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Nov 19, 2013 22:49:43 GMT
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Glad to hear its all going smoothly!
Love the black rear panel idea. Very simple but makes it look very mean.
You're lucky to have a girlfriend who offers to help, mine hates cars and all the fun stuff we do with them, its amazing we're still together after 3 and a half years!
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DMS
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Nov 20, 2013 12:14:59 GMT
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You know she doesn't really like the car right. She's only saying that because she wants to spend time with you and has realized the car won't be sold. So she's helping you to spend some time with you and is hopeing you'll realize she's so much fun to be around with that you don't start a new project after this. Sorry if I just popped your bubble.
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Nov 20, 2013 16:27:02 GMT
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I think if I asked the wife to help me out with the honda I'd be served a divorce sealed in an envelope of spit.
Closer and closer to mot Steve!!......then more speeds
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Clement
Europe
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Nov 20, 2013 18:15:26 GMT
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My gf likes to drive my car and keeps pushing each gear just for the sake of it! She also says roadtrips are pointless if not in a classic car... I'm pretty sure I'll gradually get her into this world, she likes Dauphines and Fiat 600s!
Just look at yoeddynz, if I'm not mistaken the guy basically built a housetruck with his partner. It sounds somewhat sexist to think no woman could ever like cars, tbh.
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Nov 20, 2013 22:09:39 GMT
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My missus, who's a Filipina, still looks at me askance when she wonders why I didn't buy a new car here and went for a 17 year old Range Rover that needs loads of work instead. She just cannot understand it, but she does love the leccy seats! However, my 12 year old step-daughter is on the spanners every chance she gets and loves it, whereas the youngest at 10, is all i-pad. So, one out of three likes motors. Is this statistically valid? Does it further our knowledge? Probably not!
Anyway, back to the Lancia. I'm in the rolling restoration camp, get it running, MOT, drive and then paint. It's going to be excellent to see this back on the road after all this seriously impressive work.
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goldnrust
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Nov 21, 2013 23:08:25 GMT
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Well that was a talking point wasn't it! My girlfriend is never gonna be a car nut, I'm lucky she lets me indulge my passion and I think she was just trying to be supportive etc I was more making the comment about the fact that even my girlfriend who seemed to dislike the car, is looking forward to it getting back on the road! Anyway, resuming normal service, I spent some time this evening in the garage continuing the Mot prep. First up, underseal. All the new areas have been sprayed up. In the process I somehow managed to underseal my face… luckily I was wearing eye protection and a decent mask so no harm done! I also got the exhaust fitted up properly. It's now adjusted on it's hangers properly and all the joints should be nicely sealed up. The horn was next. Wired it up exactly as I'd planned out a couple of nights ago, and…. nothing. After much head scratching I found both the horns had bad earths, so that was sorted and I now have a once twin tone old fashioned italian sounding horn. It was only ever single tone before, so to get both working was a nice bonus. There are so many small jobs, I'm wondering if my hopes of maybe getting to drive it over the weekend were a bit premature! For example I hadn't considered the time that would be needed to realign the bonnet, boot lid and doors. The panel gaps are so tight on this car, the panels have to be in the perfect place to not catch or rub on each other. I got the bonnet done tonight. Next up, fitting a new washer pump, that should have been easy. But to access it I really ended the bonnet off. Forget that after I've just spent what seemed like forever (probably only 15 mins!) aligning it! This made access a bit tough, but aside from that it was straight forward. And with that I figured I might as well put the wipers on and test the whole system. With some adjustment of the washer nozzles, it's all looking good. It was then I realised I'm a complete idiot. There were two wires in that bundle I pulled out of the engine bay the other day that were a little different to the others. At the time I thought nothing of it, I didn't know where they'd go, nothing obvious was disconnected, so they must be spare. Turns out, they were the wiring to the reverse light switch. Damn. Best re-make that tomorrow then, that's gonna be fun getting to where I trimmed the wires back to under the dash now all the trim is back in I'm not working tomorrow,so will be spending all day in the garage, in the hope that I might be able to find somewhere to get an MOT Saturday and then go for a drive!
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crahel
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Earths are 99% of the time the culprit for electrical problems and the other 1% is normally also an earth fault, however cutting the wiring loom to pieces does cause the some fustrations tring to fix a fault, I know been there done it too. :') Great work. You'll be there soon.
