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Jun 21, 2015 16:27:33 GMT
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Farmer nipped next door to collect a bit of top soil. Guess what he was driving. The mighty 590 Had an hour on it today. Lucky so for most of the fixes have involved a large hammer. The seat is quite bad but I'm going to repair it as there about £300 for a new one with the frame and damper. I'm not bothered about it moving back and forward or up etc, just want it secure. It had pop out the runner so I put it back and bent the runners back into place, sorted that and painted t with some zinc primer Need to weld a plate on the other side before fitting it
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dubscum
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Jun 21, 2015 16:33:26 GMT
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When I've welded a plate in I'll paint it black, Also painted the fuel tank in zinc primer after wire brushing the surface rust off. It will get a coat of sliver mist soon Got some fast drying clearer that helps with the wire brushing
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Jun 21, 2015 16:36:52 GMT
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Got them moving but think I'll end up drilling new holes in the runner and bolting the seat frame to them So there you go, I've painted some things, soaked things and hit things.
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Jun 21, 2015 22:55:53 GMT
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Enjoying following this thread. It encourages me to work on my '57 Fordson Major. I'm always amazed at the rust repairs you guys in the UK do on stuff that most of us in NZ would consider too far gone to even attempt and how you nearly always seem to do it well.
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logicaluk
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Jun 27, 2015 15:57:56 GMT
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Nice tractor, id love fergy 10 or 12 but there getting pricey. This made me smile too A teeny tubo install would help with breathing...... I love RR, Dan
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Nice tractor, id love fergy 10 or 12 but there getting pricey. This made me smile too A teeny tubo install would help with breathing...... I love RR, Dan I'm just surprised no-one has suggested lowering it yet. Massey on air anyone?
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logicaluk
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Jun 29, 2015 23:14:44 GMT
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Nice tractor, id love fergy 10 or 12 but there getting pricey. This made me smile too I love RR, Dan I'm just surprised no-one has suggested lowering it yet. Massey on air anyone? I recon would look good parked next to that landrover.
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Flip that front beam / steering rods for a 6"? drop at the front for massive positive rake and when you refit the seat put spacers on the front of seat so you're seat is still level and job done.
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dubscum
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Now your talking !!!! Can any photoshop wizards slam the 590?
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i thought it had run out of fuel and the drive home also pulled dirt through the lines and mucked fill the fuel filter, i brought some more fuel and started pouring to in 10 gallon and it was over flowing so it hadn't run out. i cleaned out the filter and bled the system and it still wouldn't start. After investigation there was no diesel getting to the injectors so i started a backward losen off of fuel lines to see how far it was getting, turns out it was going into which i think isn't a pump just distributes the fuel to the injectors. i loosened off all the lines and tapped it with a lump hamer while turning it over, this worked, not sure if a bit of curse word was stuck or it just wanted wakening, either way to worked and fired up nicely (after tightening all the lines etc) the PTO is running constant and knob on top of the lever is missing so i couldnt turn it off, but its working which is the main thing, the 3 point linkage at the back it working very slowly with about 6" of movement so with a fluid and filter change it should be go! I've been doing a bit of reading and old tractors don't like new diesel its thinner finds leaks, looks like the best way to solve this is 100/1 2 stoke oil mix, i might try this, i did add a cup of oil to it on the recommendation of a farmer. Keep it all lubed. i had the dash off to look at the wiring as nothing works and all the wire look good and some have power to the dash but the fuse box itself it badly corroded so I've ordered a new 8 was cartage sure box hopefully have some new parts so i can carry on playing my curse word cat Derrick has been involved in every build I've done over the past 8 years. I've found asleep under bonnets when doing engine swaps on golfs, in the engine bay of my old camper and even uploaded photos of stuff and spotted him in the back ground or in the car and i haven't noticed, he's finally given his approval to the rough but tough 590
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Hi, that is the injector pump, Fuel from the filter comes into the pipe at the back of the pump, goes out through the four injector pipes around the back body and any excess fuel goes back to the tank through the pipe at the front. Modern diesel is low on Sulphur which was a lubricant so the oil in the tank will help because older pumps are not keen on it. CAV DPA pumps are notorious for packing up if any air gets in the system so check all the pipework and connections to makes sure they are good, It might be an idea to change any Copper washers for new ones because banjo fittings in particular tend to distort the Copper washer and they then draw air in. It might be an idea to fit an agglomerator/sedimenter with a glass bowl between the tank and the rest of the system so you can see if there's lots of shi...muck getting through and stop it going onwards.
Colin
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Last Edit: Jul 8, 2015 20:10:53 GMT by colnerov
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Rich
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massey ferguson 590 Rich
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The thing you think isn't a pump is a pump, it's THE fuel pump. Maybe have a look at a few articles on how diesel injection works, just for your own piece of mind. It'll also help having a basic operating principle in mind to help diagnose future faults nice project by the way. I get to play with a David Brown (can't remember what) and a couple of Fergies, the only runner currently out of the fergies is a mid 50's grey-gold diesel. Goes like stink.
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well blow me! thanks colin i will get some copper washers. Rich its a tonge in cheek thread
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well blow me! thanks colin i will get some copper washers. Rich its a tonge in cheek thread I don't really understand your response, I was trying to help you out and also saying that I am enjoying your thread and build.. :/
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Jul 10, 2015 11:40:24 GMT
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Itn't it an inlet air heating glow plug as opposed to a pre-chamber glow plug? I would have thought its definitely indirect injection. A teeny tubo install would help with breathing...... It's a Perkins 4.248 The glowplug is more accurately known as a 'Thermostart' As said, it squirts a little diesel over a heating element to provide heat in the inlet manifold. It's definitely a Direct injection engine. Glow plugs are generally used in Indirect injection as they need a little help due to the pre combustion chamber reducing the efficiency of the compression ignition a little, but they are usually a little quieter when running as they have less 'diesel knock' Some of the vintage (1930s/40s) indirect injection diesels engines we work on have a compression change over valve to increase compression to aid starting instead of glowplugs Those rotary CAV pumps can be a complete . We have a Perkins 3.152 with the same type of pump in our forklift and most of the time it runs an absolute treat and starts straight up, whatever the weather. But if it ever gets run out of fuel or develops a leak, my god is it a twunt to bleed! Also, they will not last long with any amount of dirt in the fuel so keep changing them filters (Also avoid using ANYTHING other than diesel in it!!) Looks like a cracking little (big) project anyway. Always nice to see old work horses brought back to life
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Jul 10, 2015 14:28:07 GMT
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Our 575 loves to run out of fuel, however I've now become so adept at bleeding it through I can get it done inside a couple of mins now, whip out an injector, turn it over, loosen the bleed screw, done...
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Jul 10, 2015 15:05:17 GMT
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well blow me! thanks colin i will get some copper washers. Rich its a tonge in cheek thread I don't really understand your response, I was trying to help you out and also saying that I am enjoying your thread and build.. :/ i know Rich just saying i'm just having a laugh with it. all information an advice is more then welcome. after every use now it need to be bled, the after market fuel pump is poor! and dripping diesel out, so i'm going to take it off take it apart and put some gasket sealant and thread lock on the screws, then see if i can get a rebuild kit for the original one. theres also a leak on the top bleed screw on the CAV pump, so need to get a copper washer. there was a couple of empty easy starts in it when i emptied it, so i think this was a factor of to being parked up! hopefully after the fuel pump tidy up and fuel filter clean and the copper washer, it should start nicely on the key, fuse box arrived in the post today too
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Jul 10, 2015 15:06:10 GMT
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p.s thanks for any and all advise and input into this thread, it all helps!!
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