eurogranada
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Thanks for explaining.
I'll ask specifically about this at the next alignment. It was done by a reputable shop known for their understanding of and having figures for oldtimers that others can't cater to.
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I think the confusion may be that with the factory set up the castor is not supposed to be adjustable this can though be achieved with modified bushes washers and in the extreme shortened tie bars.
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gess
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On the Granada, the Castor is adjustable, you can see the castor rods pointing forward from the lower suspension arm on the pictures Eurrogranada shown on the last page. On the early types of Granad there were som oddly shaped bushes there, but they were changed to simple donuts in a sort of beige foam material on the Mk2. These bushes would wear out fairly quickly. I believe Eurogranada fitted poly bushes on his car.
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Aug 18, 2020 13:51:30 GMT
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So the castor rods have a nut on the back as well as the front then?
I was thinking it would be like the escort anti roll bars with the nut clamping against a fixed collar, would have made life so much easier if they had done the same on the escort!
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eurogranada
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Aug 18, 2020 14:34:50 GMT
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Yes, inner nut and outer nut (and plate).   |
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gess
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Aug 18, 2020 15:40:48 GMT
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I see that you have a different type of caster bush than I have on my car. The first models had oval holes in the subframe and later on the hole was round. Your bush is much thicker than on my car, and ledd of the rod will show. In addition it might be that your rods are shorter, I believe that the threaded part is longer on Mk2 Granadas at least.
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eurogranada
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I see that you have a different type of caster bush than I have on my car. The first models had oval holes in the subframe and later on the hole was round. Your bush is much thicker than on my car, and ledd of the rod will show. In addition it might be that your rods are shorter, I believe that the threaded part is longer on Mk2 Granadas at least. As far as I know the rods are the same for MkI and MkII, but having spent most of my energy on MkI's I could be wrong. I didn't know about the difference in holes though. My car is a from september 72 so I would think that is considered an early one and the subframe has the round holes. The original bushes though, have oval metal plates in them to hold them to the car. But I've not yet come across oval holes in the subframe.  My bushes are much thicker, yes, because they are PU bushes. And they also do not have the metal bits to hold them in place on the subframe. They are actually so wide they overlap those original mounting holes partly. The original rubber ones are thinner and also compress more on doing up. Also the pics shown above are from before setting the alignment so that may distort the look even more as well.  |
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gess
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Aug 19, 2020 16:06:29 GMT
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Thought I would share a couple of videos from Norway, Garanada coupe found in the woods and put on the road.
It's not everyones cup of tea but I find it entertainging.
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Last Edit: Aug 19, 2020 16:06:58 GMT by gess
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eurogranada
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As luck would have it, a friend in need "forced" me to take the Granada on another reasonably long trip.
How could I refuse to help the friend who initially homed my Granada project, in "Zeeland". Which is also immediately part of the reason progress was so slow that after two years I was kindly asked to vacate... At 107Km one way over (back then) trafic filled motorways meant that getting there early morning would take about 90 minutes and getting home after a days work could take up to 2,5 hours... That takes away serious working time so it wasn't viable any longer...
My friend needed me to help him finish a clutch swap and to set up his rebuilt 2.9 12v Scorpio engine as his back was giving him trouble. He needed the car running end of sunday morning.
So I volunteered my help and early sunday morning I fired up the car. It had been a little debate in my mind which car to take. The weather forecast showed some rain which usually means I let the Granada sit and take the daily. But in this case as a little more was at play...
You see, my friend works from his parents place of business (a large motorcycle workshop with their home on the side) so way back in 2010 I got to know his parents as well and they welcomed me like I was their own. They supported me in my efforts until it was just taking too long. As I left there in 2012, it was about 8 years since I was last there.... So the other element at play was that it would be seriously nice to see them as well as show them that my project DID in fact get done, even though it would take 4,5 more years and 3 more years of working out the kinks (around moving house and other life events).
From the opening sentence it is obvious that I put weather concerns aside (it IS a car after all) and took the Granada. Again there was some reservation about the trip. It would only be the second longer run since making the last fixes, but again after driving the car for a while all was going well and the feelings subsided. I made it there no problem.
It was good catching up with my friend (we had kept in touch quite regularly) and his parents. It was also fun helping out with the new engine and setting that up to perform nicely. Setting the timing was a bit of a chore, apparently as the ecu wants to tweek all that you are setting mechanically...while you are still setting it. But we got the car running nicely with smooth power delivery etc. Job done!
The return trip home was uneventful. The only thing I need to check out is why my car heats up the interior so badly. The vents in cold air setting puke warm air... My guess is hot air from the engine bay is expelled out the back under the bonnet directly into the air intake in front of the screen. There's a rubber there that I havent yet fitted, so maybe that will help. Otherwise I need to look into the flaps and their control cables....
So that is it, another succesful substantial yourney with the Granada. I think it has earned my trust now...
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great to see it's going well, in my experience the air controlled heaters are never brilliant for keeping the cabin cool, even if the flaps do work the whole case gets so hot it still heats up the incoming air, this is why virtually every manufacturer uses a coolant control valve now. Given what a major job getting the heater out is I would be inclined to go the same route, you will want to maintain the flow of coolant so go for a bypass valve, a cable operated one for a London taxi costs around £15 or a fiesta/ ka / puma electric pone can be used and pattern parts are a similar price, they are supposed to be low frequency PWN controlled but off is 0V and 100% duty cycle is a steady 12V so it's fairly easy to use as an on off with your existing flaps as a means of temperature control.
