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Sept 26, 2016 20:22:10 GMT
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Sooo - I just could not resist! It was only 100km away (one way) and reasonably cheap priced. That'll be number 9 However, it's in reaaly bad condition - this will donate a load wheel to the early jack and then serve as spare-parts donor. Or in other words; I'm breaking this one. It was only a by-catch anyway. The interesting part with this purchase is this: A genuine Steinbock rebuild kit for the hydraulic ram Just to make me feel involved,my Dad used to work for Boss Trucks,formerly Lancer Boss,before Steinbock bought them out.
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Hi! And I think they'r still in business, making all sorts of fork lifts and loaders and what not. I just made a short video clip of the big Steinbock doing some lifting. Not very entertaining, but if you always wanted to know how fast it lifts, here you go: Apart from that I've not had time to either tinker with or buy more Steinbocks. But I just found an very interessting ad the other day - let's see... Cheers, Jan Edit; it appears to be the very first Steinbock jack video on Youtube You've just witnessed history being made!
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Long time no see, eh? After a long time of waiting. As stated in October 2016... Apart from that I've not had time to either tinker with or buy more Steinbocks. But I just found an very interessting ad the other day - let's see... ...I found an ad. Priced way too high. So I waited, knowing no-one would buy this for the asking price. And last week, the price had finally dropped enough. This didn't mean waiting was over. It must have been one of the worst buying experiences ever. If I had not desired to buy this very much, I would have thrown the towel and gone home. After a week of text messages, I agreed to meet the seller at 13°° yesterday. I was to call him 1h before arrival, he'd throw the thing in his van and would tell me where he is. well, ok. Bit sketchy, but what do I know what a busy bloke he is. So - after a quick detour through what looked like the the pre-judice lead image of far eastern Europe... ...I called him 1h prior to my estimated arrival. He's still busy working, I should take my time (remeber this!), he'd need at least 2h to be ready. Oh well... So I continued to drive towards my assumed destination, not having an adress - just the name of a town. If he had thrown the hting in his van, why not tell me where he is? Anyway. I drove around for a bit, took a walk in the park. Got me something to eat & drink. And after 2.5h had gone - I called him again. Yeah, well - he's just finished work. It would take him at most 30-45 minutes. He doesn't know the adress of his storage unit, he'll find out. So I waited. Half an hour. One hour. After one and a quarter hour, I had enough and headed back home... About 1 3/4h after the last contact, I received a text with a location. At first I didn't care. I wanted this thing, but enough is enough, I almost didn't care anymore. Almost. But a couple of kilometers later, I reprogrammed the sat nav. I was about 35 minutes away from the location. Sheeeeiiit. I had waited so long, driven all the way - screw it. I texted him back in his style; "Ok". And took the next exit on the Autobahn. 15 minutes later I receive a text "how long will it take you?". Fvck you, blöödy cvnt!!! Anyway, I arrived at a container unit, the bloke was actually OK - we lifted the thing into my car - and off he went. Probably cursing me for taking my time... On the way home, waiting wasn't over - I got cought in a major traffic jam for over one hour. The guy told me he's just closed his garage (just? He advertised all the stuff in October last year...). I was not surprised at all, given his ability to get his sh!t together. If the thing wasn't so rare and in apparently good condition, I would have given up much earlier. However, this is only the second Hydro Crab I ever saw for sale... I had to have it. and it's in much nicer condition as my other Hydro Crab - and came with the original pump lever! Which was my main reson for buying it. So all in all - I was still in a good mood, knowing I finally had it in the back of my car. More later, when I figured out a way to get this thing out of the boot... It must weigh close to 150kg, if not more. You can barely lift it with 2 persons. Cheers, Jan
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Jan back on the trolley jack trail. Love it!
