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Aug 16, 2016 15:29:17 GMT
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Ok, I'm back again aha I just can't make decisions I always over analyse everything. Anyway ive been looking allot recently and there's so much to choose from it's untrue. I may have a shot at an e30 touring but it's a 2.5 and being 20 I doubt I'd get insurance on it. Anyway Id say max budget now would 2k I just want to ditch my boring mk6 fiesta aha. What I'm looking for Fun to drive Rwd Daily Be able to do some mods in future lower it etc I was looking at Volvo 340s aswell but they seem to be quite rare now in 3 door and allot harder to find. Can anyone help before I go nuts lol and drive my self crazy trying to decide. Cheers
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qwerty
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Aug 16, 2016 15:43:08 GMT
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Sierra, Volvo 740 or 940, Omega V6, basically any BMW, Mazda MX5, MGF?
Tom
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Last Edit: Aug 16, 2016 15:44:10 GMT by qwerty
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Aug 16, 2016 15:46:49 GMT
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If you want a two seater soft top I would say a MG F or MG TF. They're mid engined and fast.
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1975 Triumph Spitfire 1500
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Aug 16, 2016 15:51:00 GMT
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my mate just turned 21 and he has a e46 325 bmw, was about £1500 to insure but to be fair that isn't too bad for our age. woogie95 has got a 318 e30 wagon and it's about £800 with mods to insure
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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Aug 16, 2016 17:26:14 GMT
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Add rust free to your list of requirements. Why just RWD as there are plenty of FWD cars that are enjoyable to drive that would extend your choice massively. It's not because you want something to "drift" is it (hope not). Saab could be a manufacturer to consider as often regarded as boring but can be fun to drive - something like a 900 Turbo ? Then there is Merc 190, Vauxhall Senator / Omega, Reliant Scimitar (as long as good chassis), Ford Scorpio, Jag X type 4x4,
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Aug 16, 2016 17:44:05 GMT
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Add rust free to your list of requirements. Why just RWD as there are plenty of FWD cars that are enjoyable to drive that would extend your choice massively. It's not because you want something to "drift" is it (hope not). Saab could be a manufacturer to consider as often regarded as boring but can be fun to drive - something like a 900 Turbo ? Then there is Merc 190, Vauxhall Senator / Omega, Reliant Scimitar (as long as good chassis), Ford Scorpio, Jag X type 4x4, nothing wrong with drifting and i think most those cars would probably be out of his price range insurance wise =(
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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BT
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Aug 16, 2016 17:52:35 GMT
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Fun to drive RWD daily.
Mx5? Had one years ago, every drive was an event, full of character I think, many tuning prospects, some what of a cult like following so loads of info and resources online. My cousin am has recently bought one and he is about 19 I think.
An E30 touring may be more reasonable to insure than you first imagine. Phone up and enquire about a classic policy. I ran an incredibly highly modified (16V engine conversion amung other things) 1967 Mini Cooper in my teens for less than £500 on a classic policy.
For what reasons are you specifying RWD only? Purely out of interest.
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Good call on the 190, I'd have loved one of those!
Sierras whilst the prices are still moderately affordable? XJS, do they fall within budget?
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Last Edit: Aug 16, 2016 17:54:12 GMT by BT
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Aug 16, 2016 17:54:35 GMT
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Probably best if you do clarify if you're specifying RWD mainly for occasional drift?
That might help eliminate out some RWD vehicles that aren't so suited to that type of activity.
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Aug 16, 2016 18:05:03 GMT
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nothing wrong with drifting and i think most those cars would probably be out of his price range insurance wise =( "Old mans" cars can sometimes be cheaper to insure than much smaller engine capacity, and less powerful, small hatches. Nothing wrong with drifting as long as it's on private land (not roads or public car parks) and organised events with proper insurance cover. However do the same anywhere else and driving licence is at risk as police regard it as dangerous driving.
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Aug 16, 2016 18:06:48 GMT
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nothing wrong with drifting and i think most those cars would probably be out of his price range insurance wise =( "Old mans" cars can sometimes be cheaper to insure than much smaller engine capacity, and less powerful, small hatches. Nothing wrong with drifting as long as it's on private land (not roads or public car parks) and organised events with proper insurance cover. However do the same anywhere else and driving licence is at risk as police regard it as dangerous driving. sadly no one wants to touch anyone under 21 with anything massively powerful =(
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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Aug 16, 2016 18:23:42 GMT
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Probably not 'boxy' enough for you but to throw in a wildcard; Ford Probe2.0i is insurance group 31 (The one to have) 2.5i V6 24 valve is insurance group 33 Pro's: They were never around in huge numbers but have been getting steadily scarcer. They're quite a handsome car, (imho). They go for very reasonable money. I'd assume spares availability / affordability is OK. I've seen someone putting turbochargers in one & a big V8 in another, (I've wondered if it might be possible to put the Scorpio Ultima 2.9 litre 24 valve Cosworth unit into a Probe?) Seen a few in various motorsports. Can drift. Con's: It's a Ford. Don't expect Toyota build quality or reliability. They never really seemed to capture people's imagination so haven't become cult, (they were intended to replace the Capri in the Ford line-up). Insurance group 31/33. Fuel economy 34/28 mpg, (less if you're belting).