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goldnrust
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Nov 22, 2013 20:28:08 GMT
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Haha, yeah earthing problems are a pain! I've found another earthing problem since last night too… As mentioned in my previous post, I wasn't working today, so hit the garage early and with vigour in the vain hope that I might be able to sort an MOT today or tomorrow. My plans were thwarted though as both my local friendly MOT places are booked up solid till Monday, so I'm booked in for Monday morning MOT, and the insurance is all sorted too. Just gotta get the car ready! Anyway, todays garage activities have gone relatively smoothly, though apparently without little photo record, sorry! First up was to fix this reverse light wiring that I had cut off by accident, that was simple enough but then I was having problem with the right rear light cluster kinda having a mind of it's own, with some lights going out as others come on etc. Luckily today I was primed from yesterday, and went straight to the earth. The light clusters earth through their mounting bolts, which in this case were bottling through freshly painted metal, so that was easily fixed with a bit of sandpaper The rear light lenses went on after that, they needed a few running repairs due to over zealous screw tightening. Then Lancia badges, which I can now see are wonky :/, numberplate and finally the chrome trim. The old metal clips that held the trim on were well past it, and as pointed out earlier in this thread, metal on metal clips seem like a likely point of rust beginning. So I've tiger sealed on the trim pieces for now, with just a few small dabs. Hopefully enough to hold them on solid, but not so much that they are impossible to remove! All in all that leaves the rear of the car looking kinda like this: I'm not 100% sold on the black yet, but I think I like it Masking tape is keeping the trim on till the tiger seal dries. With the back end looking fairly complete the last task here was to fit the boot latch and locking mechanism. It was fiddley to fit but at least it was sensible sized bolts to work with. Some of the badges etc were attached with m2.5 bolts with little 5mm nuts :s It's a wonder the threads have rusted off them! Next up, I drilled some drain holes in the sills, so I don't have to worry about them filling with water. I wasn't sure where the best location was, as it wasn't clear where the water would run to inside the sills or if it would get trapped between the layers, so each sill has got two holes at the front and one at the back, should have most options covered. Bit of a whistle stop tour today, but I guess thats always the way with MOT prep. I needed to get the doors open properly, so I pulled her out on the garage and on to the drive, I drove her out which felt good, even if it was only a 10ft drive, haha with the doors opened wide I could get at some of the trim, kick plates for the doors etc so that all went back on. I then set about aligning the drivers door, the passengers door hadn't been moved and still seemed to line up fine. Again the Lancia tight panel gaps made this tricky, especially doing it on my own, so it took a while but I think I've got it right now So yeah, she's pretty set for the Mot now. Can't think of anything it'll fail on right now. I'll give it another once over tomorrow see if I can find any other problems!
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duncanmartin
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Nov 22, 2013 21:31:37 GMT
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Cool. Good luck with the MOT.
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Nov 22, 2013 21:41:01 GMT
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Good to see steady progress on this. Loving the car the more I see it. Out of curiosity I had a quick search to see if the convicts had brought any over here with them... $18,000! But only one! I hadn't really grasped how little they were until I saw the man standing next to it haha. Please don't put a stripe down the centre though. www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Lancia-Fulvia-1968/SSE-AD-2174743/?Cr=9&sdmvc=1
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great work done and a lovely car had three of them
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adam73bgt
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Good luck for the MOT! and I love the black rear panel, looks good
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Black looks good!
I had a similar experience the other day, I removed the wiring on the ammeter back to the engine bay. Went to start the engine and had no igniton!
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Nov 23, 2013 11:59:33 GMT
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lovely ! good luck p.s i keep forgetting to say, i was a little bit lax in cleaning the grinding dust off my white merit, it got damp, and dried, and wet again, and dried, when i finally got to wash it off outside it had stained the paint and looked like a snow leopard...