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Jan 29, 2017 14:02:20 GMT
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Yes! Current herd of capricorns now has 9 specimens Unloaded using the old, leaky engine crane (needs a re-fill every time I use it...) and a ratchet strap. And why be happy with one, if you can have two? And comparing my reproduction of the pump lever to the original: I just had a drawing from a brochure - given that I got pretty close! Onl the original is not a pipe like I assumed, but seems to be a solid, forged(!) piece. Only the bottom end is some HEAVY walled tube (about 50% wall thickness) welded on. Gave it a lick of oil here and there, greased it - and stored away. Hydraulics work flawless, everything is original. It even has the plastic knobs on the two release handles (which snap back like they'r supposed to). Overall, this one is in 100% better shape than the first Hydro Crab I bought... Much happy me! Cheers, Jan
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Apr 16, 2017 13:15:50 GMT
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Hi there! Since all my other little projects are in a phase of stagnation (missing tools, missing parts), I thought why not finally inspect the little one. I bought this almost two years ago. Since then I did nothing but push it from one corner to the next. A long overdue inspection was necessary. Removing the hydraulic unit is very simple; remove a big pin and slide it out. After removal of the release-valve, I knew this thing is fvcked... Sadly. Full of water, oil-water sludge and tons of rust. The plunger next to it is the pump plunger. It's stuck SOLID. Going by the original drawing, it should just slide out. Which it doesn't. The gap around it is full of rust. And the piston is also pretty badly corroded. This has a sort of strange arrangement - the piston rod is fixed to the body and the cylinder moves out. Pushing the lift arm with a sleeve that rest against the gland nut. I was not able to remove the gland nut, I don't have a pin wrench. And since it's Jesus day, I didn't fancy making a lot of noise fabricating one. I don't know what I'm going to do with this. The pump plunger is soaking in penetrating oil - I'll see. But I guess it's rustet badly to the pump cylinder, both parts are probably damaged beyond repair. As is the piston rod. The only thing that's very good is the chassis. The castor wheels freed up with a bit of oil, nothing's stuck or overly worn. Maybe I'll just wait and buy another one to donate it's hydraulics. Once I have a pin wrench, I disassemble the hydraulic cylinder and then go from there. But I fear this will require a re-manufacture of 85% of all parts of the hydraulic... It's beyond my understanding how this can get SO rusty inside. Either it's been in the rain forever or flood damaged - I don't know. But it's BAD. Though I was almost expecting this. So no real big surprise here... Cheers, Jan
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Hi! Big update. Literally. Yesterday I went for a drive through rural Lower Bavaria. Got really close to the Alps. But my first destination was a very small town literally in the woods. Single lane road, next best thing to a dirt road. You get the picture. The seller himself wasn't present, but his father was - very friendly guy. Told me about the Steinbock I bought. He bought a new Fend tractor which was too heavy to lift it. So this was sold on. Good for me. He also had another Steinbock which he will keep, since it's just such a handy thing. And speaking of handy - well, this thing is not. I didn't ask for a measurement when I bought it. Thinking it would be about he same size of the "regular" high lift jacks. Turns out - I was a bit wrong. That's a queen! The mother of all Steinbocks (capricorns)... Hooooly fück!! It's over TWO meters long and barely fits into the Taxi. What a monster!! So with this rearview, I continued towards the south, closer towards the Alps: The foot pedal was rubbing against my elbow.... The sat nav guided me right into the middle of nowhere, a single farm, surrounded by only forest, meadows and land. Again a very friendly seller. I had bought another specimen which was not far from where I had bought the BIG one. We loaded it into the car and I headed further into the south. Met with someone I wanted to meet for a time, we had a long-ish chat about many things and went to a overlook for a better view of the Alps. Forgot my camera, so this cräppy phone pic has got to do... I then headed back, to grab a couple of merguez on the way. With a more or less very much improvised grille... Well - and to give you a perspective; to the left is a "big" Steinbock, to the right is the mother of all Steinbocks.... Füüüüück... I literally have no space for that thing. So either i sell two of the gearbox jacks, or pass this one on. The "little" one I bought for spares, it'll get sold on. Though it's in pretty good shape, but has been painted over. It's also just a 800kg jack. and the big one - well, it can lift 1600kg, and he can lift them 1 meter high (almost 40 inches). So basically it could lift the whole car 1 meter up in the air. Nuts. This was the most stupid Steinbock purchase ever... But it's extraordinarily rare, I never saw another like it for sale. It's got a 3-digit production number, I guess it was only made in very low quantities, maybe just on special order? I'll try to find out. Cheers, Jan
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Love this thread. You will need to find a bigger garage.