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Last Edit: Aug 25, 2020 9:50:39 GMT by kevins
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eurogranada
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Aug 25, 2020 12:05:56 GMT
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great to see it's going well, in my experience the air controlled heaters are never brilliant for keeping the cabin cool, even if the flaps do work the whole case gets so hot it still heats up the incoming air, this is why virtually every manufacturer uses a coolant control valve now. Given what a major job getting the heater out is I would be inclined to go the same route, you will want to maintain the flow of coolant so go for a bypass valve, a cable operated one for a London taxi costs around £15 or a fiesta/ ka / puma electric pone can be used and pattern parts are a similar price, they are supposed to be low frequency PWN controlled but off is 0V and 100% duty cycle is a steady 12V so it's fairly easy to use as an on off with your existing flaps as a means of temperature control. That sounds like a nice solution if the other avenues don't pan out. Just cut the heat to the box altogether... I'm inclined to go electric. I could add a microswitch to the original heater lever activating the valve or possibly think of a solution that the valve opens further as the lever is moved further. Although the latter could also speak to using a cable operated valve... Food for thought. Cause really, it's no fun inside and it was only 22 degrees or so outside... It's a recipe for headache. And doing 105km/h with a window opened a bit just makes too much noise. |
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eurogranada
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Aug 26, 2020 13:20:13 GMT
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I forgot to mention something of interest and a bit of a learning curve for me...
My friend is kind enough to donate a near full LPG injection system sitable for my aluminium headed Cosworth BOB engine. The only parts I need to pay for myself are a ringtank (as I want it under the car where the fuel tank is now to preserve usability in the boot), a filler system (hose and connector) and the LPG fuel line. So that sounds pretty interesting. Even though those materials will add up to 500 euro's, it will still be a good bit cheaper then having to buy the ecu, injectors, looms etc.
The biggest hurdle is getting it certified. A home built LPG system can be certified by our RDW (your VOSA I presume), but the story here is that they hardly ever deem an installation correctly installed. And there's a cost of 120 euro's associated with that check as well. So the alternative would be to do the home build, but find a certified installer to look over the installation and handle the paperwork for me as if he was the builder. That would be the easiest, but of course, finding someone that is willing to do that may prove difficult.
Meanwhile I'll go and checke when the set will be available and start working out the fitment... I do like this as a project. It requires all of my skills so is good! The drawback is that as the intake needs drilling for injectors it is a small leap to wanting to put in either a fresh BOB or take the current one out and regasket that. So I will have to keep the while you are at it stuff under control, as there really are no funds to do the fresh BOB right now...
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Aug 27, 2020 21:21:54 GMT
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Now that sounds like a really interesting modification
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You need to get them checked over here as well but the couple I have had done have been fine and the inspector reasonable. still cost over £100 each for about a 30 minute test though.
Might be an idea to work with an installer and install the major components yourself then lat them do the pipework and commissioning.
I am taking the ring tank out of my TR7 soon you could have, it's inside the boot so looks new but is 15 years old so you probably will not be able to use it.(also with the travel restrictions I have no idea when I will next be over in north Belgium)
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Aug 28, 2020 10:27:28 GMT
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In Holland i believe the LPG tank should not be older then 10 years when newly fitted to a car and going for an inspection. After that it can be older
I do believe there are not that many rules to fitting a LPG system. I used a compagny in Son and fitted the major components ( mtank, evaporator and filler system) myself, I cannot remember the name at the moment but i believe they also had the regulations listed on their website
Peter
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eurogranada
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Aug 29, 2020 16:13:38 GMT
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In Holland i believe the LPG tank should not be older then 10 years when newly fitted to a car and going for an inspection. After that it can be older I do believe there are not that many rules to fitting a LPG system. I used a compagny in Son and fitted the major components ( mtank, evaporator and filler system) myself, I cannot remember the name at the moment but i believe they also had the regulations listed on their website Peter Was it Frans Mandigers? Lpg tanks and systems nowadays need an e67 or 67e code or something. 10 years ago that was not a requirement so old stuff cannot be used and added to the car legally. The system I'm getting is 2 years old but has not been used much as the car had issues. I don't think fitting the system is hard. The electronics are hardest. As each injector needs to be interrupted and the lpg ECU added in between... not to mention the other sensors... but I'm confident I can get it done. I hope to make a deal with an lpg installer as you mentioned too. |
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Aug 29, 2020 18:15:51 GMT
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eurogranada
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Sept 21, 2020 7:58:02 GMT
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I uhhh, made some new content for you all to enjoy (or not)... This was a quick walk around. Ok, the interior is a little dirty form being used a lot lately, but the exterior was washed yesterday... I washed both this and the daily Transit van just before dark yesterday... ![]()  ![]()  Have a shot of me and the misses enjoying a spirited drive over to and back from my parents.   Thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed! |
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mk2cossie
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Sept 21, 2020 16:26:48 GMT
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Not much envy here at all at that lovely coupe  Suprised with how quiet it sounds at idle actually, much quieter than mine anyway  I think the only thing I'd change if it were mine, is the wheels. But what type I'd swap them for is another dilemma  |
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Sept 22, 2020 10:33:08 GMT
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I enjoyed that video: "Leaks like a sieve, pulls like a champ"  The car looks fantastic and bonus points for finally opening the roof and enjoying that 'wind through your, erm 'hair' motoring'. I'm totally in agreement with mk2cossie; It certainly needs one thing to be changed quite swiftly - Log-Book into my name would certainly help me sleep easier at night! |
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