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Mar 29, 2016 21:22:06 GMT
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Knowing how jet engines tend to respond (ie: bloody slowly) you could technically fit it, but driving it would be "interesting", haha Two solutions exist: 1) adapt a CVT gearbox to work, by having the throttle pedal manually control the gear ratios, and the gearstick replaced with a locking throttle lever - a clutch would still be required. 2) convert the turbine into a generator, and drive an electric powertrain, much like these fellows did with an mgf: www.jetpower.co.uk/gtcar_home.htmAnnoying website layout, but an interesting read nonetheless
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Mar 29, 2016 22:09:44 GMT
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Knowing how jet engines tend to respond (ie: bloody slowly) you could technically fit it, but driving it would be "interesting", haha Two solutions exist: 1) adapt a CVT gearbox to work, by having the throttle pedal manually control the gear ratios, and the gearstick replaced with a locking throttle lever - a clutch would still be required. 2) convert the turbine into a generator, and drive an electric powertrain, much like these fellows did with an mgf: www.jetpower.co.uk/gtcar_home.htmAnnoying website layout, but an interesting read nonetheless Actually three solutions exist. My favoured one would be the semi-automatic Citroen C Matic gearbox as fitted to the GSA. I've also looked at some snowmobile CVT's which would handle the power easy-peasy. IMHO I think if you're going the have a turbine car then an electric powertrain is a bit too modern. Anyhoo this is all a bit long term as it's the Goddess engine swap finished first then the SpridJET and I'm still going to look at the cache of bike frames this week so it may still end up as a bike.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:23:22 GMT
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Knowing how jet engines tend to respond (ie: bloody slowly) you could technically fit it, but driving it would be "interesting", haha Two solutions exist: 1) adapt a CVT gearbox to work, by having the throttle pedal manually control the gear ratios, and the gearstick replaced with a locking throttle lever - a clutch would still be required. 2) convert the turbine into a generator, and drive an electric powertrain, much like these fellows did with an mgf: www.jetpower.co.uk/gtcar_home.htmAnnoying website layout, but an interesting read nonetheless Actually three solutions exist. My favoured one would be the semi-automatic Citroen C Matic gearbox as fitted to the GSA. I've also looked at some snowmobile CVT's which would handle the power easy-peasy. IMHO I think if you're going the have a turbine car then an electric powertrain is a bit too modern. Anyhoo this is all a bit long term as it's the Goddess engine swap finished first then the SpridJET and I'm still going to look at the cache of bike frames this week so it may still end up as a bike. Really? Too modern Ahem These were built from the 1950's and I'm pretty sure diesel-electric locos were in use before that. A lot of people shy from electric as a transmission, but really it can't be that hard can it? And in terms of cost, what would you need? X2 motors and a switch?
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Mar 31, 2016 19:52:42 GMT
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I too, was thinking more along the lines of the diesel-electric engines that trains use.
One thing to bear in mind if fitting into a motorbike, is the gyroscopic effect the turbine will give. It'll make turning... interesting, lol
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Frankenhealey
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Mar 31, 2016 21:34:38 GMT
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Really? Too modern Ahem These were built from the 1950's and I'm pretty sure diesel-electric locos were in use before that. A lot of people shy from electric as a transmission, but really it can't be that hard can it? And in terms of cost, what would you need? X2 motors and a switch? I've researched this before and a proper turbine/electric solution would probably double the weight of the vehicle and if Chrysler didn't need electrics then hopefully I can come up with a bush mechanic solution. I too, was thinking more along the lines of the diesel-electric engines that trains use. One thing to bear in mind if fitting into a motorbike, is the gyroscopic effect the turbine will give. It'll make turning... interesting, lol Jay Leno reckoned his turbine bike was one of the most dangerous things he had driven so what's not to like?
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Direct drive Gas Turbine.......
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Direct drive Gas Turbine....... Won't fit in a 2CV or motorbike frame
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Direct drive Gas Turbine....... Won't fit in a 2CV or motorbike frame That's not a very RR attitude is it.... P.
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Won't fit in a 2CV or motorbike frame That's not a very RR attitude is it.... P. Of all people on RR you should be able to think laterally - maybe a 2CV chassis with a bike either side as sponsons? A bit like those mad racing skiffs georgeb shows us in his Manilla thread.
