filly
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May 28, 2014 18:27:35 GMT
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So.... The MG went, as I'd already seen this advertised in London. Too good to be true I thought, I'd always wanted a Pembleton, and a part built one seemed like a good opportunity to build one to my spec, but not have to start from scratch. I'm not sure how many Pembletons people have seen, but they are more of a 'special' than Kit car. Phil Gregory at Pembleton (he IS Pembleton) provides a tubular chassis, on which 2CV donor parts are added (suspension, engine etc). The builder than makes their own panels from 1.2mm ali, so although similar, most are different. The plan with this one is to keep it quite 'stealth' and as vintage as possible. 19" thin wire wheels, lots of satin/matt black, minimal chrome. I'm planning to paint it too, have a colour in mind, but as with everything this can change. The dash will be taken out and some 'propper' clocks fitted. The po has done some nice work on the car so far, and it came with lots of nice lights etc. although sadly these were all in chrome and will be sold/pained I guess. Still not sure what to do with the exhausts - I was thinking about a nice satin black, but maybe it would be a shame to paint over the good chrome here. It was collected from London yesterday (13 hours of driving!), and we made a monumental error of judgement with the size. To cut a long story shot it ended up balanced on top of a 4x7' trailer (its 4'6" x 10'6") My current plan of attack is: 1) Get running 2) Clean/re paint what's there 3) New Dash layout 4) Electrics and loom 5) Finish rear bodywork - I'm hoping to incorporate a rear floor and mudguard. 6) Paint 7) Add Phil's 19" wheels Obviously, much much more in between, but it appears to be a good starting point. Phil
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Last Edit: Mar 31, 2016 0:50:37 GMT by filly
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filly
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Sept 9, 2014 20:36:37 GMT
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Evening, I know there wasn’t much love for this first time round, but thought I’d share an update anyway – even just to help me get down what I’ve done. I know the Pembleton is a bit of a ‘kit car’, but it really is a million miles from all the doggy 70’s things left out there. I’d like to think of it as more of a special – the frame is bought, suspension is 2CV – then you make the rest up as you like. You can probably imagine that this is the short version of the build... Anyway, I've dad a good go the last few months and it’s pretty much taken over my life. First - everything off: It’s been in a shed for so long, everything needed cleaning and re-painting. I ended up taking pretty much everything off and starting again. Including dash out: Prep for a new one: And in: This was the first chance to see the colour i’d chosen too – LR Keswick Green. Looks good on the dash, so fingers crossed on the car. MSVA isn’t as strict as SVA dash wise, and it’s geared for bikes, however I still needed a dip switch and horn which could be operated with my hands on the wheel. I’d bought a good indicator lever without dip from the US and didn’t want to mount something extra, so it meant both dip and horn became foot operated..... Next were the electrics. I pulled out what was left of the 2cv setup and started again. All new wires bought from autosparks, with the vintage style braided cloth sleeve (although they’re just modern PVC wires underneath). Loads of companies (like CBS) offer a pre made wiring ‘module’ but they’re always low on relays for my liking, and the Pemb doesn’t need anything for fans, radio etc – so it seemed like a good idea to start from scratch. The fuse box was from CBS – split into 3 parts – 6 fused direct lives from the battery, 6 fused switched lives, and 12 earth connections. Hopefully it will make fault finding nice and simple... I’d decided that a hinged bonnet was the way to go. The best method I’d seen was to silver solder a thread onto a section of hinge. The rear mounting is fixed, but the front has a knurled nut underneath which means you can pull the whole bonnet off quickly. The Pembleton forum is very helpful, and a chap near to me offered the use of his metalwork tools (guillotine, folder, bender, press etc) and helped cut and make the bonnet. I’m trying to convince my wife that we should take it to France next year. To help with persuasion I removed the rear bulkhead fitted by the first builder, and made this rear floor with mudguard – I’m no expert but it must take an extra pair of shoes compared to standard.... As the chassis was so old – it wasn’t intended to pass a MSVA (no seatbelts!). This has meant some visits to other owners of new chassis and having to make a central support stay to hold the belts. The plumber in the village had been round one night and offered to weld my new support in. He’s only 300 yards away and this gave me some motivation to get it ready to drive down and get the work done. Fuel lines went in and electrics connected up. Moved outside (sounds simple but the cow shed door is 4’ and the car is 4’6”. Anyway - it was soon out, if backless... (The battery is just there for now - will be moved). After a successful drive (with no silencers ) it was soon back with the frame welded in. This gets me to last week – I was planning to paint it next spring, but progress has been so good I thought I’d do it this year. My old man is bloody good as painting, but it still meant we were fighting the ends of winter and I had to get a shift on. Que a few weekends of very late nights getting the back panel and rear measured/cut/drilled/de-burred/bonded and riveted. to this.... Fitting the fuel filler is another story, but basically the use of marine fuel hose and a marine boat floor filler did the job. We sprayed the primer on Monday: Hopefully top will go on tomorrow and Thurs, weather dependent. The cow shed isn’t too warm, but hopefully not too cold to paint with cellulose. The plan is to get plenty of top on and then there is something to cut back, even if we get some bloom. My main enemy in there is dust – I bought some polythene sheeting and made a false roof out of it, which should stop most the curse word falling from the roof. Next is still wires , exhausts and lights etc. Quite keen on doing some sticker work and going for a real pre-war racer look – although apart from a white roundel I’m not sure how. Ideas? Cheers Phil
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Sept 9, 2014 21:02:11 GMT
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love this defo and never seen one before and always fancied a 3 wheeler maybe a lomax i though but now wow
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Davenger
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Sept 9, 2014 21:12:13 GMT
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Proper cool
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omega
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Sept 9, 2014 21:22:34 GMT
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I like this,but could never own one think they look to much like coffins on wheels.
