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Big square barge, win. Turbo RWD, win, hippo bag to lie on, win, side exit exhaust win. All in all win win. Love it.
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Big square barge, win. Turbo RWD, win, hippo bag to lie on, win, side exit exhaust win. All in all win win. Love it. haha cheers man, watch this space  |
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I'm afraid i'm missing something here, are we saying that with an ECB on a 9 series Volvo and a bit of tweaking you can do a type r, why has no one told me this before.,
What power are they producing standard?
Obviously your new turbo is going to give you a fair bit more power, what are you hoping for?
Is there a need for intercooling?
Are the 7 series as tunable?.
I thought the Volvo turbos were all low pressure hobbies.
Sorry for all the questions but I'm feeling the love for these old barges, and if I can get a type r beater in the bargain I'm going to look into getting one,
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I can personally vouch for how quick Bjorn is now!
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I'm afraid i'm missing something here, are we saying that with an ECB on a 9 series Volvo and a bit of tweaking you can do a type r, why has no one told me this before., What power are they producing standard? Obviously your new turbo is going to give you a fair bit more power, what are you hoping for? Is there a need for intercooling? Are the 7 series as tunable?. I thought the Volvo turbos were all low pressure hobbies. Sorry for all the questions but I'm feeling the love for these old barges, and if I can get a type r beater in the bargain I'm going to look into getting one, Ha Ha, Yeah it is what my love for Volvo's has been built on  . It was a new Type-R, I hear they are not as quick as the old ones. I'm not going to sit here and say I smoked it but my car pulled away from it comfortably with no chance of the yuppy catching me. The 700 series turbo is just as tunable but harder to find, 940's are more common. To make sure mine didn't go pop I gave it a new cylinder head gasket, water pump, timing belt, tensioner, currently working through the ignition system sensors etc. Basically if the car ain't tip top it won't last, standard they usually produce around 150bhp (depends on model etc). My current performance is based on my already fitted bigger turbo, along with other bits and pieces. I'm playing catchup on my thread by a bit, the original 13c turbo was not so bad but I could only boost to 10psi without chips, nippy but not fast , the car already has an intercooler but a bigger one will also bring gains. The final pics I will be uploading will be the maintenance I just mentioned, the installation of the 16T, chips, gold chippable ICU. The result is quite a brute, with quite aggressive tendencies  With the EBC setup properly you can expect 250bhp+ @ the engine and between 5.5 - 6 seconds 0-60 and that is with the basic cam. Don't be mistaken though, there is still a lot of things to get right with your mods to make it reliable and fast, it is 20 years old after all . PM me if you would like any particular bits of info, I have a fair bit of experience rebuilding turbo's too, used to work for Cummins Turbo Technologies. |
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I can vouch for this too, I've added a boost gauge and MBC to my 940 (1997 LPT version) I have upped the boost from 4psi to around 12, taking the hp from 135 standard to an estimated 190 (could be a bit more, but this is the insured number  Bearing in mind the car 'only' weighs 1400kg, surprisingly little for what everyone thinks is a heavy beast. To put it in perspective, my 2001 Audi S3 was quoted at 210hp and 1450kg... I paid £800 for mine, has the engine everyone wants with oil squirters, strongest gearbox etc, I've done a house move with it, gone on holiday 4-up with comfort and at speed - it's ace! Cheese - did you go straight from 13c to 16t, or do you have a 15g kicking around?? |
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ive got a complete cartridge for a 15g and a complete unit 15g that wants rebuilding (10mm at least axial play, 3mm radial)
i used all the standard gear except the turbo and ecu and all the mods i mentioned. probably wasnt the best decision but it was certainly the most cost effective.
i shall get pics of the bits for you at the weekend matey
oh and mine had a roll on from 70 to 130 with this civic. it was the one before this new snail shape one with the gear stick in the dash. caught him but he wouldnt let me past. ive got a 230ft block with squirters waiting for me to rebuild it to huge hp spec. I'm looking ideally for a penta block but these are expensive for what they are
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Cheese - did you go straight from 13c to 16t, or do you have a 15g kicking around?? Yeah, I went straight to the 16T |
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ive got a complete cartridge for a 15g and a complete unit 15g that wants rebuilding (10mm at least axial play, 3mm radial) haha are there any bearings left in this turbo or has the shaft just disintegrated ;D I shall get pics of the bits for you at the weekend matey I used all the standard gear except the turbo and ecu and all the mods I mentioned. probably wasnt the best decision but it was certainly the most cost effective. Great stuff, money always tends to be the stumbling block for most builds sadly, I would certainly recommend chips to sort the ICU and ECU fueling. The difference it has made to the adaptability of all the mods is pretty special! |
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i am hoping to investigate the (lack of) thrust bearing sometime soon haha
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Right chaps, before fitting the 16T turbocharger I decided to do some bullet proofing as mentioned before. Full head gasket kit, front crank seal (fit if needed), cambelt kit, water pump. As the turbine housing on my turbo is flat not conical like my downpipe I decided to weld a flange I made to the downpipe. Anyway here it all is - The bits...  The work area...  The engine...  Water dropped  Intercooler pipes off and rad out  That gone I got to work on removing the turbo after removing the AC pump    Manifold removed...  Head removal...   Head clean, cylinder de-coke, used razor blade, carb cleaner and WD40      Head torque up   At the end of a long day I had managed to get up to this point, the evening pics were not the best. Made some good progress though.   Checked the crank seal, with no leaks I left it. Got the water pump on, re-torqued the crank pulley, and fitted the cambelt kit     Know I fitted my 16T turbin housing to the manifold and marked off my new turbo flange that I made.   Here it is after I had just welded it to my down pipe, off the car of course.    Boom, fit first time, thank god!  Now for the rest of it      Other than the attitude of the turbo needing slight correction its all back together ;D Runs sweet as a nut too, a great relief!!! Will Post my chip install tomorrow if I have time |
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i thought the hot sides were interchangeable. you could have kept your conical hot side from the other turbo couldnt you?
oh make god damn sure the turbo return block seal is right and not torn or nicked or anything other than perfect! i lost a lot of oil through there and was amazed at how much a farty little seal cost
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I thought the hot sides were interchangeable. you could have kept your conical hot side from the other turbo couldnt you? oh make god damn sure the turbo return block seal is right and not torn or nicked or anything other than perfect! I lost a lot of oil through there and was amazed at how much a farty little seal cost Depends on the turbo you acquire there are 2 types, I wanted the larger 2.5" turbine housing for less flow restriction the conical is 2". My system is 2.5" all the way from the turbine wheel. I replaced my oil drain seal, it's more likely to get a leak if the rigid pipe is not sitting far enough into your block, if the bearing housing on the turbocharger is not aligned properly when you fit the rigid oil drain pipe it leaks. That is why I fitted my turbocharger in two stages, turbine housing first, bearing housing with compressor housing attached second . |
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I will have to get a vid up to show the current performance, currently deciding next mod either intercooler upgrade or the camshaft??  |
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Brilliant thread, really enjoying it. |
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I will have to get a vid up to show the current performance, currently deciding next mod either intercooler upgrade or the camshaft?? One vid of current performance coming up squire! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSG0CpXDuXE&sns=em [/youtube] |
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Thanks Dave |
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its a shame i didnt know about this sooner because i had a 531 and a vx3 cam for sale.
ill get some pics of the bits and pieces for you mate. ill show you the boot infill panel and the dash just incase you are feeling as mental as i did.
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. It was a new Type-R, I hear they are not as quick as the old ones. I'm not going to sit here and say I smoked it but my car pulled away from it comfortably with no chance of the yuppy catching me. 