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Apr 23, 2017 12:45:17 GMT
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Thank you! And yeah, more space is certainly on the agenda... Unloaded, checked, wiped off the dust and topped up the oil. Seems to work fine, nothing's seized up. It took me a while to figure out how to operate this one, though. It has no release-handle nor valve or knob or cam or anything like that. It's in many respects a completely different animal to all the other Steinbock jacks I own. Also has a rather unusual hydraulic cylinder arrangement. The piston rod is fixed to the chassis and the cylinder is attached to the lift-arm. And the pump rod resp. the pump runs inside the piston rod. It also has a very sturdy mechanical safety, two big ratchets lock into the cylinder to mechanically lock it into place and prevent it from droping down. The handle on the side is to release the ratchets. And it took me a while to find out that to release the hydraulic; you have to push the pump all the way in. I'm not sure I like the way this works, I'm yet to try it with a car. But I have a feeling it's going to be a bit sketchy. Anyway, two more added to the flock. But not sure if they stay. Cheers, Jan
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Apr 24, 2017 10:22:41 GMT
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I was just saying to my OH yesterday that I needed a better jack that could lift a decent height and weight, but I think that might be over kill
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Just fixed my own vintage Epco K40, when you have good look at these you realise how much better made they are and so easy to fix, I was going to sell the old Epco but its long reach so might be handy, so now keeping it and selling my need jack
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Apr 29, 2017 16:12:19 GMT
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winchman - got any pictures? Always happy to see picture of other old/vintage jacks in this thread! -------- Since my left arm is mostly disfunctional due to a bad shoulder, I only did some minor stuff today. I wanted to grease the H1.6/100 - but found that my grease gun doesn't have a piece to work with the "cone" type nipples. So I played with some adapters, found a Mini head stud has a matching thread. And chucked one in the lathe. Drilled a 1.5mm hole in the tip, drilled through - et voila: Worked flawless! Though I can't get to the big shaft that conects the hydraulic ram with the lift arm. Would have needed a head stud & drill about 3x as long. Well... At least all the other parts are now greased. So - will it lift? Yes it will! With ease. But releasing it is a bit - hmmm. I think there must be a sort of valve to limit the amount of fluid going back, so far I have not found it though. Maybe it's internal. But I think it's releasing too much fluid, since it drops rather quick. And there's no "adjustment", it's just all or nothing. So there must be a internal limiter for backflow to slow it dropping. It's veeeery slowly sinking if left under load though. Like so many do. But on this one, it's not realy an safety issue. Due to the very beefy mechanical lock. Here's a closer look of it: As you can see, it has two positions. And appears to be very sturdy and rigidly tied into both cylinder & chassis. I'm not convinced of the method of releasing it, but I LOVE the mechanical drop safety! This is such a clever detail and a HUGE improvement in safety! So far I have not seen another jack with a similar safety... But feel free to educate me That's all for now. Cheers, Jan
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Apr 30, 2017 13:13:09 GMT
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I will post some next week. Many years ago I sold tools for a living and I also sold Epco jacks, thats how I know what it was as many are unmarked. I also have two more in the repair queue a 60s Dunlop and a 60s Epco, might have to part with them once repaired as I am stuck for room, but I do like fixing them
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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60's and before stuff seems to be the best! When they just over-engineered stuff to last a life-time. And when people were willing to pay a lot for stuff that lasted them a life-time. I found an interesting thread on Garage Journal, some amazing stuff from across the pond in there! Link: www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130285And I found out about something when I looked at all the serial numbers & how they'r satmped... And why be happy with one, if you can have two? Blöödy hell, what are the odds!?!? They have serial numbers 1757 and 1760... Cheers, Jan
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Since I had a general clean-up, I could not resist arranging them all for a group picture.
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This is how those odd little local museums start
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Hey, I picked up this Beast a while back, Probably more 'retro' than Vintage. Do you recognise it? I'm trying to get some seals for it as the old ones are non existent.
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1970 Porsche 911E 2002 Porsche Boxster S 2002 Peugeot Partner 1.9sdi
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May 19, 2017 13:12:53 GMT
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This is a great thread. I have an old 5 ton trolley jack in the garage since the 80's, never gave it a second thought, its massive, weighs a ton and covered in grime, works perfectly and always in the way. Due to this thread and your enthusiasm for these great old machines I took a closer look at it. It is a Dunlop 5 ton made in 1969, the engineering is a work of art, thick steel welded and bolted together like a bridge. So I partially stripped it and spent hours cleaning off the thick oil, grease and dirt mix as best I could and discovered it was originally yellow with black wheels. After cleaning it as best I could I have repainted it in its original colours, it is almost finished. Is it ok to add some pictures here?
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May 19, 2017 17:19:39 GMT
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Pictures please. Now I might be wrong but I did wonder if Epco made the Dunlop jacks as I have one of each and they both say made in Leeds?
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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