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Nov 23, 2013 17:18:47 GMT
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Good to see you finished this part of the project (fingers crossed it will pas the MOT with flying colours)
I like the idea of a different coloured rear panel, but it doesn't look right on the photo to me. Maybe it just needs a proper clean and polish, but otherwise I might be inclined to suggest a lighter colour instead of black. Something like a dark grey (like: Audi lava grey).Or try to colour match the colour on the name badges. Or maybe a metallic with a matte/satin finish
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Nov 23, 2013 17:29:13 GMT
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And a quick illustration of my thinking
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goldnrust
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Nov 23, 2013 18:55:00 GMT
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Cheers guys, I've done all I can for the Mot hopefully it'll go smoothly. Darren, I made that mistake when welding my rx7 and it ended up a gold and rust coloured combo, hense the user name! I did keep an eye on the Lancia to begin with, but being inside the garage she hasn't got damp, and so the metal dust hasn't been rusting. The white PVC door frame and window at the rear of the garage is another matter though. I've had to scrub the orange marks off that a few times! Vareles, there are a few in Austrailia, quite a few guys on one of the Lancia forums I'm on are from that side of the planet. The price on that one you liked to is probably quite high as it's a fairly rare one, being a series 1 with the 1.3s engine. The stripe would have been factory colours for the HF cars, I don't intend to fit one. I don't have a problem with the stripe, it can look nice on the right car, but I would never have one on my car seeing as it's not an HF. Likewise, while I like it, I'd not paint my cam cover the blue and yellow HF style, seeing as my car isn't an HF. Ettorebugatti, I'm with you that it's not looking 100% right yet with the black, will have to do some thinking. I'd like to keep to either body colours or satin black, as the satin black is kinda a nod towards the Fulvia works rally cars that had satin black bonnets and boot lids. I think some more photoshop and thinking is needed. Anyway I made a small but fairly useful discovery today, while making a start on cleaning the inside of the car out I noticed some wear to the door catch. Photos not great but that lump that hangs below the main aluminium body is what actually operates the catch mechanism. It's quite heavily worn, and the drivers door has always been a bit of a pain to get properly shut, requiring a proper slam to latch fully even after I did my best adjusting the catches. I whipped the catch out, gave it a quick blast with the welder to build the lump back up and then filed it to shape. I put it back in the car and immediately the door shut better. Only requiring a light slam to latch fully With some more adjustments, it now shuts with as little effort and as cleanly as the doors of any car I've had. I did the passengers side the same, and thats ended up even better! Properly well oiled smooth machine click closed. After that I finished hoovering the inside out and cleaned the windows. Before giving the car a very quick once over with a sponge. There we are, all set for the MOT! I'm quite nervous, really hope I get to take her for a proper drive Monday
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Nov 23, 2013 20:44:56 GMT
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Good luck on the MOT. A man of your skill nervous? I imagine it's more about the hassle of having to go for a recheck if you fail. Perhaps you could give a description of what a MOT is like for those of us that live in parts of the world where inspections are not required. And how do you get there? Do they issue a temporary so you can drive to the station?
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Clement
Europe
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Nov 23, 2013 22:30:39 GMT
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She's looking great!!! I was really worried when you discovered the car wasn't straight at the front, and now everything is sorted to a very high standard. Congrats!
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goldnrust
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Nov 23, 2013 22:35:23 GMT
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Yes to be fair I'm not 'worried' that they may find a problem that's insurmountable, but I just hope it doesn't fail on something that could be time consuming to fix.
You're allowed to drive a car with an expired text to an MOT station, as long as the test is pre-booked and you have all the other legal requirements (insurance, tax, correct driving licence, etc). You can also drive it home, even if it fails, as long as the fail isn't considered to make the car a danger (you'd need something fairly drastic like missing a wheel/no brakes at all). Basically they check the road worthiness of a car, measuring the emissions, checking the brakes are efficient enough, making sure all the lights work as they should, checking suspension bushes and ball joints, checking wheel bearings, checking the condition of tyres, checking for rust, etc. It takes about 15-30 mins.
Most enthusiasts have no reason to fail on anything obvious, but it's easy to fall foul of the emissions test, or have a handbrake that doesn't quite meet the spec, etc. Also there are a couple of points which are subjective, for example suspension bushes can have some cosmetic perishing as long as there's no excessive movement in the bush, but where each tester draws the line is different.
Thanks Clement. I was worried too at that stage! Luckily for me the major issues with straightness were pretty obvious when it came down to it, so easy to fix.
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2013 22:40:30 GMT by goldnrust
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