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luckyseven
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Sept 9, 2014 21:24:58 GMT
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That's some proper tidy work there. That fusebox is lovely, soooo neat!
Bit late now it's in primer but all that lovely bare alloy and rivet lines made it look like it was begging for a bright yellow nose like a P45 Mustang. And maybe a bombslut. Everyone likes a nice bombslut, don't they?
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Sept 9, 2014 23:33:08 GMT
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I agree, would have been nice bare but protected with a 'bombslut' on the nose. Maybe a couple of Prius silhouettes crossed out below her...
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dw1603
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Sept 10, 2014 12:10:53 GMT
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This is fabulous! Managed to miss your first posts but will bookmark it now. Love the instrument panel, definitely less is more, subtle. I think the 30's racer look will be perfect, can't wait to see it finished.
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tdk
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Sept 10, 2014 12:17:26 GMT
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Good work!
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Sept 10, 2014 13:47:56 GMT
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Really liking this, especially the copper (boiler?) front nose! Are you thinking of switching the wheels for spoked ones? I realise its hard with a citroen PCD and 3 studs but it'd be so worth it I reckon, WII fighter style. Looks great, bookmarked
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TS
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Sept 10, 2014 19:01:59 GMT
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Amazing work.
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filly
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Sept 10, 2014 19:30:14 GMT
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Thanks for all the love - means a lot! Love the idea of a P45 Mustang theme - the Aluminium looked good bare, but in places there was just so many marks from years of storage, it wouldn't have been worth keeping I don't think - It needed something to cover it a little! Nose cone is a copper boiler cowel - well spotted! 100% going for spoked wheels. You can get a 3 stud splined adapter and run something like MGB wheels, but they're heavy and (imo) look too clumsy on the car. The aim is for 19" Austin 7 styled spoked wheels painted black. Hopefully all other accessories (exhaust, lights etc) will be black also, just don't wether to go for matte or satin. It's had an extra coat of primer today, a couple of lilac to body up and four of Kewswick Green. Looks absolutely amazing and I'm so pleased with the finish so far. There's plenty of paint left over so the plan is for a few more coats tomorrow to try and get some depth to the paint. Sneak preview.... Thanks again, Phil
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gavs1
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Sept 10, 2014 19:57:51 GMT
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Can't wait, really like that,
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Sept 11, 2014 13:28:00 GMT
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quality, i love all the exposed rivety-ness.
will the engine be outside like the morgans ?
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luckygti
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Sept 11, 2014 14:21:31 GMT
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That is very cool, when I've downloaded my camera I have some shots of the new Morgan all 'bombered' up. Looks cool as, all painted by hand/airbrush. Love the green on this, bare ally is so yesteryear!!
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Sept 11, 2014 15:28:52 GMT
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looks good remember one on a car is born.
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qwerty
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Sept 11, 2014 17:49:08 GMT
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Excellent work, love the colour really suits it.
Very much looking forward to seeing it done.
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cianha
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Sept 11, 2014 18:04:27 GMT
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Love these! Only spotted this thread now, really tidy re-engineering going on there, rear storage is ace. Are you mounting a spare on the rear?
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filly
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Sept 11, 2014 19:35:27 GMT
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Cheers - good day of painting again today. It's got a tonne of paint on now - and testament to my dad's painting skills (plus good weather, quality thinners and no dust) its out the gun with a cracking gloss already. Engine wise it'll be hung out front Morgan style. I could fit a guzzi 750 which do look good - but I'm pretty tempted with a blown cv in the future which could be superb.... Anyway - some piccys. Won't be many more for a while now. Phil
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filly
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Sept 27, 2014 16:23:48 GMT
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Good afternoon, It's been a bit quiet on the western front. Back at work means I don't have much time to get on with the car. I've not cut the paint back yet either - saving that until it's really hard, and good for a time when I need some positivity in the build. I did have a nightmare though with the bonnet paint - I'd painted over the hinge hoping that it would somehow crack in all the right places, but it wasn't to be and the second I moved the bonnet hinge it pulled a load of paint off. I've taken the paint off the hinge and touched up the marks - still needs a wet flat and paint, but should be okay once on: Anyway, life goes on. The first builder had put the side panned about 2" too high which left me with a bit of a nightmare. Getting in and out could easily catch the sheet ali and would bend it and make a mess. I'd decided to cut the side out and fit a nice wooden arm rest which would look in period. Also, the one part of the whole build I wasnt happy with was the overlap from the top deck - it looked a mess and didn't quite sit right. Adding an extra few inches to the arm rest would mean I would cut the whole but out and cover the mess up. I'd asked my dad (retired and handy) about making arm rests a while back, and described what I wanted. Within a couple of days he was up at my house with a prototype, which quickly turned into these beauties: Here is a trial fit. The plan was to countersink some bolts and hide them with a wood plug on top. Countersinking with the tried and tested 'masking tape on drill bit' method: Anyway, it worked and I was relieved! Next was to use the bungs to cover the head over. I wanted the new wood to follow the groves of the arm rest, which took a while to get right, but fast forward to this: You can just see the outline of the bung on the right - very happy! Next - danish oil (my favourite!), and I decided to put the bonnet on - makes it look like progress... So we're currently here..... Until next time..... Phil
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