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Last Edit: Aug 16, 2016 18:25:33 GMT by MkX
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Aug 16, 2016 19:37:38 GMT
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Get a Dolomite or Toledo, job done!
Affordable, come in a range of engine sizes from 1300 to 2 litre and will accept a wide range of more modern power units when your insurance gets a bit cheaper, good parts backup and a thriving owners club, plenty of character, definitely elegible for classic insurance. Only the Sprint is probably outside your budget (in roadworthy condition) What are you waiting for?
Steve
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VIP
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Aug 16, 2016 19:41:37 GMT
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Probably not 'boxy' enough for you but to throw in a wildcard; Ford Probe2.0i is insurance group 31 (The one to have) 2.5i V6 24 valve is insurance group 33 Pro's: They were never around in huge numbers but have been getting steadily scarcer. They're quite a handsome car, (imho). They go for very reasonable money. I'd assume spares availability / affordability is OK. I've seen someone putting turbochargers in one & a big V8 in another, (I've wondered if it might be possible to put the Scorpio Ultima 2.9 litre 24 valve Cosworth unit into a Probe?) Seen a few in various motorsports. Can drift. Con's: It's a Ford. Don't expect Toyota build quality or reliability. They never really seemed to capture people's imagination so haven't become cult, (they were intended to replace the Capri in the Ford line-up). Insurance group 31/33. Fuel economy 34/28 mpg, (less if you're belting). Front wheel drive.
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Aug 16, 2016 20:20:09 GMT
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Oops! I've seen RWD 'drift' Probes online but some very recent Googling shows these to be specialist conversions, (there seem to be a few about). Probably best to forget a Probe then unless you want a ton of work.
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Aug 16, 2016 21:56:00 GMT
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No not a drift missile not going to batter it I was going to mod it and make it look nice. Occasional bit of sideways action . I may have found a 340 about an hour from me I'm going to message him tommorow.
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Aug 16, 2016 21:57:31 GMT
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Get a Dolomite or Toledo, job done! Affordable, come in a range of engine sizes from 1300 to 2 litre and will accept a wide range of more modern power units when your insurance gets a bit cheaper, good parts backup and a thriving owners club, plenty of character, definitely elegible for classic insurance. Only the Sprint is probably outside your budget (in roadworthy condition) What are you waiting for? Steve The Dolomite hadn't even crossed my mind but I think would tick most of your boxes; 'Boxy'. RWD (I'm reasonably sure this time ) Character in spades. Very decent performance & handling for their day & still no slouch. As carledo says they hold their price but you should get something OK for £2K which can be improved over time. Watch out for tin worm! I noticed a cheap slightly scruffy one on Gumtree recently but it was auto. Toledo, I've got a soft spot for them. The 2 door models are best. Prices are more affordable than Dolomite but it's a more basic car and I haven't seen a sound one in donkeys years, unfortunately they're usually rustbuckets and prices are going up. Examples roughly in your price range; A Sprint in all but name. Dolomite 2LClean looking Dolomite 1500 with lots of work done. Dolomite 1500
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Last Edit: Aug 17, 2016 17:43:43 GMT by MkX
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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Aug 17, 2016 11:45:22 GMT
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That sprint is gorgeous
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ChasR
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Aug 17, 2016 13:54:21 GMT
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This thread is a simple one, depending on the guy's budget: MX-5. Simple . £2k should get you something reasonable with searching around. They are built like a tank and just go on and on and on. The Dolly is a good shout but they rust terribly, even by MX-5 standards, and decent quality bits (bushes for example) that last more than 5 minutes are not cheap to buy, but not ridiculous either (SuperFlex for example). That and the MX-5 is more of a rewarding drive than the Dolly, where most I have been in suffer from super soft suspension (including the Sprint) and numb steering feel. TBH I've never liked the 1500 engine either ; if you plan on doing motorway work, make sure the O/D works unless you fancy changing big ends on it and they are not the best revver shall we say., the 1850 is not too bad though. E30 is not a bad shout but getting one for £2k that is not a rotbox may be tricky, but they do pop up. S12 Nissan Silvias may be worth considering. I guess we all need to know how many miles do you plan to do?
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Aug 17, 2016 16:49:20 GMT
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I do about 8k miles usually a year so not that much, bits of motorway driving but not a whole lot
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