Need to see this run! As was said before, not too many in the north americas. Makes me want to give up on my turbo itb setup

Wow what a stance ! Really loving it, how did you get it that low ? remove some of the leave springs at the front ? Do you have a thread on the car ? Really intrested in the itb turbo setup.

Are you going to run the radiateur in the back or are you converting to front like the rallye II and III ? going to give you more space (also maybe petrol tank at the front instead of the rear ?).

[65mustang]

Corbs: Haha need to remember that, frankengine

hudson: Is it also called simca in the states ? Because of its chrysler roots (always wondered if they are "chryslers" over there.

stuey: Thank you very much ! And the dog is called "Sjaak" they are the best dogs to get you laughing, litle clowns !

bowler: Let me say, only the bores are the same ! and 6 of the head bolts, you have to weld 4 up and redrill them. Coolant canals need to be welded and replaced, oil is also externaly now because simca has a litle hole for it and the vw head has it past a headbolt. Also the head is to narrow on one side so it leave a gap at the pushrod side. So its widened so that it overlaps.

I have 2 heads everything is made twice so whenever something goes i always have a spare part. Also have jigs and moulds to replicate parts and to make more heads.

[Speedle]

awesome little car! Can't believe you managed to source a Supercharger from a March (J Name for Micra) they are rare as poor quality wobbly children's play pony poo! Found on the Nissan March Super Turbo, engine code MA09ERT

[marshholtracing]

65Mustang, I pulled 2 leaves and made 3'' lowering blocks in the front. Really just for mock up. the upper a-arms are at way too extreme an angle. If you did it this way, I would recommend relocating the a-arm mounts 3 inches higher. Another problem I've run into is the inner fenders, although none of in looks structural. I removed the whole front end and will build a tube frame to mount the battery, radiator, gas tank, and bumper.



I would like to build one of these crossmembers/aarms though. It could get it much lower and handle better!



They are called Simca's over here, however no one has really heard of them. I know of only a handful of Simca 1000's in the states.

I will start a build thread soon, but anyway I dig your car!

[avg]

Very nice and rare, I used to race one in Autograss racing around Cambridge area back in 1970ish beware of going low as the early cars can pull their drive shafts out of the diff. bacause of the silly way they work. Mine used to have its front transverse spring slip through its clamps on the rough surafce and all left turns so the offside wheel had positive camber and the nearside negative camber! Paul