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That's not a very RR attitude is it.... P. Of all people on RR you should be able to think laterally - maybe a 2CV chassis with a bike either side as sponsons? A bit like those mad racing skiffs georgeb shows us in his Manilla thread. Well it's certainly an idea but I'll know on both the 2CV and bike front by next weekend so please watch this space.
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So the fortuitous day dawned and we hitched up the retro horsebox to go scavenging. Now I'm a great lurker on 'Tip Treasures' threads such as grizz 's but I never seem to see anything when I'm down our local except for broken Ikea (one careful owner) TV stands and old golf clubs so it was extra exciting that the deal I'd done on the four bikes also included dibs on anything else mechanical or toolwise. On arrival with my friend Sean we see Dangerous and his Dad loading up the power pump truck that he wanted from the hoard. What that was doing down the bottom of a long suburban garden will have to remain a mystery. This was the first view Tat to the left of you Tat to the right of you (Polo Breadvan not included) More Even more I began to realise that I would need a considerably bigger boat, I mean horsebox. What we had known we were coming for. Panther Sloper, two bantams and a C15 First load and only load of the day. There is more to come Back at the Volcano Lair what do we have? This is the 1947 Panther 600. The cylinder head is missing and the barrel full of water. Not a problem as this is going to be sized for one of the pumpset turbines. Springer hardtail (in HD parlance) mmmmmmmm. Now come the sellers. I need to sell the BSA's to help fund the rest of the tat purchase and put some pennies in the pot for the SpridJET and Goddess. Bantam No. 1 It's a 'Super' 250cc C15 Bantam No. 2 Together rear Together front Spare engine of some sort Tanks and tinwork Apart from the Panther the most exiciting find of the day. There are three icons (IMHO) of monolithic British brutalist 50's design which are the Dunhill lighter, the Green Goddess and the British Seagull outboard and what did we find? Old skool Panther crash hat Bits 'n Bobs Fuel can Completely unrelated wheels and tyres There is at least another horsebox load still down there including 3 mopeds, two other bike frames with wheels including a Featherbed. There's a stash of engine parts, tools, boxes of nuts and bolts and other stuff to be discovered. I can't wait to get down there one night next week except the observant of you may have noticed bits of wooden furniture in some of the pics. Yep, I've taken over SWMBO's shabby chic furniture area and to a certain extent she's not aware of how much I've got in there. Another horsebox load should have me sleeping in the spare room. Exciting times
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Top shopping!
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not that you need my approval but i very much approve
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whip it, into shape ........ go forward
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Apr 10, 2016 14:52:20 GMT
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You are a brave man Ian!
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Apr 10, 2016 22:04:41 GMT
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Great work i would have defiantly taken more than that!
The orange NVT easy Rider in the second pic and the Mobylette behind the fridge in the 4th pic, would be defiantly in my van! but then I am a fan of mopeds. Behind the Mobylette there looks to be an interesting girder forked bike in the pile of stuff, I'd probably be taking that too.... Girder forks are always good, brookhouse corgi to Scott super squirrel!
The engine reminds me of the NSU quickly engine but it's crank case is an odd pointed shape,
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Apr 11, 2016 15:15:22 GMT
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Top shopping! George, not often I get it right not that you need my approval but i very much approve It does mean very much to me Phil, you are obviously one of those types that spells 'brave' differently like S-T-U-P-I-D Great work i would have defiantly taken more than that! The orange NVT easy Rider in the second pic and the Mobylette behind the fridge in the 4th pic, would be defiantly in my van! but then I am a fan of mopeds. Behind the Mobylette there looks to be an interesting girder forked bike in the pile of stuff, I'd probably be taking that too.... Girder forks are always good, brookhouse corgi to Scott super squirrel! The engine reminds me of the NSU quickly engine but it's crank case is an odd pointed shape, Fuldatramp, we're going back for the rest. I think the engine is a Villiers 49cc as I have some paperwork for one amongst the buff logbooks.
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Apr 12, 2016 12:50:31 GMT
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Please be careful not to upset some of the Harley types with comments about Springer forks, especially since yours are girder forks. Hat, coat, exit stage left. Ttfn Glenn
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Apr 13, 2016 11:22:55 GMT
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Great stuff.
I'd be interested in the speedo drive on the wheel shown in the picture if you are selling.
Cheers.
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Apr 13, 2016 12:10:17 GMT
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what a cracking find! You should be able to raise at least a handful of pennies from that lot In fact, I'll send you a PM.
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