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Most of you will have probably noticed the changes in the For Sale section.
Hopefully the new format will make things a little easier in the long run when placing an ad or looking for a cool new car. Unfortunately there's no easy way of migrating all the old ads into the newer section, so just the more recent ones have been moved to get things going. If you happen to have a current advert in the 'archived' section which you'd like shuffled into the new age-related area please use the 'report' button in the thread and we'll try and sort it. Equally if your ad has been moved to the wrong section, let us know.
Thanks people!
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Dez
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Can you explain how the year 1985 was decided as the category break?
Seems an odd year to choose to me.
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The line has to be drawn somewhere and nothing seemed to work exactly right unless we had loads of categories (if we had 5-year splits for instance). It's really about the 1995 cut-off. Obviously there isn't a point where things are suddenly interesting, but the post '95 cars are prolific and often in banger territory whereas the pre-95 cars are often survivors or recognised 'retros'. It's really about keeping the 2000 Vectras away from the 1990 Prairies!
Realistically we should have 'Chrome Bumper','Carb to OBD1' and 'OBD2 to Y reg' sections, but I wouldn't want to moderate that! :-)
I'm still willing to change things but wanted to get something done as a starting point.
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2017 19:55:10 GMT by rmad
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Dez
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Yeah i understand. I still think '85 cuts the 'core' boxy shape cars section in half though. Personally I'd have split it at tax exempt for the earliest class, calling those 'proper classics'. Is that still rolling at the mo? So 1976-ish.
Then the next category covering then up til 1989/90. This would cover all 80s boxyness in one hit.
Then the next category 1990-FIN. Most stuff in this category would be more bubble shape but still appropriately old.
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Importantly, what the new sections have done is taken away the 'is it interesting?' element that makes moderating really hard. There had been a few hard-to-call cases recently that prompted the latest re-jig.
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Pre 85 should say pre 86 according to the pendent in me.
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taurus
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I think the new system is a vast improvement. Much prefer it.
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Pre 85 should say pre 86 according to the pendent in me. Changed. It's amazing how complicated simplifying the section became when I actually went to implement it! 1995 - Y reg 1985 - 1995 Pre 1995 That's what I had in mind...and that's what it is - except it now looks far more random in an effort to avoid 1985 and 1995 being eligible for more than one category. Fingers crossed it all works out.
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Are you going to allow cars to get old and enter the RR fold yearly? Sticking at Y reg, as it's been for a few years means 51 and newer cars aren't welcome, when cars of that age were previously......
It's a bit like seeing the Beatles as modern because you're 100 years old.
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Lacy
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Love the changes......Great work rmad!
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2007 Porsche 987 Boxster S 'Percy' 1994 Landrover 300tdi 90 CSW 'Connie' 2001 Buell M2 'Bertie' 1976 Kawasaki Z1000 A1 'Nobby' ....and my wife has some nondescript modern box of some sort
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mylittletony
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It doesn't work quite as well on the mobile as you can't see which section has new ads, but that just means more time browsing!
If it removes the hassle of "is this interesting or not?" then it's worth it!
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Are you going to allow cars to get old and enter the RR fold yearly? Sticking at Y reg, as it's been for a few years means 51 and newer cars aren't welcome, when cars of that age were previously...... It's a bit like seeing the Beatles as modern because you're 100 years old. There's no plans to make it a rolling limit. That said, it's the prevalence of 'interesting' post 95 cars that prompted the changes. It's never been the intention of the RR For Sale section to provide cheap everyday cars...it's just been a side effect. Allowing 02 (etc) cars would massively increase the 'banger' content without adding much of 'interest'. When that changes significantly, so might the cut-off.
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VIP
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Where do I put a 1985 car?
One section is pre-1985, and the other is 1986 to 1995?
Both of those rule out 1985 cars.
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VIP
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Also, I'd change the 'Y-reg' to 'Prefix Y-Reg' or '2001 Y-reg' otherwise less clever people will confuse it with the 1983 suffix Y-reg.
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taurus
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Where do I put a 1985 car? One section is pre-1985, and the other is 1986 to 1995? Both of those rule out 1985 cars. The up to 1985 section says - cars registered in 1985 or before. So a 1985 car goes there.
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VIP
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Where do I put a 1985 car? One section is pre-1985, and the other is 1986 to 1995? Both of those rule out 1985 cars. The up to 1985 section says - cars registered in 1985 or before. So a 1985 car goes there. The header doesn't say 'up to 1985' though, it says 'Pre-1985'.
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taurus
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I agree the header says 'pre-1985', but underneath that it says anything registered before and in 1985 gets in that section.
So anything registered in 1985 clearly goes in that section.
To be semantically accurate the header should read pre-1986 but I guess it's like my car - registered on 1/1/72, built in 1971. So is it a '71 or a '72? How on earth did the original buyer register it on New Year's Day?
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Sorry didn't realise this was here so posted thanks on the general board,new for sale update is fantastic, top work simon
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Also, I'd change the 'Y-reg' to 'Prefix Y-Reg' or '2001 Y-reg' otherwise less clever people will confuse it with the 1983 suffix Y-reg. I've changed the pre-85 section title to '1985 and older', which should solve that issue. I'm very reluctant to add '2001' to the title as it will know doubt cause me more hassle than the unlikely event of someone adding a 1983 car to the section.
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I dislike the change, and I'm still disappointed we can't advertise cars that are 15 year+ old. You can, on Autotrader, or Pistonheads, or ebay, somewhere with an appropriate audience.
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